2021 Draft thread

[Krapinsky]

Wolves need to buy a second round pick and gamble on BJ Boston. maybe aquire second for Okogie?

BJ Boston is so slow footed. Looks like he is playing with ankle weights on. A poor man's Culver if there ever was such a thing.

[shangrila]

Wolves need to buy a second round pick and gamble on BJ Boston. maybe aquire second for Okogie?

BJ Boston is so slow footed. Looks like he is playing with ankle weights on. A poor man's Culver if there ever was such a thing.

He's definitely more smooth than athletic.

I can see a role for him as a shooting specialist. I know his numbers are horrific but he's got good enough form to get me to buy in. And his long arms allow him to disrupt passing lanes, so with some added strength he could be a positive defensively too. He's also not a selfish player from what I can see.

The main concern for me is his finishing. Hoop Math had him at 48% at the rim which is terrible. Maybe some of that improves with experience and added strength but generally I believe finishing is one of those skills a prospect either has or doesn't.

But the larger problem is just where we could develop him, or any similar guys, in the short term? We've still got Nowell who should get minutes, alongside Culver if we want to salvage him. Then Bolmaro is coming over and Okogie is still around, and that's just the bench mob.

[SO_MONEY]

Wolves need to buy a second round pick and gamble on BJ Boston. maybe aquire second for Okogie?

BJ Boston is so slow footed. Looks like he is playing with ankle weights on. A poor man's Culver if there ever was such a thing.

There are just far better options for us all the way through the 2nd.

[Neeva]

I so wish the wolves won the lottery this year Shai and someone like Kuminga would be franchise changing adding to Kat and Ant. Smh wolves should have tanked hard.

[Nick K]

Since we don't have a pick in this 2021 draft I though it might be nice to have at least a 2nd rounder. So after a long day, I thought I'd pop a cold one and take a long trip down memory lane. (bad memories mostly) I've seen every draft like many of you.

Just for fun some notable 2nd rounders. Most all are true immortals. They will all live long in our hearts. (maybe not)

2000, Igor Rakocevic
2001, Loren Woods
2002, Marcus Taylor
2003, Ndudi Ebi 1st rd...Rick (the Garnett punching bag) Rickert
2004, Blake Stepp
2005, Bracey Wright
2006, Craig Smith...Paul Milsap goes 11 picks later. Craig wasn't too bad.
2007, Chris Richard
2008, PEK!! a no-brainer
2009, Nick Colathes
2010, Paolao Prestis
2011, We sold our pick
2012, Robbie Hummell....I kind of liked him
2013, Lorenzo Brown and Bojan Dubljević
2014, Glen Robinson III not bad and we gave up on him right away. We had too much talent I guess. Markel Brown who is he?
2015, Cedi Osman, Rakeem Christmas...trades?
2016, no pick
2017, no pick
2018. Keita Bates-Diop

Complete and total incompetence. Just think if I would have started 1st year! Whew


Who is running this chit show? It still astounds me how we could miss so often.


Rosas has done a extraordinary job compared to the stooges beforehand.

[NebWolvesFan]

Since we don't have a pick in this 2021 draft I though it might be nice to have at least a 2nd rounder. So after a long day, I thought I'd pop a cold one and take a long trip down memory lane. (bad memories mostly) I've seen every draft like many of you.

Just for fun some notable 2nd rounders. Most all are true immortals. They will all live long in our hearts. (maybe not)

2000, Igor Rakocevic
2001, Loren Woods
2002, Marcus Taylor
2003, Ndudi Ebi 1st rd...Rick (the Garnett punching bag) Rickert
2004, Blake Stepp
2005, Bracey Wright
2006, Craig Smith...Paul Milsap goes 11 picks later. Craig wasn't too bad.
2007, Chris Richard
2008, PEK!! a no-brainer
2009, Nick Colathes
2010, Paolao Prestis
2011, We sold our pick
2012, Robbie Hummell....I kind of liked him
2013, Lorenzo Brown and Bojan Dubljević
2014, Glen Robinson III not bad and we gave up on him right away. We had too much talent I guess. Markel Brown who is he?
2015, Cedi Osman, Rakeem Christmas...trades?
2016, no pick
2017, no pick
2018. Keita Bates-Diop

Complete and total incompetence. Just think if I would have started 1st year! Whew


Who is running this chit show? It still astounds me how we could miss so often.


Rosas has done a extraordinary job compared to the stooges beforehand.

The face that Minnesota got practically zero talent in the 2016-2018 drafts have really hurt Minnesota's ability to make trades this summer. Outside of rookies - who you don't wanna trade yet - Minnesota has no young talent to entice teams.

[Krapinsky]

Here are some guys I like who I think will out perform their draft position:

Ziaire Williams -- This one is a gamble; I see him as a swing for the fences pick in the bottom half of the first. I think at worst he is Corey Brewer, but he has more offensive upside. He needs to fill out and get stronger. Will require some patience. Has lots of length, a nice high release and some shake to his game that gives him some upside.

Cam Thomas -- seems like he will be able to carve out a role as a super 6th man with perhaps some upside to one day be a lead scorer on a team if he can improve his playmaking; on the Wolves I would see him as an upgrade over Nowell, though he probably doesn't make sense for us with our current roster construction.

Quentin Grimes -- I see him as a steady starting point guard on a team with a wing facilitator (i.e. playing off a Lebron, Giannis, Kawhi, Cunningham, etc.); he's not a perfect fit for Wolves since we have more of a point guard driven offense.

Joel Ayayi -- I see him as a nice role playing 3 and D guard that can compliment a high volume point guard or wing facilitator. He shoots with ridiculous efficiency on small volume and rebounds well for his positions. Was overshadowed by more flashy players on elite Gonzaga team. He fits the Spurs mold if they weren't already stocked with young wings they still need to develop.

Justin Champagnie -- he very well might go undrafted, but the guy has a nose for the ball like no other in the college game this past season. Guys like him, who make their money with grit over skill, always seems to find a niche somewhere. The Wolves could really use a player like him.

Luke Garza -- another guy that might go undrafted, but I see him as a bench scorer for someone. If Frank Kaminsky and Kelly Olynyk can have ten year careers in the league, then so can this guy.

[Norseman79]

If we end up back end of the first, Isaiah Todd or Day'Ron Sharpe should be the pick

[SO_MONEY]

If we end up back end of the first, Isaiah Todd or Day'Ron Sharpe should be the pick

Todd, Thor, Brown are the early 2nd round targets I think we should look at. McBride (PG) is a guy I really like as well. Sharpe is not a guy I see them considering.

[shangrila]

If we end up back end of the first, Isaiah Todd or Day'Ron Sharpe should be the pick

Todd, Thor, Brown are the early 2nd round targets I think we should look at. McBride (PG) is a guy I really like as well. Sharpe is not a guy I see them considering.

Brown took a serious hit after the combine from what I’ve read. He was way too casual for what amounts to a job interview for these guys.

And I’d rather avoid anyone with motor issues myself.


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[Krapinsky]

If we end up back end of the first, Isaiah Todd or Day'Ron Sharpe should be the pick

Not sure how we'd find minutes for Sharpe

[Krapinsky]

Here are some guys I like who I think will out perform their draft position:

Ziaire Williams -- This one is a gamble; I see him as a swing for the fences pick in the bottom half of the first. I think at worst he is Corey Brewer, but he has more offensive upside. He needs to fill out and get stronger. Will require some patience. Has lots of length, a nice high release and some shake to his game that gives him some upside.

Cam Thomas -- seems like he will be able to carve out a role as a super 6th man with perhaps some upside to one day be a lead scorer on a team if he can improve his playmaking; on the Wolves I would see him as an upgrade over Nowell, though he probably doesn't make sense for us with our current roster construction.

Quentin Grimes -- I see him as a steady starting point guard on a team with a wing facilitator (i.e. playing off a Lebron, Giannis, Kawhi, Cunningham, etc.); he's not a perfect fit for Wolves since we have more of a point guard driven offense.

Joel Ayayi -- I see him as a nice role playing 3 and D guard that can compliment a high volume point guard or wing facilitator. He shoots with ridiculous efficiency on small volume and rebounds well for his positions. Was overshadowed by more flashy players on elite Gonzaga team. He fits the Spurs mold if they weren't already stocked with young wings they still need to develop.

Justin Champagnie -- he very well might go undrafted, but the guy has a nose for the ball like no other in the college game this past season. Guys like him, who make their money with grit over skill, always seems to find a niche somewhere. The Wolves could really use a player like him.

Luke Garza -- another guy that might go undrafted, but I see him as a bench scorer for someone. If Frank Kaminsky and Kelly Olynyk can have ten year careers in the league, then so can this guy.

And here are some guys I think will under perform their draft position.

Jonathan Kuminga -- I think he could fall on draft day and still might very well under perform his draft position. He looks the part in the gym, but what else? Has the occasional highlight but for every highlight there are three or floor bloopers. I think he's the Josh Jackson of this year's draft.

Josh Giddey -- every year there is at least one overhyped euro. He's australian and can dribble well for his height and pass. That'd be something if he could either shoot or hold his own defensively. Unfortunately, he can't do either. I can't see a team willing to give this guy the keys to their offense given his limitations and I think he'll flounder as a roll player.

James Bouknight - he'll be given every opportunity to succeed but I don't see him justifying his high draft stock. He's billed as a scorer but doesn't score at an elite level. He's got a quick release and is shifty enough to get his shot off in traffic, but it doesn't go in at a high enough rate. He's not a play maker and is not going to make anyone better. He's doesn't have a very tight handle. I'm not sure who can defend. I think he probably looks good an empty gym and has a great agent.

[Klomp]

Here are some guys I like who I think will out perform their draft position:

Ziaire Williams -- This one is a gamble; I see him as a swing for the fences pick in the bottom half of the first. I think at worst he is Corey Brewer, but he has more offensive upside. He needs to fill out and get stronger. Will require some patience. Has lots of length, a nice high release and some shake to his game that gives him some upside.

Cam Thomas -- seems like he will be able to carve out a role as a super 6th man with perhaps some upside to one day be a lead scorer on a team if he can improve his playmaking; on the Wolves I would see him as an upgrade over Nowell, though he probably doesn't make sense for us with our current roster construction.

Quentin Grimes -- I see him as a steady starting point guard on a team with a wing facilitator (i.e. playing off a Lebron, Giannis, Kawhi, Cunningham, etc.); he's not a perfect fit for Wolves since we have more of a point guard driven offense.

Joel Ayayi -- I see him as a nice role playing 3 and D guard that can compliment a high volume point guard or wing facilitator. He shoots with ridiculous efficiency on small volume and rebounds well for his positions. Was overshadowed by more flashy players on elite Gonzaga team. He fits the Spurs mold if they weren't already stocked with young wings they still need to develop.

Justin Champagnie -- he very well might go undrafted, but the guy has a nose for the ball like no other in the college game this past season. Guys like him, who make their money with grit over skill, always seems to find a niche somewhere. The Wolves could really use a player like him.

Luke Garza -- another guy that might go undrafted, but I see him as a bench scorer for someone. If Frank Kaminsky and Kelly Olynyk can have ten year careers in the league, then so can this guy.

And here are some guys I think will under perform their draft position.

Jonathan Kuminga -- I think he could fall on draft day and still might very well under perform his draft position. He looks the part in the gym, but what else? Has the occasional highlight but for every highlight there are three or floor bloopers. I think he's the Josh Jackson of this year's draft.

Josh Giddey -- every year there is at least one overhyped euro. He's australian and can dribble well for his height and pass. That'd be something if he could either shoot or hold his own defensively. Unfortunately, he can't do either. I can't see a team willing to give this guy the keys to their offense given his limitations and I think he'll flounder as a roll player.

James Bouknight - he'll be given every opportunity to succeed but I don't see him justifying his high draft stock. He's billed as a scorer but doesn't score at an elite level. He's got a quick release and is shifty enough to get his shot off in traffic, but it doesn't go in at a high enough rate. He's not a play maker and is not going to make anyone better. He's doesn't have a very tight handle. I'm not sure who can defend. I think he probably looks good an empty gym and has a great agent.

Wow I think I'm almost totally opposite you.

[moonpie]

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[Neeva]

Yikes Toronto, if Suggs or Kuminga falls to the warriors i will be beyond pissed.

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[Note30]

That trade is looking worse by the second

Yikes Toronto, if Suggs or Kuminga falls to the warriors i will be beyond pissed.

[moonpie]

Suggs is going to ORL

[karch34]

Suggs is going to ORL

Orlando deserved some luck.

[Neeva]

Poor Jalen, his career will be meh in Orlando.