2021 NBA Draft Thread

[spearsy23]

We really had enough assets to draft a combination of Giddey + Bouknight/Moody + Sengun/Garuba...I just don't get it.

What's not to get? Why waste assets on guys that will be middling plays if you can kick the can and have those assets when you need them? It's not like those guys were sure things

In theory yes, but there were multiple sources that had Sengun as one of the better players available in this entire draft. Not saying those are foolproof but I think I'd have rather taken a shot at that dude than passed on him.

I guess, but those multiple sources didn't seem to be nba teams. That doesn't mean they weren't wrong obviously. Also, I think there is a good chance he's one of the top players in the draft but and also not a great prospect.

[bondom34]

We really had enough assets to draft a combination of Giddey + Bouknight/Moody + Sengun/Garuba...I just don't get it.

What's not to get? Why waste assets on guys that will be middling plays if you can kick the can and have those assets when you need them? It's not like those guys were sure things

In theory yes, but there were multiple sources that had Sengun as one of the better players available in this entire draft. Not saying those are foolproof but I think I'd have rather taken a shot at that dude than passed on him.

Counter: History of slow footed bigs who aren't switchable defenders. And if they're bit super high end outcomes.

Of anyone I'm pretty happy they passed on Sengun.

Like if he ends up in the 85th percentile outcome and is a lesser version of Domas? Even that's super hard to build around, like the pacers

[Dadouv47]

We really had enough assets to draft a combination of Giddey + Bouknight/Moody + Sengun/Garuba...I just don't get it.

What's not to get? Why waste assets on guys that will be middling plays if you can kick the can and have those assets when you need them? It's not like those guys were sure things

I just think most of us were expecting a little more, that’s all. But you are right, if you don’t see the value or potential, you push back from the table and hang on to your assets for a future deal. At some point though, they need to start spending a little of that draft capital.

We traded #16 for two heavily protected FRPs. The value is terrible. This draft is pretty deep and some very nice prospects were still left at 16. Maybe Presti didn't like any player in the 10+ range...

[jake_swivel]

I like the giddey pick, but his one on one defense really concerns me. He looked completely outmatched in the clips I was seeing, like rec league vs D1 guys outmatched.

Couldnt look any worse than Poku looked on D.

[Dadouv47]

We have so many guards now...not much playing time for guys like Ty Jerome

[ThunderScot]

Maybe this is Presti's masterplan finally revealing itself: Play a four guard line-up with Poku at Center. Even with Shai on court we will lose a silly amount of games and all our young guys will see significant game time. Fast forward to next draft, we have one of the worst records in the league and nobody can accuse us of intentionally tanking.
Secure our own top 5 pick and trade some of our young guards/Draft assets for another Top 5. Jobs a good 'un!

This GM gig is easy.....

[spearsy23]

What's not to get? Why waste assets on guys that will be middling plays if you can kick the can and have those assets when you need them? It's not like those guys were sure things

I just think most of us were expecting a little more, that’s all. But you are right, if you don’t see the value or potential, you push back from the table and hang on to your assets for a future deal. At some point though, they need to start spending a little of that draft capital.

We traded #16 for two heavily protected FRPs. The value is terrible. This draft is pretty deep and some very nice prospects were still left at 16. Maybe Presti didn't like any player in the 10+ range...

Those aren't really heavily protected considering they run through 2027

[jake_swivel]

Im annoyed and concerned by Houston’s good decision making. The Lavert and Oladipo screw ups really raised my expectations of how dumb they were.

[spearsy23]

I think we're falling into the trap of thinking that picking players whose names we've heard means they've made good decisions.

[Dadouv47]

Im annoyed and concerned by Houston’s good decision making. The Lavert and Oladipo screw ups really raised my expectations of how dumb they were.

Rafael Stone is doing a very good job. They took the gamble on Oladipo and probably Fertitta didn't want to pay Allen.

[spearsy23]

Who are the draft and stash guys this year

[Atomic Punk]

Could be:

1. Kemba trade.

2.Free agency?

3. Other trade?

I kinda did too but nothing I'd be bothered by, off-season just started.

Yep, they could take a flyer on a big in the second as well. Plenty of ways to shore up the front court. Just a little underwhelmed with this, I guess.

FWIW, analytical models were pretty high on Giddey.

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Watched some video of him, ok I can get on board with it. Decent looking jumper, good court vision/passing skills, crafty, not going to out quick anyone but maybe a little more athletic then he gets credit for. Kind of reminds me of Brent Barry

[spearsy23]

Wasn't barry an amazing athlete?

[ThunderScot]

Who are the draft and stash guys this year

The Lithuanian PG, Rokas Jokubaitis. Just signed for Barcelona, I believe. Other than that, maybe Juhann Begarin (French SG). Not too many options that i can see on that front.

[Atomic Punk]

Wasn't barry an amazing athlete?

Yes, I said he kind of reminds me of Bones Barry. Giddy is certainly more athletic than he is being given credit for. I saw someone compare home to Joe Ingles. He is closer to Barry than Ingles I think. Just his overall game, I was reminded of Barry.

[spearsy23]

Presti obviously believes that guys who've lived in foreign countries provide some type of value. I'm assuming he believes it puts us at less of a market disadvantage, but it may be something different

[spearsy23]

Wasn't barry an amazing athlete?

Yes, I said he kind of reminds me of Bones Barry. Giddy is certainly more athletic than he is being given credit for. I saw someone compare home to Joe Ingles. He is closer to Barry than Ingles I think. Just his overall game, I was reminded of Barry.

Idk, I don't see much barry. The jumper is not real good, athleticism is lacking...

I'm getting lonzo ball vibes.

[Atomic Punk]

Wasn't barry an amazing athlete?

Yes, I said he kind of reminds me of Bones Barry. Giddy is certainly more athletic than he is being given credit for. I saw someone compare home to Joe Ingles. He is closer to Barry than Ingles I think. Just his overall game, I was reminded of Barry.

Idk, I don't see much barry. The jumper is not real good, athleticism is lacking...

I'm getting lonzo ball vibes.

Ok, cool.

[spearsy23]

Yes, I said he kind of reminds me of Bones Barry. Giddy is certainly more athletic than he is being given credit for. I saw someone compare home to Joe Ingles. He is closer to Barry than Ingles I think. Just his overall game, I was reminded of Barry.

Idk, I don't see much barry. The jumper is not real good, athleticism is lacking...

I'm getting lonzo ball vibes.

Ok, cool.

Sorry for disagreeing, was hoping maybe you'd point out where you were seeing the barry comp
I just don't get it, since the weaknesses seem to be Barry's strengths and vice versa

[ThunderBolt]

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