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Post#1221 » by gswhoops » Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:58 pm

KOC saying that Hawks are trying to package Cam/20 to move into the late lottery.

Wouldn’t hate that return for 14
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Post#1222 » by jayu70 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:42 pm

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Post#1223 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 5:50 pm

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That’s also what I would say to get the offers up. But more likely than not that’s what happens.
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Post#1224 » by loserX » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:12 pm

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That’s also what I would say to get the offers up. But more likely than not that’s what happens.


I dunno about that first part. If Team X really wanted Green or Mobley instead, now they're dealing with Houston instead of you. I think leaving your plans up in the air generates more opportunities.

Though I agree that Detroit has seemed fairly locked on Cade from the jump, so taking him and calling it a (good) day looks like the likeliest outcome.
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Post#1225 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:17 pm

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Missed this earlier. Yes please.
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Post#1226 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:02 pm

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Post#1227 » by MadNESS » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:09 pm

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That’s why I think it’ll be Kuzma for DD & then Harrell, 22, KCP for Heild.

Lowry comes for the TMLE? Doubt it but I can dream right

Lowry / Hield / DD / Bron / AD crunch time line up
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Post#1228 » by CallMeKahn » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:13 pm

Nothing specifically new, but still.

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daoneandonly wrote:Utah doesnt have anyhting close value wise to get Dallas to even pick up the phone


Said in reference to Utah's trade assets in a potential Doncic deal.
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Post#1229 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:15 pm

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That’s why I think it’ll be Kuzma for DD & then Harrell, 22, KCP for Heild.

Lowry comes for the TMLE? Doubt it but I can dream right

Lowry / Hield / DD / Bron / AD crunch time line up


He was askign for 3 yr/90M... you're only off by about 70M
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Post#1230 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:18 pm

The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?
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Post#1231 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:19 pm

I've lost count of how many times I've seen various Laker fans on RealGM post about how they can get DD or Lowry for the MLE :lol: it's not gonna happen y'all
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Post#1232 » by Bornstellar » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:20 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


Even if he goes there, BKN is still the favorite, so I don't think he's going to take some super massive paycut to come to LA for a non-guaranteed shot at the chip, especially if there are any other teams offering him 20M+
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Post#1233 » by kalenclayton » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:35 pm

Bornstellar wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


Even if he goes there, BKN is still the favorite, so I don't think he's going to take some super massive paycut to come to LA for a non-guaranteed shot at the chip, especially if there are any other teams offering him 20M+

Are they really the favorite though? AD, LeBron, Buddy, and Derozan is so freaking solid. If there’s even a small possibility that Lowry goes there for a year at a discount, I would think that team rivals the Nets as the most dangerous team (although the Warriors are about to have something to say soon).
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Post#1234 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:47 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


It’s possible. But they would absolutely not be able to keep THT or Caruso. They’d basically be Lebron, AD, Gasol, Hield, DDR, Deng’s stretched contract, and minimum salaries. They’d have about $33m total to split amongst DDR and the remaining 9 players, while remaining under the hard cap. Not very realistic, but it’d be possible.
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Post#1235 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:48 pm

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Post#1236 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:52 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


The direction for Lakers is hard-capped or not hard-capped:

Hard-capped: DDR (SnT), trade #22 for multiple SRPs

Not hard-capped: Hield and Westbrook trades, keep #22

Lakers keep Caruso, THT regardless and lose Schroeder and Kuzma and Harrell regardless.
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Post#1237 » by Resistance » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:55 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


...........................................................Total Outgoing.............................................Maximum Incoming
Formula.................Kyle Kuzma........Gasol........Salary.........Multiply.......Total........Add............Salary........

Outgoing Salary *
125% + $100,000......$13,000,000....$2,692,991..$15,692,991......1.25.....$19,616,239...$100,000.....$19,716,239

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+ $5 Million............$13,000,000....$2,692,991..$15,692,991.................$15,692,991..$5,000,000....$20,692,991
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Post#1238 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:58 pm

More buzz from @WhalersNBACentral

Dallas to go hard for Kawhi, then go hard for Lowry, then do something stupid
Wolves want a PF, other teams want McDaniels in return.
Philly to trade Simmons for a great player or a really good player plus picks or keep him
LA teams and Boston looking at Rubio
Dame and Abbott going at it on twitter like KD and any 12 year old boy.
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Post#1239 » by Resistance » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:01 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:More buzz from @WhalersNBACentral

Dallas to go hard for Kawhi, then go hard for Lowry, then do something stupid
Wolves want a PF, other teams want McDaniels in return.
Philly to trade Simmons for a great player or a really good player plus picks or keep him
LA teams and Boston looking at Rubio
Dame and Abbott going at it on twitter like KD and any 12 year old boy.


Dame and Abbott going at it on twitter like KD and any 12 year old boy.



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Post#1240 » by LightTheBeam » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:02 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:The Lakers can't get Derozan and Hield, can they?

Is DeRozans market that soft?

If the Lakers move KCP/Trez/#22 for Hield

Then traded Kuz/Gasol for DeRozan, what is the max they could pay him in that scenario? Does Demar want a title that bad?


The direction for Lakers is hard-capped or not hard-capped:

Hard-capped: DDR (SnT), trade #22 for multiple SRPs

Not hard-capped: Hield and Westbrook trades, keep #22

Lakers keep Caruso, THT regardless and lose Schroeder and Kuzma and Harrell regardless.


Sounds like the Lakers are offering #22 in the trade for Hield.

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