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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#601 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:50 pm

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Ha! Buzztrodamus predictions that OKC would c*ckblock the Knicks and ruin their draft day/trades coming to fruition.
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Post#602 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:52 pm

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Lmaoo delusion


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Post#603 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:53 pm

Shamet??? I rather draft a rookie for shooting in the 2nd round.
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Post#604 » by aggo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:10 pm

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Oscirus wrote:No idea whats wrong with 17 a game but ok.

Regardless a sf/ sg that can shoot, play defense and doesnt need the ball in his hands to be effective is quite valuable. 10 million is a bargain for such a player. Cant swing for the stars on every signing the knicks make


I'm not giving a 4 year deal to a 3D SF that should be replaceable with a MLE or rookie.

Reggie doesnt playmake and isn't a difference maker on a team that needs scoring and playmaking from the PG SG SF position. Reggie's production is worth way more to a team that already has #1 and #2 pieces where he isn't asked to do anything but camp a 3pt line. His production to Boston or PHI is way way way more valuable than NYK.

this team has no primary ball handler that can create, run the pnr, or playmake

so, yeah, signing Reggie is actually stupid from NYK perspective because it locks up a roster spot and closes off more options for actually getting a pg sg or sf that can be a #1 for the team.




LMFAO Reggie Bullock a 6th man. Ok buddy. 3pt line camper that occasionally runs a 2man game with Randle is our 6th man. hahahahahaha sorry that's just sad/


For Reggie and RJ to start together, the following things would need to happen:

The Knicks get a really elite PG (not happening)
The Knicks get a really really good scoring PG - chance of it happening. Knicks still not a contender
Reggie starts to be able to play some of the the ways RJ plays while maintaining current 3 pt efficiency - not happening
RJ becomes elite 3 level scorer - not happening next year; might happen in another 2 full seasons


It's not that Reggie isn't a good player, of a certain kind. It's not that RJ isn't good or improving. It's that it's not really quite enough shot creation/dribble penetration from the wings and really, not enough scoring, period.

I don't mind Bullocks coming back and is in the rotation, off the bench.

Anyway, It's fun for me to joke around and say "hit the bricks" or "NO WAY" for certain players, either on the Knicks or the Knicks are thinking of getting, but it comes down to just a few things:

Is their price right in that not overpaid, contract not too long, doesn't impact future moves, doesn't impact 2022 FA/trades
How do they fit with the other moves the Knicks make?

And, can't really know the answers until the moves start happening and really, until done.



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Reggie is a fine role player. I know for a fact that hes a winning player on a winning team. His defensive versatility, his 3pt shooting are winning aspects.


but Reggie is not a difference maker on the Knicks because we're not good enough everywhere else for him to have the same value that he can give a team that has legit #1 and #2 scoring options.
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Post#605 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:10 pm

Knicks have resigned Scott Perry and that's all the offseason movement I need to see. Blueprint.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#606 » by aggo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:14 pm

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Ha! Buzztrodamus predictions that OKC would c*ckblock the Knicks and ruin their draft day/trades coming to fruition.



wait so

they first wanted to trade SGA because they dont want to pay him

now

they want to trade for Sexton so they can pay both SGA and sexton?


the ****?
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Post#607 » by aggo » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:15 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks have resigned Scott Perry and that's all the offseason movement I need to see. Blueprint.


im fine with Scott. He deserves praise for trading Porzingis, but infinite Ls for hiring Fizdale

but legit I will blow a gasket if our offseason is Lonzo Ball or Nunn

ill legit become 199999x more insufferable on the boards if its Lonzo Ball or Nunn and 19 + 21 are busts.
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Post#608 » by WargamesX » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:23 pm

aggo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks have resigned Scott Perry and that's all the offseason movement I need to see. Blueprint.


im fine with Scott. He deserves praise for trading Porzingis, but infinite Ls for hiring Fizdale

but legit I will blow a gasket if our offseason is Lonzo Ball or Nunn

ill legit become 199999x more insufferable on the boards if its Lonzo Ball or Nunn and 19 + 21 are busts.


I actually like Nunn for the knicks more than Lonzo. He can create his own offense on-ball better in the half-court, and can work off-ball too. On the low if the knicks are trying to save money grabbing him and Justise Winslow if the Grizzlies wave him might be really good moves.
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Post#609 » by SARGO127 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:24 pm

I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed
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Post#610 » by DowNY » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:35 pm

SARGO127 wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed

You must have bubble guts.
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Post#611 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:38 pm

SARGO127 wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed

That would never happen. Leon has done nothing to make us swing to the negative side.
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Post#612 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:50 pm

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All that being said, I would pay more for a player who can put the ball on the floor a little bit.

Reggie was erased from the playoffs because he's a standstill shooter who needs his offense spoonfed to him.


That probably has a lot more to do with Randle going spastic and Rose being worn down in the playoffs since Reggie played off of them in the regular season. He's not a creator himself, but a good spot up shooter so if your whole ball distribution system disappears in the playoffs it will leave a guy like him hanging out to dry. I wouldn't judge Reggie on this. It was his teammates who were gassed or in fail mode.


That inherently is a flaw of Reggie's though.

Look at someone like Huerter for the Hawks. Just by being able to lightly attack the closeout, he is so much more effective.

Reggie doesn't even provide the type of creation off the dribble that someone like Danny Green has (which is generally making a decision within 3 dribbles of the closeout)


Sure, I agree he is limited on offense, but I do think he is good at what he does. So his production will ride on the coattails of whomever is facilitating at the time. That's why I wouldn't judge his playoffs outside of that context.
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Post#613 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:50 pm

Last word i'll say on the bullock stuff if nothing new develops. Knicks need stability like nobodys business. Only person guaranteed to be on this team by 22 is Randle, that not a good thing
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#614 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:52 pm

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Ha! Buzztrodamus predictions that OKC would c*ckblock the Knicks and ruin their draft day/trades coming to fruition.

Looks like the thunder just relized that collecting draft picks get you jack ****
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Post#615 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:52 pm

aggo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks have resigned Scott Perry and that's all the offseason movement I need to see. Blueprint.


im fine with Scott. He deserves praise for trading Porzingis, but infinite Ls for hiring Fizdale

but legit I will blow a gasket if our offseason is Lonzo Ball or Nunn

ill legit become 199999x more insufferable on the boards if its Lonzo Ball or Nunn and 19 + 21 are busts.


more insufferable than Buzz?

Is that possible?
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Post#616 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:52 pm

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SARGO127 wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed

That would never happen. Leon has done nothing to make us swing to the negative side.

Leon Rose resigned Elfrid Payton last summer, with no back-up point guard to start the season.
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Post#617 » by WargamesX » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:54 pm

I think at 10 Mil per year on a 2 year deal they can move him for a draft pick too if it comes down to it. Ideally they would bring him back plus another potential wing and if they draft one that would create a situation where one can be moved and the team could still function.
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Post#618 » by F N 11 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:55 pm

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SARGO127 wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed

That would never happen. Leon has done nothing to make us swing to the negative side.

Leon Rose resigned Elfrid Payton last summer, with no back-up point guard to start the season.

Now that you reminded me. We passed on my pick Hali. Payton situation was a disaster but there was no one else left on the market lol.
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Post#619 » by Oscirus » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:56 pm

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SARGO127 wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade 19 for Shamet and I’m going to be pissed

That would never happen. Leon has done nothing to make us swing to the negative side.

Leon Rose resigned Elfrid Payton last summer, with no back-up point guard to start the season.

wasnt austin rivers or iq supposed to be the backup last season?
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Post#620 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:58 pm

F N 11 wrote:
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F N 11 wrote:That would never happen. Leon has done nothing to make us swing to the negative side.

Leon Rose resigned Elfrid Payton last summer, with no back-up point guard to start the season.

Now that you reminded me. We passed on my pick Hali. Payton situation was a disaster but there was no one else left on the market lol.

Knicks could've created the market by being more aggressive. I think the Knicks front office followed Perry on that one and underestimated just how aggressively bad Payton was.

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