Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[WargamesX]

Anyone saying oubre, porter and Wiggins or even dinwiddie doesn’t watch basketball spencer is a chucked and inefficient and all those other player just flat out suck with Wiggins being the best of them I’d rather give Lowry 50 million for one year my god..... “ joking” but I feel like I just seen Dolan isiah and Steve mills making trade propositions in here. Awful.

I agree but I would say Oubre is the best because he seems like he would take a one year overpay.

Though if they were to do that for anybody I would want them to do it for Derrick Rose.

[aggo]

Dumwiddie is just taller elfrid.
Stay the f**k away wiidie.

yes a dude that actually put up 20ppg, improved nearly every year he was healthy vs a dude that cant crack 10 ppg is the same



not saying we should sign dinwiddle. but if he can be had for a 1 year deal that is a really really good risk:reward proposition for the team.

[SelbyCobra]

Dumwiddie is just taller elfrid.
Stay the f**k away wiidie.

yes a dude that actually put up 20ppg, improved nearly every year he was healthy vs a dude that cant crack 10 ppg is the same



not saying we should sign dinwiddle. but if he can be had for a 1 year deal that is a really really good risk:reward proposition for the team.

I've agreed with a lot of your recent posts, but any Dinwiddie support at all is a bridge too far for me.

Being completely serious - what exactly is the potential reward portion of a Dinwiddie signing?

The guy is 41% from the field and 31.8% from three for his 7 year NBA career.

The year he blew up and averaged 20 PPG with KD & Kyrie out, he shot...41.5% from the field and 30.8% from three.

He can score points and get to the line, but because he's so inefficient there's nothing about the way he does it that helps this team, in my view. I'd legitimately turn him down on a 1 year $10M deal. If Bullock and Dinwiddie were available on the same contract - high or low - I'd take Bullock every time at this point.

[aggo]

Dumwiddie is just taller elfrid.
Stay the f**k away wiidie.

yes a dude that actually put up 20ppg, improved nearly every year he was healthy vs a dude that cant crack 10 ppg is the same



not saying we should sign dinwiddle. but if he can be had for a 1 year deal that is a really really good risk:reward proposition for the team.

I've agreed with a lot of your recent posts, but any Dinwiddie support at all is a bridge too far for me.

Being completely serious - what exactly is the potential reward portion of a Dinwiddie signing?

The guy is 41% from the field and 31.8% from three for his 7 year NBA career.

The year he blew up and averaged 20 PPG with KD & Kyrie out, he shot...41.5% from the field and 30.8% from three.

He can score points and get to the line, but because he's so inefficient there's nothing about the way he does it that helps this team, in my view. I'd legitimately turn him down on a 1 year $10M deal. If Bullock and Dinwiddie were available on the same contract - high or low - I'd take Bullock every time at this point.

because hes a mercenary at 1yr

if we dont use any long term capspace this offseason there is no reason why we shouldn't give him a tryout. if he over performs we can always sign and trade him to somewhere else


we have 65m in capspace guys. Do you really think Lonzo Ball is gonna be the only move we make?

[Ray Williams]

yes a dude that actually put up 20ppg, improved nearly every year he was healthy vs a dude that cant crack 10 ppg is the same



not saying we should sign dinwiddle. but if he can be had for a 1 year deal that is a really really good risk:reward proposition for the team.

I've agreed with a lot of your recent posts, but any Dinwiddie support at all is a bridge too far for me.

Being completely serious - what exactly is the potential reward portion of a Dinwiddie signing?

The guy is 41% from the field and 31.8% from three for his 7 year NBA career.

The year he blew up and averaged 20 PPG with KD & Kyrie out, he shot...41.5% from the field and 30.8% from three.

He can score points and get to the line, but because he's so inefficient there's nothing about the way he does it that helps this team, in my view. I'd legitimately turn him down on a 1 year $10M deal. If Bullock and Dinwiddie were available on the same contract - high or low - I'd take Bullock every time at this point.

because hes a mercenary at 1yr

if we dont use any long term capspace this offseason there is no reason why we shouldn't give him a tryout. if he over performs we can always sign and trade him to somewhere else


we have 65m in capspace guys. Do you really think Lonzo Ball is gonna be the only move we make?

Dimwittee has shown he’s a horrible shooter, the only difference between him and Payton is Payton shoots way less. He’s a volume shooting Payton.

[HarthorneWingo]

I've agreed with a lot of your recent posts, but any Dinwiddie support at all is a bridge too far for me.

Being completely serious - what exactly is the potential reward portion of a Dinwiddie signing?

The guy is 41% from the field and 31.8% from three for his 7 year NBA career.

The year he blew up and averaged 20 PPG with KD & Kyrie out, he shot...41.5% from the field and 30.8% from three.

He can score points and get to the line, but because he's so inefficient there's nothing about the way he does it that helps this team, in my view. I'd legitimately turn him down on a 1 year $10M deal. If Bullock and Dinwiddie were available on the same contract - high or low - I'd take Bullock every time at this point.

because hes a mercenary at 1yr

if we dont use any long term capspace this offseason there is no reason why we shouldn't give him a tryout. if he over performs we can always sign and trade him to somewhere else


we have 65m in capspace guys. Do you really think Lonzo Ball is gonna be the only move we make?

Dimwittee has shown he’s a horrible shooter, the only difference between him and Payton is Payton shoots way less. He’s a volume shooting Payton.

He was improving each season until last. I'm not saying he's "the guy" but depending on what the other options are, I'd be willing to give him a 1-year deal.

[aggo]

I've agreed with a lot of your recent posts, but any Dinwiddie support at all is a bridge too far for me.

Being completely serious - what exactly is the potential reward portion of a Dinwiddie signing?

The guy is 41% from the field and 31.8% from three for his 7 year NBA career.

The year he blew up and averaged 20 PPG with KD & Kyrie out, he shot...41.5% from the field and 30.8% from three.

He can score points and get to the line, but because he's so inefficient there's nothing about the way he does it that helps this team, in my view. I'd legitimately turn him down on a 1 year $10M deal. If Bullock and Dinwiddie were available on the same contract - high or low - I'd take Bullock every time at this point.

because hes a mercenary at 1yr

if we dont use any long term capspace this offseason there is no reason why we shouldn't give him a tryout. if he over performs we can always sign and trade him to somewhere else


we have 65m in capspace guys. Do you really think Lonzo Ball is gonna be the only move we make?

Dimwittee has shown he’s a horrible shooter, the only difference between him and Payton is Payton shoots way less. He’s a volume shooting Payton.

Elfrid- 0.493% career TS
Dinwiddle- 0.543%
RJ- 0.511%


1yr try out is completely fine since we're dumb enough to sit on our hands and not trade for a star or #1 player.

[KnixinSix]

because hes a mercenary at 1yr

if we dont use any long term capspace this offseason there is no reason why we shouldn't give him a tryout. if he over performs we can always sign and trade him to somewhere else


we have 65m in capspace guys. Do you really think Lonzo Ball is gonna be the only move we make?

Dimwittee has shown he’s a horrible shooter, the only difference between him and Payton is Payton shoots way less. He’s a volume shooting Payton.

Elfrid- 0.493% career TS
Dinwiddle- 0.543%
RJ- 0.511%


1yr try out is completely fine since we're dumb enough to sit on our hands and not trade for a star or #1 player.

I don't love the Dinwiddie option either but to call him Elfrid is pretty ridiculous.

Plain and simple, Elfrid is pretty bottom of the barrell in scoring ability. He was given about as ample of an opportunity as possible under Thibs and he just couldn't rise to the occasion on a nearly consistent enough basis.

Dinwiddie is not super efficient and definitely not a top option for me (though I could live with it IF he is coming with a Star player at Guard or Small Forward and at a reasonable price, shorter term).

[Jimmit79]

Knicks are in bad position all there one year vets will be looking for multiple year deals and Knicks still don't have one superstar to fill from that cap space.

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[DaGawd]

Knicks are in bad position all there one year vets will be looking for multiple year deals and Knicks still don't have one superstar to fill from that cap space.

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Take on bad contracts for assets.. they’re in a position to do this but refuse because they wanna keep cap space open for mythical superstar free agents

[KnixinSix]

Knicks are in bad position all there one year vets will be looking for multiple year deals and Knicks still don't have one superstar to fill from that cap space.

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The big NBA moves haven't happened yet. NBA may be asking teams to hold off until draft day.

But I would be very surprised if we don't hear a ton of trades/movement by Thrusday night (or sooner).

Too much legit chatter on a bunch of stars for nothing to happen.

[FreeSpiritNY]

We need good long term young players. Aka sexton. Someone who just needs a bit of tweaking. If he work out this year then you resign him not you sign and trade his Azz. People who want to trade for the worst defensive player in the nba in Damien is insane. You say well sexton doesn’t pass and is bad at defense. The difference is that sexton is actually a really efficient scorer and young. The only reason why he gets slack is well because his name isn’t Damien. His teams have been pure trash. Sexton is the better defense and more efficient and you g and cost less to get. I don’t want the melo of point guards on the Knicks

[KnixinSix]

Knicks are in bad position all there one year vets will be looking for multiple year deals and Knicks still don't have one superstar to fill from that cap space.

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Take on bad contracts for assets.. they’re in a position to do this but refuse because they wanna keep cap space open for mythical superstar free agents

I get we've been left at the altar a bunch of times.

But this year it feels like we have a bigger shot than most previous years. SO I have hope we finally end up with a high level star player or two.

[TBri1974]

If we are going for one year mercenaries, I might rather have Derozen then Dinwiddie. I do like Dinwiddie, but if we're trying to surround Mitch, Randle and RJ with guys who can hit the outside shot, its neither of these two, and I think Thibs could get an all star years out of Derozen. Neither of them feels like a perfect fit (but I am also not against taking a liar on either or both)

[thebuzzardman]

If we are going for one year mercenaries, I might rather have Derozen then Dinwiddie. I do like Dinwiddie, but if we're trying to surround Mitch, Randle and RJ with guys who can hit the outside shot, its neither of these two, and I think Thibs could get an all star years out of Derozen. Neither of them feels like a perfect fit (but I am also not against taking a liar on either or both)

DeRozan is more a midrange, shot creation into the paint kind of guy, instead of spread the floor.

Some people seem to think there would be no spacing. I don't know. Teams used to be able to score with less spacing but maybe the players are that much more athletic and the defensive schemes that much more advanced.

I guess if the PG was reliable for 3, DeRozan could play alongside RJ and Randle.

Not sure he fits into the Knicks wanting to maintain space for next year.

[8516knicks]

If we are going for one year mercenaries, I might rather have Derozen then Dinwiddie. I do like Dinwiddie, but if we're trying to surround Mitch, Randle and RJ with guys who can hit the outside shot, its neither of these two, and I think Thibs could get an all star years out of Derozen. Neither of them feels like a perfect fit (but I am also not against taking a liar on either or both)

DeRozan is more a midrange, shot creation into the paint kind of guy, instead of spread the floor.

Some people seem to think there would be no spacing. I don't know. Teams used to be able to score with less spacing but maybe the players are that much more athletic and the defensive schemes that much more advanced.

I guess if the PG was reliable for 3, DeRozan could play alongside RJ and Randle.

Not sure he fits into the Knicks wanting to maintain space for next year.

DeRozan might be the best option of a guy who can get his own shot reliably and make it. You still need midrange when the 3s aren't falling. And he might lure a better class of PG to us.

[dukeknicksirish]

man... the pelicans really can overpay for Lowry and have a lineup of: Lowry / NAW / Ingram / Zion / Val

That team is going to be fun to watch


With that being said, Lonzo should be a battle for acquisition between the KNicks and Bulls

[Davis18]

If we are going for one year mercenaries, I might rather have Derozen then Dinwiddie. I do like Dinwiddie, but if we're trying to surround Mitch, Randle and RJ with guys who can hit the outside shot, its neither of these two, and I think Thibs could get an all star years out of Derozen. Neither of them feels like a perfect fit (but I am also not against taking a liar on either or both)

DeRozan is more a midrange, shot creation into the paint kind of guy, instead of spread the floor.

Some people seem to think there would be no spacing. I don't know. Teams used to be able to score with less spacing but maybe the players are that much more athletic and the defensive schemes that much more advanced.

I guess if the PG was reliable for 3, DeRozan could play alongside RJ and Randle.

Not sure he fits into the Knicks wanting to maintain space for next year.

DeRozan might be the best option of a guy who can get his own shot reliably and make it. You still need midrange when the 3s aren't falling. And he might lure a better class of PG to us.

DeRozan is not the star player we are looking for.
But he could be better option than trading for Beal or Lillard.

DeRozan & RJ, IQ, Obi/Mitch + multiple picks
versus
Just Beal or Lillard

[KnixinSix]

If we are going for one year mercenaries, I might rather have Derozen then Dinwiddie. I do like Dinwiddie, but if we're trying to surround Mitch, Randle and RJ with guys who can hit the outside shot, its neither of these two, and I think Thibs could get an all star years out of Derozen. Neither of them feels like a perfect fit (but I am also not against taking a liar on either or both)

DeRozan is more a midrange, shot creation into the paint kind of guy, instead of spread the floor.

Some people seem to think there would be no spacing. I don't know. Teams used to be able to score with less spacing but maybe the players are that much more athletic and the defensive schemes that much more advanced.

I guess if the PG was reliable for 3, DeRozan could play alongside RJ and Randle.

Not sure he fits into the Knicks wanting to maintain space for next year.

Derozan might be a pretty good complement if you get a floor spacing and decent passing PG like Lillard. He would add size to the backcourt too and isn't a horrible defender (not great but not horrible either).

[Bob Ross]

I'm tired of the one year deals. It feels like false hope. If a star wants to cone here, we will make the space - every team does in that situation. Invest in a solid team where guys aren't just playing for their next contract