2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

Post #1341 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:13 pm

RapsFanInOhio wrote:- Culver for 47 & Hood

There was a trade board discussion a month ago surrounding

Boucher (+Stuff) for Reid and Culver (+Stuff)

Who needs to add what was the primary question;
But that is the sort of deal I would be content to do.

alpngso · Post #1342 » by **alpngso** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:44 pm

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Blood Orange · Post #1343 » by **Blood Orange** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:23 am

I can see this scenario possibly panning out in the coming days...

Moves:
#4 for OKC's #6 and #11
Kyle S/T + Boucher + FRP 2022 for Simmons
Re-sign GTJ
+Draft Kuminga or Barnes @ #6
+Draft Keon Johnson @ #11

FVV / GTJ / OG / Siakam / Simmons
Flynn / Keon / Yuta / Barnes or Kuminga / Birch

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1344 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:51 am

Ivan Drago wrote:I can see this scenario possibly panning out in the coming days...

Moves:
#4 for OKC's #6 and #11
Kyle S/T + Boucher + FRP 2022 for Simmons
Re-sign GTJ
+Draft Kuminga or Barnes @ #6
+Draft Keon Johnson @ #11

FVV / GTJ / OG / Siakam / Simmons
Flynn / Keon / Yuta / Barnes or Kuminga / Birch

OKC has 6, 16, and 18, not 11.

Blood Orange · Post #1345 » by **Blood Orange** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:51 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
Ivan Drago wrote:I can see this scenario possibly panning out in the coming days...

Moves:
#4 for OKC's #6 and #11
Kyle S/T + Boucher + FRP 2022 for Simmons
Re-sign GTJ
+Draft Kuminga or Barnes @ #6
+Draft Keon Johnson @ #11

FVV / GTJ / OG / Siakam / Simmons
Flynn / Keon / Yuta / Barnes or Kuminga / Birch

OKC has 6, 16, and 18, not 11.

Thats if they trade 16 + 18 for 11 from Charlotte

StopitLeo · Post #1346 » by **StopitLeo** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:25 pm

Can we somehow send Fred to Orlando for #5?

Post #1347 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:33 pm

StopitLeo wrote:Can we somehow send Fred to Orlando for #5?

I don't think Orlando is there in terms of their process;
For better or worse they have Fultz and Anthony for the foreseeable future and good bad or otherwise you have Harris on the books as well.

I think they take the BPA @ 5 and run.

alpngso · Post #1348 » by **alpngso** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:42 pm

StopitLeo wrote:Can we somehow send Fred to Orlando for #5?

they might do it for #8

PT416 · Post #1349 » by **PT416** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:37 pm

trade siakam for 7, 14, wiggins and wiseman

start boucher (more efficient and better team player)

draft BPA on every pick. enjoy watching nurse get more out of wiggins and realizing that siakam pretty much = raptors wiggins. realize we got 2 picks and a prospect for pretty much free and moved a disgruntled siakam for an excited to play for his hometown wiggins.

develop BPA (4 - suggs, 7 - kuminga?, 14 - sengun/moody/giddey/johnson/johnson/jones/mitchell)

try to sign Allen or Noel - if not, bring back Birch

have a crazy young core of:
suggs / fred / flynn / trent / og / kuminga / wiggins / yuta / boucher / (14th pick) / Wiseman / Noel.or.Allen.or.Birch /

instant complete rebuild. Suck for 1-2 more years and draft a couple more pieces and then become a problem in the east after Brooklyn fizzles out.

Dr Positivity · Post #1350 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:02 pm

StopitLeo wrote:Can we somehow send Fred to Orlando for #5?

I expect ORL to go full process hence no pick trading

SunBoy · Post #1351 » by **SunBoy** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:12 pm

Where are my rumours at? Daddys hungry!

Mattatron · Post #1352 » by **Mattatron** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 9:15 pm

This franchise will never be the same after this draft. Lowry is gone man..... I can't. Time flies...

Lateral Quicks · Post #1353 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:00 am

I'm intrigued by Barnes. Masai likes position-less basketball and Barnes seems to fit the bill. I still think Suggs is the safer pick, but if you could parlay FVV++ into Barnes and Lowry++ into Simmons, a Suggs/Barnes/OG/Siakam/Simmons lineup would be absolutely nasty defensively. Shooting would be an issue, but that team would run the court for days.

I know, put down the pipe...

Federalies · Post #1354 » by **Federalies** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:12 am

Not sure what this means but I’m going to assume the obvious that the Pelicans are interested in Lowry and now have the $’s to make a decent offer (not sure if that means there’s no sign and trade opportunities but I’d low key ask about Jaxson Hayes and or the #17 pick).

My other take away is…the Raptors don’t leak sh*t!

We live in interesting times my friends! :lol:

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Johnston · Post #1355 » by **Johnston** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:43 am

Bored before draft night, I know everyone loves OG, Myself included but I dont see him being the guy to carry us to the promised land (although he would be a great piece once we get there)

OG+4
For
SGA + 6

Why for Toronto? They get their hometown star who looks like he is in the making of being a top 10 player. Draft either Kuminga or Barnes with the 6th pick to fill the hole OG leaves behind.

FVV/SGA/6Th pick/Pascal/C

Why for OKC? They get an elite young 3+D wing that is on a reasonable contract with experience on a championship team and draft their future PG in Suggs.They also avoid giving a max contract out the SGA

Suggs/Dort/OG/Poku/???

Rapsfan07 · Post #1356 » by **Rapsfan07** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:38 am

Johnston wrote:Bored before draft night, I know everyone loves OG, Myself included but I dont see him being the guy to carry us to the promised land (although he would be a great piece once we get there)

OG+4
For
SGA + 6

Why for Toronto? They get their hometown star who looks like he is in the making of being a top 10 player. Draft either Kuminga or Barnes with the 6th pick to fill the hole OG leaves behind.

FVV/SGA/6Th pick/Pascal/C

Why for OKC? They get an elite young 3+D wing that is on a reasonable contract with experience on a championship team and draft their future PG in Suggs.They also avoid giving a max contract out the SGA

Suggs/Dort/OG/Poku/???

I'm generally against trading a bird in hand for two in the bush and that kinda feels like what's going on here.

We'd be lucky if Barnes or Kuminga turns out to be the guy we're essentially trading for them. Makes no sense for us.

If OKC is willing to do Suggs for SGA straight up, now that's something I'd think about very, very hard.

Johnston · Post #1357 » by **Johnston** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:16 am

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Johnston wrote:Bored before draft night, I know everyone loves OG, Myself included but I dont see him being the guy to carry us to the promised land (although he would be a great piece once we get there)

OG+4
For
SGA + 6

Why for Toronto? They get their hometown star who looks like he is in the making of being a top 10 player. Draft either Kuminga or Barnes with the 6th pick to fill the hole OG leaves behind.

FVV/SGA/6Th pick/Pascal/C

Why for OKC? They get an elite young 3+D wing that is on a reasonable contract with experience on a championship team and draft their future PG in Suggs.They also avoid giving a max contract out the SGA

Suggs/Dort/OG/Poku/???

I'm generally against trading a bird in hand for two in the bush and that kinda feels like what's going on here.

We'd be lucky if Barnes or Kuminga turns out to be the guy we're essentially trading for them. Makes no sense for us.

If OKC is willing to do Suggs for SGA straight up, now that's something I'd think about very, very hard.

I would as well but I dont think they would do SGA for 4. I look at it like SGA has a bit more value then OG swapping picks makes up for that. I love OG but SGA would be a guy to retool around. I think OG is a good player but overrated on our board and will never be a #1 or 2 on offense which is what this team desperately needs.

Butch_Coolidge · Post #1358 » by **Butch_Coolidge** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:22 am

Honestly I can roll with..

Suggs/Fred/OG/Pascal/Holmes
Flynn/Trent/Bembry/Boucher/Birch

I’ll take that over a lot of other teams in the East

murphyslamz · Post #1359 » by **murphyslamz** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:59 am

Kevin Love & #3 pick for Pascal Siakam & lottery protected future 1st

raptoratode · Post #1360 » by **raptoratode** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:55 am

Johnston wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Johnston wrote:Bored before draft night, I know everyone loves OG, Myself included but I dont see him being the guy to carry us to the promised land (although he would be a great piece once we get there)

OG+4
For
SGA + 6

Why for Toronto? They get their hometown star who looks like he is in the making of being a top 10 player. Draft either Kuminga or Barnes with the 6th pick to fill the hole OG leaves behind.

FVV/SGA/6Th pick/Pascal/C

Why for OKC? They get an elite young 3+D wing that is on a reasonable contract with experience on a championship team and draft their future PG in Suggs.They also avoid giving a max contract out the SGA

Suggs/Dort/OG/Poku/???

I'm generally against trading a bird in hand for two in the bush and that kinda feels like what's going on here.

We'd be lucky if Barnes or Kuminga turns out to be the guy we're essentially trading for them. Makes no sense for us.

If OKC is willing to do Suggs for SGA straight up, now that's something I'd think about very, very hard.

I would as well but I dont think they would do SGA for 4. I look at it like SGA has a bit more value then OG swapping picks makes up for that. I love OG but SGA would be a guy to retool around. I think OG is a good player but overrated on our board and will never be a #1 or 2 on offense which is what this team desperately needs.

#4 + GTJ for SGA + #6, would throw in a couple of 2nd rounders if that's what it takes. Take Barnes/Kuminga at 6.

In Free Agency, sign Noel and Birch for 5M ea? Then re-sign Kyle for 25M (we may still be below the tax if we give him 30M)...

Kyle/SGA/OG/Pascal/Noel
FVV/Bembry/Barnes (#6)/Boucher/Birch
Flynn/Watson/Yuta/FG

I'd say we have a pretty good chance defensively against BKN, MIL, PHI