2021 Draft Thread

[mos_def]

The Golden State Warriors are trying to move up in the draft with Jalen Suggs at their target. Suggs has been most strongly linked with the Toronto Raptors at No. 4 as a clear top-3 has formed in Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley and Jalen Green.

The Warriors could use a package of James Wiseman and the No. 7 pick to move up for Suggs.

Yes, please!

Suggs is my favorite player in the draft.

But we already have Poole

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

The Golden State Warriors are trying to move up in the draft with Jalen Suggs at their target. Suggs has been most strongly linked with the Toronto Raptors at No. 4 as a clear top-3 has formed in Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley and Jalen Green.

The Warriors could use a package of James Wiseman and the No. 7 pick to move up for Suggs.

Yes, please!

Suggs is my favorite player in the draft.

But we already have Poole

Suggs is a PG (Probably can play both at the next level)

The 2nd unit's backcourt of both Suggs and Poole would be something, if Suggs comes into the league as advertised and Poole continues to evolve his game as a reliable backup to Klay, I'd be up for it. I'm just hopeful that Suggs can be seen as the successor to Curry in the next couple years while absorbing his greatness. Rather than us keep looking to FA on the cheap or eventual Curry replacement, or try to find a decent backup PG in the draft until the ballclub really decides to do a hard reset of the team.

[FNQ]

The Golden State Warriors are trying to move up in the draft with Jalen Suggs at their target. Suggs has been most strongly linked with the Toronto Raptors at No. 4 as a clear top-3 has formed in Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley and Jalen Green.

The Warriors could use a package of James Wiseman and the No. 7 pick to move up for Suggs.

Yes, please!

Suggs is my favorite player in the draft.

But we already have Poole

Suggs creates, plays defense (both on-ball and off) and is long enough to play PG or SG.. and because he's a quality on-ball defender, can even play next to Steph and Poole

[weekend_warrior]

What do you think of the other potential SAC trades I mentioned a few posts above? Buddy hield seems to be quite available because his contract is even longer than Wiggins's. Buddy and Barnes I think changes the equation quite a bit.

Hield seems to have regressed over the last 2 years. I also doubt that he will want to come off the bench. Anyways, he's overpaid imo (=negative trade value).
Barnes I just don't really want to see here again. all those shots clunking off the rim when it mattered
But objectively, he's alright. Neutral value in my book.
The package is slightly negative trade value. And the players are what they are, there is no more untapped potential.

The salary difference between Barnes+Hield on one side and Wiggins on the other is still 11.5 million, however. I don't see it as realistic that GSW takes on significantly more salary for not getting back a difference maker.

So the difference could be made up with Wiseman, but that elevates our offer neutral value imo. Kings would need to add, not GSW.

One could also just think of filling up these 11.5 million with any player we could get back for Oubre. Maybe add a pick to that instead and get back something good.

In any case, I don't see a reason to trade for Barnes/Hield tbh.

[mos_def]

Yes, please!

Suggs is my favorite player in the draft.

But we already have Poole

Suggs is a PG (Probably can play both at the next level)

The 2nd unit's backcourt of both Suggs and Poole would be something, if Suggs comes into the league as advertised and Poole continues to evolve his game as a reliable backup to Klay, I'd be up for it. I'm just hopeful that Suggs can be seen as the successor to Curry in the next couple years while absorbing his greatness. Rather than us keep looking to FA on the cheap or eventual Curry replacement, or try to find a decent backup PG in the draft until the ballclub really decides to do a hard reset of the team.

It was a joke.

[mos_def]

Yes, please!

Suggs is my favorite player in the draft.

But we already have Poole

Suggs creates, plays defense (both on-ball and off) and is long enough to play PG or SG.. and because he's a quality on-ball defender, can even play next to Steph and Poole

I know what he is. I woukd do that trade all day long. It was a joke. He isnt that long tho.

[thunderdunk]

Not realistic to think that anyone we draft will necessarily come in and play significant minutes right away. Still think that many on this board are giving up on last year's #2 pick after half a season, with no summer league and no real camp, and the kid is still only 20 this year. The grass is always greener with this year's prospects. Wiggins played really well last year. Poole is starting to look like a quality backup, and maybe even potential future starter. Slow down, take a deep breath. Lots of quality possibilities at 7 and 14, or even later. Should be fun watching the trades this year as teams go on the clock.

[Jester_]

Springer still getting mocked 25-30. Most underrated player by far and easily a top 5-10 talent

[osx28]

What do you think of the other potential SAC trades I mentioned a few posts above? Buddy hield seems to be quite available because his contract is even longer than Wiggins's. Buddy and Barnes I think changes the equation quite a bit.

Hield seems to have regressed over the last 2 years. I also doubt that he will want to come off the bench. Anyways, he's overpaid imo (=negative trade value).
Barnes I just don't really want to see here again. all those shots clunking off the rim when it mattered
But objectively, he's alright. Neutral value in my book.
The package is slightly negative trade value. And the players are what they are, there is no more untapped potential.

The salary difference between Barnes+Hield on one side and Wiggins on the other is still 11.5 million, however. I don't see it as realistic that GSW takes on significantly more salary for not getting back a difference maker.

So the difference could be made up with Wiseman, but that elevates our offer neutral value imo. Kings would need to add, not GSW.

One could also just think of filling up these 11.5 million with any player we could get back for Oubre. Maybe add a pick to that instead and get back something good.

In any case, I don't see a reason to trade for Barnes/Hield tbh.

Fair enough

[FNQ]

But we already have Poole

Suggs creates, plays defense (both on-ball and off) and is long enough to play PG or SG.. and because he's a quality on-ball defender, can even play next to Steph and Poole

I know what he is. I woukd do that trade all day long. It was a joke. He isnt that long tho.

6’6 is long enough to play SG.. can’t remember if it was here or not but someone was calling him a pure PG, can’t play w Steph

[mos_def]

Suggs creates, plays defense (both on-ball and off) and is long enough to play PG or SG.. and because he's a quality on-ball defender, can even play next to Steph and Poole

I know what he is. I woukd do that trade all day long. It was a joke. He isnt that long tho.

6’6 is long enough to play SG.. can’t remember if it was here or not but someone was calling him a pure PG, can’t play w Steph

When you remember who said that then let me know

[Onus]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

[HiRez]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

I thought about that, we should definitely explore it since they were supposedly willing to trade him (but obviously we can't offer anything like the #1 pick). Suggs will be under team control at a low salary longer, which is probably important to this team because of tax implications. But I love SGA, having Steph and him on the same team would be ridiculous. He's right at the perfect point of being able to contribute immediately and consistently, and still having vast amounts of untapped potential.

But, I assume obtaining SGA would cost considerably more than moving up to #4 for Suggs. And if you're emptying the treasure chests maybe it makes more sense to go after someone like Jaylen Brown (who, of course, we don't know is available).

[Quazza]

NO to Wagner(he's a catch and shoot stretch 4/5 which we shouldn't be investing the 7th pick on, if the Kings think he's their SF of the future they're in for a rude awakening), Giddey(being a nice passer is his ONLY NBA attribute and it's not enough, no shooting, no finishing, mediocre ballhandler, no defense, plays slow), Bouknight(usg% 31.6 ast% 12.8 is embarrassing, Collin Sexton was usg% 29.7 ast% 22.6 and Jordan Clarkson was usg% 29.7 ast% 15.3 for comparison).

YES to Kuminga(built like Lebron, he'll be able to come off the bench in the Kelly Oubre role from day 1), Moody(classic 3D wing swingman has enough defensive versatility to come in behind Klay or Wiggins from day 1).

Tell me you haven’t seen Wagner play without telling me you haven’t seen Wagner play.

Or Giddey

[Mob Byers]

Almost 24hrs away

If we keep 7 and 14:
Kuminga or Moody
Giddy or Zaire

These rumors are scrambling my brain, can't wait for the draft to be over!

[Onus]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

I thought about that, we should definitely explore it since they were supposedly willing to trade him (but obviously we can't offer anything like the #1 pick). Suggs will be under team control at a low salary longer, which is probably important to this team because of tax implications. But I love SGA, having Steph and him on the same team would be ridiculous. He's right at the perfect point of being able to contribute immediately and consistently, and still having vast amounts of untapped potential.

But, I assume obtaining SGA would cost considerably more than moving up to #4 for Suggs. And if you're emptying the treasure chests maybe it makes more sense to go after someone like Jaylen Brown (who, of course, we don't know is available).

Brown is probably a more seamless fit but his salary cap means we have to move Wiggins to get him and I like Wiggins enough that it's probably not a big enough upgrade to have to include the war chest.

SGA is only making 5.4m and he'll require a larger salary soon but I'd unload the war chest for him, but we wouldn't have to include Wiggins so that makes our team better. Still probably not the best fit, but SGA is a stud and will be a perennial all star in no time and for a long time.

[FNQ]

Why would we trade up for Suggs? We should be trading for SGA

OKC probably not giving him up without the #1 pick

[KevinMcreynolds]

isn't SGA due a huge contract next year?

[AdonalFoyle4Prez]

Almost 24hrs away

If we keep 7 and 14:
Kuminga or Moody
Giddy or Zaire

These rumors are scrambling my brain, can't wait for the draft to be over!

Everyone off the Trey Murphy train at 14?
And good chance both Giddey and Moody will be gone before 14.

[Mob Byers]

Almost 24hrs away

If we keep 7 and 14:
Kuminga or Moody
Giddy or Zaire

These rumors are scrambling my brain, can't wait for the draft to be over!

Everyone off the Trey Murphy train at 14?
And good chance both Giddey and Moody will be gone before 14.

I think he'd be there if we traded down with Knicks if no one we like is there at 14