Cubs Cry Foul

[ReasonablySober]

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You wouldn't be happy about it either. That being said, the Cubs aren't making a big deal about this, neither was the paper, but the Brewer fans sure like to read a lot into this comment.

Regardless, how did the Brewers do last night against that rookie?

Well they were leading when the rook was removed from the game...then we were Yosted.

[Ruben Douglas]

As I posted on their board, anything that gets their players minds off their own game is a good thing. Let them get distracted. And it sure sounds as if they are already coming up with an excuse for choking away the division.

You would think a $30+ million payroll advantage would be enough for them. And it's a good excuse of our own if we don't win the division.

The Cubs didn't lose an 8.5 game lead.

[Ruben Douglas]

Your manager makes more than our entire infield makes (which includes this years MVP, ROY and another all-star). We are overachieving just by being in the race this late in the season. There is no way a team with so much high priced talent can lose out to a small market cheap team, right?

I love the money excuse. Everyone knows that a team can spend money and still suck, look at the Orioles. And the Brewers big off-season signing hasn't been very impressive either. I think everyone will agree that the Cubs didn't spend their money very wisely. A large portion of their spending was used to keep their own player, A-Ram. Lilly and DeRosa have been good signings, both have played better than I expected but still are vastly overpaid. And as much as I love Soriano, he has underperformed all year. Regardless, their payroll was around $100 million at the start of the season.

I can't fault the Brewers for doing it the right way, unfortunately, had they signed a manager such as Pinella, they would be running away with this division.

In about 3 years we will see what the Brewers decide to really do with their payroll with all their rookies up for arbitration and free agency. $70 million won't cut it with this talent.

[Ruben Douglas]

Brewer Fans,

You do realize that when your Stud players and I will admit you have great players become Free Agents you will have to pay the money or lose them.

Just because Braun, Prince, Etc. don't make a lot doesn't mean they aren't worth it......

Edit: When your players become free agents you will have to sign them to larger contract thus expanding your payroll. If you don't want to spend the money then you will lose them and keep your small payroll.

Prince, Braun, Hart, and Etc. may be playing with smaller contracts but in reality they aren't making what they earn. That's why you can have an team equal to the Cubs with a smaller payroll.

Why should we be punished for spending money to win??

Have fun in the future trying to keep your stud without spending money.

Well put.

[schweig]

So now you're complaining about good drafting? And you have to look 3-4 years into the future to get a dig in?

[schweig]

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The Cubs didn't lose an 8.5 game lead.

The Brewers didn't stay on a 114-win pace either. Somehow I can still live with myself.

[GYBE]

All right, so how do the Cubs fans here see their last 9 games going? It's hard to see them losing any more than 3 games, and it's really hard to see the Brewers going 8-3 over the same stretch.

I can easily see us losing more than 3 games. First, we only have a .523 winning percentage for the year. Secondly, we face an abundance of lefties who we haven't hit all year. Thirdly, we have terrible records so far against these terrible teams. I'd say it's 60/40 slightly in the Cubs favour right now.

Lilly and DeRosa have been good signings, both have played better than I expected but still are vastly overpaid.

DeRosa makes 4 million a year, plays every position on the diamond, has played in virtually every game and gotten on base all year. And there's no way Lilly is "vastly overpaid" in today's pitcher market. He's been our most dependable starter.

[livestrong4ever]

Only reason why brewers dont and lost their 8.5 game lead is because the cubs sucked in april and early may. and then turned it on. serisoully i never thought we would have that lead in sepetember.

[Ruben Douglas]

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DeRosa makes 4 million a year, plays every position on the diamond, has played in virtually every game and gotten on base all year. And there's no way Lilly is "vastly overpaid" in today's pitcher market. He's been our most dependable starter.

My mistake on DeRosa, I thought he was making more. As far as Lilly, I still think he's overpaid.

[trwi7]

As far as Lilly, I still think he's overpaid.

He's left handed, has an ERA under 4 and signed for an average of $10 million.

[Ruben Douglas]

So now you're complaining about good drafting? And you have to look 3-4 years into the future to get a dig in?

Nobody was complaining about good drafting. I said the Brewers did it the right way, instead of bringing in talent they grew talent. The Brewers fans should take that as a compliment. It means that you have a $75 million dollar payroll that is worth $100 million.

I know it's really complicated but I know that if you think about it long enough you might just figure it out.

[Ruben Douglas]

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He's left handed, has an ERA under 4 and signed for an average of $10 million.

Well, I guess if I just compare him to Suppan then he probably isn't overpaid.

I'm not just looking at 1 season here, I don't think he can keep this up and it will bite the Cubs in the ass down the road. That is why I think he is overpaid. I love what he's done for the Cubs and if by the grace of God he can keep this up then I'll be more than happy to eat my own words.