2021 Draft Thread - Part II

[Ruzious]

I'm really curious who is on Philly's list for the #53 pick they bought from the Pels.

I do not understand why it wasn't the Wizards who bought that pick. Or why we haven't heard an announcement that we bought some other R2 pick.

I am extremely worried about this draft, because -- to me at least -- it offers some kind of insight into how Tommy sees our future. Better say into how accurately he sees it. IOW, if we come away with one guy & then Tommy signs an over-priced short-term veteran, we can conclude that nothing has changed: i.e. that our goal is to get into the playoffs & then hope to get hot & get lucky.

Keep your fingers crossed.

It does seem like a bizarre - to me - move to make before the draft. I can't blame the Wiz - having no idea who's going to be there at 53.

A concur with your trepidations. The reason to be optimistic is that he said he wants to be active in the 2nd round, so at least he's keeping his mind open - which is a lot more than we can say for his predecessor. Will he walk the walk? We will know soon.

[80sballboy]

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yours is a very sound plan.

My idea is to go ahead and trade for somebody like Kevin Love and pay three guys all the money and bring everybody else in on minimum salary.

Four rookies can just as well as some of these veterans who are basically stealing money on these big ass contracts. I will leave in paying market value but you do not necessarily have to pay people like Davis B what they pay them.

In this draft I would pick up as many as four players or even five with an undrafted free agent added in that mix

Trade for Love, sending three players for one in return
Re-sign Robin Lopez
Anybody else that makes the team gets the minimum
Invite guys like Jack Landale and Omari Spellman at any undrafted free agent you choose plus whoever you draft.

I wouldn't hate trading Bryant, Bertans and Hutchison for Love if that is an option. You can let Rui be a 3 and insert Gafford in the starting lineup. Deni could be your 6th man point forward off the bench and #15 could be another wing rotation piece

Love is a hundred years old. He hasn't been a plus player for a few years. Not to mention that we wouldn't be able to absorb his $31m salary.

Cleveland would love that deal, of course. So at least someone would be happy.

96 man maybe not even a day over 87 years old. I know he’s old as ….Methuselah would be the Bible reference

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Kevin love may be fork tender done and that is entirely besides the point.

What I look at is per 36 minute rebound rates and three point field goal percentages. I compare and contrast the latest year with his career

Love is a better three-point shooter now than he has ever been any other time in his career


The one or he still has the same thing big Wes Unseld had when he was fat and old and that is the ability to box out in rebound

Plus the guy is hungry and I feel like he has a whole lot more left than what we think but he might break and be done I’m not sure

[payitforward]

Thinking about the potential trade with the Knicks....

They are probably targeting someone, say Davion Mitchell, & if he is on the board at 15, they trade with us. OTOH, maybe they get nervous & see if they can make the trade with e.g. the Pacers at #13.

If it's one guy, & if the guy is Mitchell, then I think chances of the trade happening are slim.

Here's hoping it's a little group of guys, rather than just Mitchell. In that case, there is some chance we can put together a deal with them.

[FAH1223]

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Damn it

[80sballboy]

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Damn it

If he's right, hopefully they just trade down and not for any player. I'd take 19 and 21 assuming they love a guy at 15 and he's there.

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[Gig18]

Man, if that's for Kuzma, Schroeder and flotsam, I'm going to be dissapointed.
And if that happens, it opens up #15 for a point guard. Shariffe? Mann? oh man

[WallToWall]

Man, if that's for Kuzma, Schroeder and flotsam, I'm going to be dissapointed.
And if that happens, it opens up #15 for a point guard. Shariffe? Mann? oh man

If Wizards can in turn trade them for other players plus picks, then why not?

[likwitdesi]

Man, if that's for Kuzma, Schroeder and flotsam, I'm going to be dissapointed.
And if that happens, it opens up #15 for a point guard. Shariffe? Mann? oh man

If #22 is included and they throw in a 2nd rd pick or two, I wouldn't be mad at it

[PaulinVA]

Man, if that's for Kuzma, Schroeder and flotsam, I'm going to be dissapointed.
And if that happens, it opens up #15 for a point guard. Shariffe? Mann? oh man

If #22 is included and they throw in a 2nd rd pick or two, I wouldn't be mad at it

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[PaulinVA]

Man, if that's for Kuzma, Schroeder and flotsam, I'm going to be dissapointed.
And if that happens, it opens up #15 for a point guard. Shariffe? Mann? oh man

If #22 is included and they throw in a 2nd rd pick or two, I wouldn't be mad at it

You got the 22

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[80sballboy]

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[Dat2U]

Seven Tiers from Franchise caliber to options on a Two-way deal.

Tier One - Da Franchise
1. C Evan Mobley
2. G Jalen Green
3. F Cade Cunningham

Tier Two - Multiple all-star
4. G Jalen Suggs

Tier Three - Solid to above average starter
5. G Josh Giddey
6. F Franz Wagner
7. G Sharife Cooper
8. G James Bouknight
9. G Jaden Springer
10. G Davion Mitchell

Tier Four - average starter to above average role player
11. F Jalen Johnson
12. C Isaiah Jackson
13. F Corey Kispert
14. G Chris Duarte
15. G Jared Butler
16. C Alperen Sengun
17. F F Kai Jones
18. G Keon Johnson
19. F Moses Moody
20. F Scottie Barnes
21. G Cameron Thomas
22. F Usman Garuba

Tier Five - potentially solid role player
23. G Ayo Dosunmu
24. F Trey Murphy III
25. F Ziaire Williams
26. G Tre Mann
27. G Brandon Boston Jr
28. G Miles McBride
29. F JT Thor
30. G Jason Preston
31. F Joe Wiescamp
32. C Day'Ron Sharpe
33. G Joel Ayayi
34. F Isaiah Livers
35. F Hebert Jones
36. F Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
37. G Quentin Grimes

Tier Six - Developmental types with flaws
38. G Joshua Primo
39. F Isaiah Todd
40. F Filip Petrusev
41. F Matthew Hurt
42. G Austin Reaves
43. C Neemias Queta
44. G Josh Christopher
45. G McKinley Wright IV
46. G Nah'Shon Hyland
47. F Kessler Edwards
48. G David Duke
49. C Charles Bassey
50. G David Johnson

Tier 7 - Two ways, G-league, overseas types

51. G Rokas Jokubaitis
52. F Vrenz Bleijenbergh
53. F Justin Champagnie
54. F Aaron Henry
55. F Sam Hauser
56. F Jericho Sims
57. G Daishen Nix
58. G Max Abmas
59. F Luka Garza
60. F Greg Brown
61. F Moses Wright
62. F Aaron Wiggins
63. F Trendon Watford

[Ruzious]

Wondering if Garuba could slide to 22.

[Dat2U]

Thinking about the potential trade with the Knicks....

They are probably targeting someone, say Davion Mitchell, & if he is on the board at 15, they trade with us. OTOH, maybe they get nervous & see if they can make the trade with e.g. the Pacers at #13.

If it's one guy, & if the guy is Mitchell, then I think chances of the trade happening are slim.

Here's hoping it's a little group of guys, rather than just Mitchell. In that case, there is some chance we can put together a deal with them.

Hearing it's Duarte

[Dat2U]

We got the 15 & 22 for the moment.

[gesa2]

I'm really curious who is on Philly's list for the #53 pick they bought from the Pels.

I do not understand why it wasn't the Wizards who bought that pick. Or why we haven't heard an announcement that we bought some other R2 pick.

I am extremely worried about this draft, because -- to me at least -- it offers some kind of insight into how Tommy sees our future. Better say into how accurately he sees it. IOW, if we come away with one guy & then Tommy signs an over-priced short-term veteran, we can conclude that nothing has changed: i.e. that our goal is to get into the playoffs & then hope to get hot & get lucky.

Keep your fingers crossed.

It does seem like a bizarre - to me - move to make before the draft. I can't blame the Wiz - having no idea who's going to be there at 53.

A concur with your trepidations. The reason to be optimistic is that he said he wants to be active in the 2nd round, so at least he's keeping his mind open - which is a lot more than we can say for his predecessor. Will he walk the walk? We will know soon.

Tell me if I’m right about this. If the Sixers do a sign and trade putting them in the tax that would put them subject to a hard cap. Late seconds can be offered the absolute lowest salary allowable which helps teams in that situation right? I think the Bucks did this last year. Maybe they have a trade in the works that would make this pick helpful regardless of who’s there.

[doclinkin]

Thinking about the potential trade with the Knicks....

They are probably targeting someone, say Davion Mitchell, & if he is on the board at 15, they trade with us. OTOH, maybe they get nervous & see if they can make the trade with e.g. the Pacers at #13.

If it's one guy, & if the guy is Mitchell, then I think chances of the trade happening are slim.

Here's hoping it's a little group of guys, rather than just Mitchell. In that case, there is some chance we can put together a deal with them.

Hearing it's Duarte

If its for the Knicks picks, with the Lakers pick we would have
19, 21, 22

Wes would get to jumpstart a culture to his own liking. Though if we had KCP/Dinwiddie incoming, there is less developmental room for players like Sharife or Springer.