[Krawczynski] Ricky Rubio for Taurean Price, 2022 second, and cash.

[life_saver]

I am legit confused to see how lopsided the 'Who won the trade' poll on GB is for this trade..almost no one there thinks this is a good trade for Wolves lol.

The General Board does not see subtleties. Rubio is more famous than Prince, but MIN gets a little for the player, the savings, the 2nd, the positional improvement, etc.

The Trade Board likes it for MIN, but are sad for Rubio. I’m with them,

yeah...for me, getting that cash flexibility was pretty important and also Prince is a player who fills (atleast temporarily) one of our biggest positional needs...not to mention that SRP

[Neeva]

I wonder how Ant feels about it.

[shrink]

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So, this made me laugh. Then it made me question it a little.

First, shouldn’t first loyalty be to your team? i get the players are all best friends now, but I much preferred the old days, when players hated certain teams, and anyone who played on them.

Second, did DLo and Prince play in BRK together and become friends? Is this trade more DLo appeasement (Rubio out, Prince in)? I’m sure Ant is disappointed.

[Domejandro]

I kinda like the trade...especially since we are getting a SRP back and also helps in bringing down salary...Rubio was bad last season (especially the first half of ssn)...isn't Prince a PF? Fills the need perfectly and also seems like an average 3 pt shooter. I don't know much about his defense but this seems like a pretty decent trade from Rosas

He's in a similar mold as Covington.

I agree that Covington is the best comparison that we are the most familiar with

He isn't like Robert Covington, though. DeMarre Carroll is a closer (though imperfect) comparison. Robert Covington was a top-tier defensive player, while Taurean Prince is more-so just alright. It's still a good trade, but people should definitely recognize that Taurean is not a defensive monster.

[moonpie]

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So, this made me laugh. Then it made me question it a little.

First, shouldn’t first loyalty be to your team? i get the players are all best friends now, but I much preferred the old days, when players hated certain teams, and anyone who played on them.

Second, did DLo and Prince play in BRK together and become friends? Is this trade more DLo appeasement (Rubio out, Prince in)? I’m sure Ant is disappointed.

Prince came to BKN after DLO was traded, they never played together

[Dewey]

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So, this made me laugh. Then it made me question it a little.

First, shouldn’t first loyalty be to your team? i get the players are all best friends now, but I much preferred the old days, when players hated certain teams, and anyone who played on them.

Second, did DLo and Prince play in BRK together and become friends? Is this trade more DLo appeasement (Rubio out, Prince in)? I’m sure Ant is disappointed.

Interesting …

[LibertyPrime]

I don't love this trade, mostly because of my irrational love for Ricky; not because Prince is a bad player, quite the contrary. I've been scheming ways to get him on the Wolves for a while. He's 3-and-some-D which is great, and big enough to play a little 4. But this team definitely needs a steady hand to guide it, and D'Lo just isn't enough for that.

I'm also sad for Ricky. From possibly playing with the Clippers, Celtics, or Lakers to playing for ..... Cleveland. Well, I'll bet Kevin Love is pleased. Ricky deserves a chance to win a ring before he retires. One more year in purgatory, and then he can do the Michael Finley ring-chasing thing, I guess.

What happens after this is key. If this is the only move we make this evening, I'm going to call it a loss.

[shrink]

Prince came to BKN after DLO was traded, they never played together

I appreciate that!

[Baseline81]

The 2022 second round pick may be used to rid the team of Layman's $3.9M contract for next season.

[_AIJ_]

Seems like Wolves get worse with every trade Rosas makes.

You said you were done couple of seasons ago?

[moonpie]

Just an interesting tidbit - First round picks are almost never sold anymore, whereas in the past you could fetch a late 1st for 3M. That's about how much it took for Philly to buy a pick in the 50s this year

[Dewey]

He's in a similar mold as Covington.

I agree that Covington is the best comparison that we are the most familiar with

He isn't like Robert Covington, though. DeMarre Carroll is a closer (though imperfect) comparison. Robert Covington was a top-tier defensive player, while Taurean Prince is more-so just alright. It's still a good trade, but people should definitely recognize that Taurean is not a defensive monster.

People should recognize Neither is a defensive monster … Covington a little better defender but played alot of SF and Prince mostly PF. Prince shoots better 3pt%, FT% and more assists.

[Foye]

Seems like Wolves get worse with every trade Rosas makes.

You said you were done couple of seasons ago?

I dont need to be a fan to post on here.

Whats next? Watch Rosas blow that tiny little amount of cap space he has just created by overpaying for another teams scrub in Free Agency.

[younggunsmn]

This is an awful trade if you are trying to win basketball games and develop young players.
It makes no sense to me.
Could have cleared roughly the same amount of space under the tax by stretching Culver or Juancho and replacing them with a warm body, without sending out the only real veteran leadership the team had left.

Ricky's leadership. high BBIQ, and knowledge of the game are intangibles this team is going to sorely miss in the coming season, and would have been invaluable far beyond the crap return in this trade not only to Ant but to Bolmaro if he comes over this summer, as is the rumor. In fact I thought it was the primary reason he was brought here. What changed? Did it hurt the feelings of the chronicly injured superbff to get pushed out of his PG spot into a role he was better suited for because we found someone who could defend better than a wet paper towel and actually run a team? I give Ricky a lot of credit for keeping Ant on track when the rest of the team around him was going completely off the rails.

Prince is a very limited replacement level backup SF many of you are trying to miscast as a smallball pf. He does not have the frame or toughness as a crowder or carroll, but he is big enough to defend some of the big 3's. But we are supposed to have Bolmaro for that now.
If Rosas can find a sucker for him and acutally pick up an asset I will be surprised.
But this was a dumb time to make the trade as it doesn't involve any '21 picks, and we won't be able to aggregate Prince's salary in any salary matching for quite a while once its finalized. Would have been smarter to wait until free agency when sign and trades are in play.
Unless groundwork has been laid and some team preferred Prince's salary to Rubio in a trade, chances of which are pretty remote at this point. With Morey asking the Warriors for Wiseman plus 4 1st round picks, I think the chances of SImmons coming here are nearing zero.

[karch34]

Just an interesting tidbit - First round picks are almost never sold anymore, whereas in the past you could fetch a late 1st for 3M. That's about how much it took for Philly to buy a pick in the 50s this year

Yeah. I heard some talking heads saying they think that’s just Morey f-ing with the market. Interesting thought.

[Dewey]

Seems like Wolves get worse with every trade Rosas makes.

You said you were done couple of seasons ago?

I dont need to be a fan to post on here.

Whats next? Watch Rosas blow that tiny little amount of cap space he has just created by overpaying for another teams scrub in Free Agency.

Angry elf… soccer guys know a lot about scrubs

[karch34]

Prince is a very limited replacement level backup SF many of you are trying to miscast as a smallball pf. He does not have the frame or toughness as a crowder or carroll, but he is big enough to defend some of the big 3's. But we are supposed to have Bolmaro for that now.

I don’t think Bolmoro has the bulk for guarding big 3s right now. I could be wrong though.

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[younggunsmn]

Cavs desperately needed a backup PG and just some competent backup guards in general. Prince was a nice enough player for us for a few weeks before our season went into the trash. but we aren't going to contend anytime soon and we have other guys that can do what he can. I don't like how close this potentially puts us to the tax line. Obviously it depends on Allen's new contract and whether we do anything with our backup center Hartenstein.

This was a great move for your team, Ricky is the perfect mentor for your young backcourt and can still run a team.
We all measure players as individuals, but how well they fit into a team game is very important, and Ricky has made his teammates better wherever he has gone and I expect that to continue in Cleveland. Most wolves fans arent even going to remember Taurean Prince's name in 2 or 3 years.

[Howard Cosell]

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