2021 Draft Thread

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

I'm clearly behind, but why are some of you hating on Bouknight? Is it his poor 3 pt %? Lack of passing ability/willingness? Maybe our oversaturation at the 2 position? I do see an athletic player who can score in bunches and can get it defensively when he puts in the effort (At least, I'm sure Green and our defensive schemes will help untap that potential in him).

he's an undersized, ISO/shoot-first 2 guard with a terrible assist rate for his usage who doesn't really play much defense...the archetype is usually relegated to being bench scorers (like a Jordan Clarkson) in today's NBA...and...more importantly...how does this guy fit in our ball/player movement scheme? hint: he doesnt.

taking a guy like this in the lotto, especially over guys like Moody, Franz, Johnson, Kuminga, Giddey would be disastrous and more proof that Myers has absolutely no idea what has made the Warriors offense work all these years (see the Wiseman pick, or the Oubre/DLo trades).

he is by far the most overrated archetype in today's NBA...pretty scoring numbers, low impact, and a terrible fit in a system that stresses ball movement and off-ball actions like relocating/slashing/cutting/picking and screen setting.

honestly its hella weird having to explain the Warriors system to Warriors fans over and over again.

Sorry to break the news for you: we’re not selecting anywhere in the top 4 to have a player fulfill those voids. Moody and Wagner are likely boarderline career role players to decent starters, Kuminga is a project who doesn’t fit into the ballclub’s competitive window, JJ’s an even bigger project with a high risk/bust potential, Giddey may be worth a look but he’s only an elite passer aka another project who will take time to develop other areas of his game.

In other words: With where our drafting positions are currently, it’s no surprise some players will lack some elite skills and intangibles. Obviously, if we really don’t see potential NBA-ready prospects who can contribute, either trade out to other teams who see value for them or pick your available poisons.

[Bizzy_Bee]

Ill give my rankings from 7 to 14
7.Bouknight
8.Wagner
9. Sengun
10. Kai
11. Moody
12. Jalen johnson
13. Mitchell
14. Kispert

Giddey at 6? If so good on you


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[weekend_warrior]

To have a player like Bouknight surely isn't a problem. But the point here is that we already have one in Poole. Same height, similar play style, even almost the same age: Poole is just a bit more than a year older. And Poole is a somewhat proven commodity in the league now. There really aren't minutes for both of them.

[mos_def]

Ill give my rankings from 7 to 14
7.Bouknight
8.Wagner
9. Sengun
10. Kai
11. Moody
12. Jalen johnson
13. Mitchell
14. Kispert

Giddey at 6? If so good on you


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Giddey isnt in my top 15

[lars_rosenberg]

Beverly is a loser.

Lol!

By your logic, Chris Paul is a loser.

He is.

[Bizzy_Bee]

Bouknight or Mitchell over Franz and im throwin hands with Myers

I see virtually no chance we take Davion Mitchell at either pick.

All he does is push Poole to SG, make our 2nd unit smaller, and completely negate the year of development we’ve put into Nico Mannion and stunt his growth moving forward.

Duarte/Murphy/Kispert types make way more sense from a fit/immediate role player perspective.


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[Bizzy_Bee]

Ill give my rankings from 7 to 14
7.Bouknight
8.Wagner
9. Sengun
10. Kai
11. Moody
12. Jalen johnson
13. Mitchell
14. Kispert

Giddey at 6? If so good on you


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Giddey isnt in my top 15

Blasphemy


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[Mac1958]

With a draft this deep I would have seriously considered the Knicks' offer of 19 and 21 for our 14th pick. Probably would have pulled the trigger. This team needs depth, and 14 wouldn't be a starter anyway.

[clyde21]

I'm clearly behind, but why are some of you hating on Bouknight? Is it his poor 3 pt %? Lack of passing ability/willingness? Maybe our oversaturation at the 2 position? I do see an athletic player who can score in bunches and can get it defensively when he puts in the effort (At least, I'm sure Green and our defensive schemes will help untap that potential in him).

he's an undersized, ISO/shoot-first 2 guard with a terrible assist rate for his usage who doesn't really play much defense...the archetype is usually relegated to being bench scorers (like a Jordan Clarkson) in today's NBA...and...more importantly...how does this guy fit in our ball/player movement scheme? hint: he doesnt.

taking a guy like this in the lotto, especially over guys like Moody, Franz, Johnson, Kuminga, Giddey would be disastrous and more proof that Myers has absolutely no idea what has made the Warriors offense work all these years (see the Wiseman pick, or the Oubre/DLo trades).

he is by far the most overrated archetype in today's NBA...pretty scoring numbers, low impact, and a terrible fit in a system that stresses ball movement and off-ball actions like relocating/slashing/cutting/picking and screen setting.

honestly its hella weird having to explain the Warriors system to Warriors fans over and over again.

Sorry to break the news for you: we’re not selecting anywhere in the top 4 to have a player fulfill those voids. Moody and Wagner are likely boarderline career role players to decent starters, Kuminga is a project who doesn’t fit into the ballclub’s competitive window, JJ’s an even bigger project with a high risk/bust potential, Giddey may be worth a look but he’s only an elite passer aka another project who will take time to develop other areas of his game.

In other words: With where our drafting positions are currently, it’s no surprise some players will lack some elite skills and intangibles. Obviously, if we really don’t see potential NBA-ready prospects who can contribute, either trade out to other teams who see value for them or pick your available poisons.

u addressed nothing in my post and made no good points of your own

congrats on a terrible post.

[WarFan]

With a draft this deep I would have seriously considered the Knicks' offer of 19 and 21 for our 14th pick. Probably would have pulled the trigger. This team needs depth, and 14 wouldn't be a starter anyway.

The offer is probably gonna still be there on draft night. No reason to take it early before seeing who is available.

[weekend_warrior]

A bit off-topic but maybe interesting for our draft ambitions: I am following the live ticker of the Olympics a bit, Mannion seemingly playing quite well for Italy against Australia. (At the time of this post he's leading Italy in points and assists with 13/4).

Don't want to put too much into this, but if he keeps doing well, he might earn a bigger role with GSW next season. Also he has quite good chemistry with Poole.

More motivation to draft wings or even a big instead of a guard / ball handler ?!

[Coxy]

A bit off-topic but maybe interesting for our draft ambitions: I am following the live ticker of the Olympics a bit, Mannion seemingly playing quite well for Italy against Australia. (At the time of this post he's leading Italy in points and assists with 13/4).

Don't want to put too much into this, but if he keeps doing well, he might earn a bigger role with GSW next season. Also he has quite good chemistry with Poole.

More motivation to draft wings or even a big instead of a guard / ball handler ?!

I'm watching as well, Mannion looks average. He's hit some shots, but Niko is a battler, nothing but an end of bench guy.

[weekend_warrior]

A bit off-topic but maybe interesting for our draft ambitions: I am following the live ticker of the Olympics a bit, Mannion seemingly playing quite well for Italy against Australia. (At the time of this post he's leading Italy in points and assists with 13/4).

Don't want to put too much into this, but if he keeps doing well, he might earn a bigger role with GSW next season. Also he has quite good chemistry with Poole.

More motivation to draft wings or even a big instead of a guard / ball handler ?!

I'm watching as well, Mannion looks average. He's hit some shots, but Niko is a battler, nothing but an end of bench guy.

I don't necessarily disagree. I wouldn't expect him to play heavy minutes either. But I see reasons to keep him:

With the starting positions in the back court being quite unquestionable and Poole already there as a likely 6th man type and scoring guard from the PG position, we basically just have room for a 3rd string point guard.

As you said, Mannion battles and can hit open shots. He also moves the ball well, knows the team and should be very cheap.

I would keep him and look to draft players for the forward position (ideally SF).

[DevinVassell]

he's an undersized, ISO/shoot-first 2 guard with a terrible assist rate for his usage who doesn't really play much defense...the archetype is usually relegated to being bench scorers (like a Jordan Clarkson) in today's NBA...and...more importantly...how does this guy fit in our ball/player movement scheme? hint: he doesnt.

taking a guy like this in the lotto, especially over guys like Moody, Franz, Johnson, Kuminga, Giddey would be disastrous and more proof that Myers has absolutely no idea what has made the Warriors offense work all these years (see the Wiseman pick, or the Oubre/DLo trades).

he is by far the most overrated archetype in today's NBA...pretty scoring numbers, low impact, and a terrible fit in a system that stresses ball movement and off-ball actions like relocating/slashing/cutting/picking and screen setting.

honestly its hella weird having to explain the Warriors system to Warriors fans over and over again.

Sorry to break the news for you: we’re not selecting anywhere in the top 4 to have a player fulfill those voids. Moody and Wagner are likely boarderline career role players to decent starters, Kuminga is a project who doesn’t fit into the ballclub’s competitive window, JJ’s an even bigger project with a high risk/bust potential, Giddey may be worth a look but he’s only an elite passer aka another project who will take time to develop other areas of his game.

In other words: With where our drafting positions are currently, it’s no surprise some players will lack some elite skills and intangibles. Obviously, if we really don’t see potential NBA-ready prospects who can contribute, either trade out to other teams who see value for them or pick your available poisons.

u addressed nothing in my post and made no good points of your own

congrats on a terrible post.

So now Bouknight is undersized? Jesus H Christ.... and what is the average NBA height for a sg these days?

and Bouknights off ball movement is one of his strengths... your just making stuff up.

[lars_rosenberg]

A bit off-topic but maybe interesting for our draft ambitions: I am following the live ticker of the Olympics a bit, Mannion seemingly playing quite well for Italy against Australia. (At the time of this post he's leading Italy in points and assists with 13/4).

Don't want to put too much into this, but if he keeps doing well, he might earn a bigger role with GSW next season. Also he has quite good chemistry with Poole.

More motivation to draft wings or even a big instead of a guard / ball handler ?!

I'm watching as well, Mannion looks average. He's hit some shots, but Niko is a battler, nothing but an end of bench guy.

He has ways to go, especially with his 3 point shot, but he's playing very well. Australia is basically an NBA team, so this was a probing test. For the second time in a row he had 7 assists and only 1 turnover. He was also the second best scorer of the game with 21 (Fontecchio had 22).

[Quazza]

I thought Manion was excellent against us.

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

he's an undersized, ISO/shoot-first 2 guard with a terrible assist rate for his usage who doesn't really play much defense...the archetype is usually relegated to being bench scorers (like a Jordan Clarkson) in today's NBA...and...more importantly...how does this guy fit in our ball/player movement scheme? hint: he doesnt.

taking a guy like this in the lotto, especially over guys like Moody, Franz, Johnson, Kuminga, Giddey would be disastrous and more proof that Myers has absolutely no idea what has made the Warriors offense work all these years (see the Wiseman pick, or the Oubre/DLo trades).

he is by far the most overrated archetype in today's NBA...pretty scoring numbers, low impact, and a terrible fit in a system that stresses ball movement and off-ball actions like relocating/slashing/cutting/picking and screen setting.

honestly its hella weird having to explain the Warriors system to Warriors fans over and over again.

Sorry to break the news for you: we’re not selecting anywhere in the top 4 to have a player fulfill those voids. Moody and Wagner are likely boarderline career role players to decent starters, Kuminga is a project who doesn’t fit into the ballclub’s competitive window, JJ’s an even bigger project with a high risk/bust potential, Giddey may be worth a look but he’s only an elite passer aka another project who will take time to develop other areas of his game.

In other words: With where our drafting positions are currently, it’s no surprise some players will lack some elite skills and intangibles. Obviously, if we really don’t see potential NBA-ready prospects who can contribute, either trade out to other teams who see value for them or pick your available poisons.

u addressed nothing in my post and made no good points of your own

congrats on a terrible post.

Likewise, pal. I’ve respected your posts in the past, but lately you’ve have come off as a snobby, arrogant, know-it-all, negative, nitpicking bball posting prick who thinks players who are lacking certain things aren’t deserving of playing for his beloved, sacred team. And everyone’s noticing. Might work in your alternative reality, but doesn’t quite work in everyone’s plain and sane perspective.

Time to get off your high horse, Sir Clyde.

[KevinMcreynolds]

I saw Nico during the parade of nations, his orange afro looked good

[ChuckDurn]

ESPN’s new mock draft this morning has the Warriors taking Wagner at 7 (and Duarte at 14). I don’t recall who they had there before (either Mitchell, Bouknight, or Kuminga), but having Wagner there is a definite change. (Note: they had Bouknight going 6, and the Warriors passing on Kuminga, who they show going 8th.)

And Chad Ford published a note which said the Warriors were looking at Kuminga, Bouknight, and Wagner, but that “there’s a growing consensus “ around Wagner at 7.

He’s who I want, though if Kuminga is there at 7 (i.e. if Bouknight went top 6), I do think we should explore trades. I suspect somebody will want to move up for him, and would offer value.

I have to give credit to the fact that the Warriors have been linked to so many guys at 7 (Mitchell, Moody, Bouknight, Kuminga, Wagner) that I don’t think anybody knows who they really are going after. It’s possible the Warriors aren’t interested in Wagner at 7, but have leaked something in order to try to get somebody to trade up. Everybody thinks the Kings are in love with him at 9, so it wouldn’t be shocking to see the Warriors trying to coerce a trade-up from the Kings, and still get somebody that they’re interested in at 9.

[Jester_]

What's Franz Wagner's upside? AK47?