2021 Draft Discussion and Pick Tracker

Post #141 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:32 am

Apparently Ziaire basically name dropped the entire FO after the pick so my distant distant hope of this being part of a Suggs deal seems shot. Looks like we've been very interested in him for a while.

Post #142 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:44 am

I'm coming around on the pick as the dude has a ton of potential. He just has a really really long way to go to fully realize that potential. Could have played this better but it is what it is.

Post #143 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:58 am

Even if he becomes a star, I will not like the pick given time and situation. That said, I am rooting for him to succeed. Welcome to the Grizz, young man!

Still upset, but at least it wasn't the Thabeet pick. I immediately threw everything around at my TV.

psman2 · Post #144 » by **psman2** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:58 am

I didn't hate the Williams pick, just taking him over Moody made no sense. I had Williams in 11-15 range. Williams might have been the highest upside pick outside of Sengun at that point. They worked out Moody so maybe there was something our FO didn't like about him.

Post #145 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:08 am

I mean there were reports Orlando was strongly considering Ziaire at 8 so clearly other teams valued him too.

psman2 · Post #146 » by **psman2** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:10 am

I am ready to trade the Utah pick for one of Houston's upcoming picks. Garuba or even Keon please.

Post #147 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:13 am

Give me Cam Thomas and I'll shut up.

Post #148 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:32 am

Cam or Springer would be solid gets for us I think. But we'll see since it may be a steep asking price to move up in this draft relative to normal.

Post #149 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:37 am

According to Shams, they are still available at 26....maybe we snag another 2nd.

Post #150 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:13 am

Grizzlies traded into #30. I love Butler, but idk about the guaranteed contract and I am not sure about the heart situation. Go Isaiah Todd.

Post #151 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:14 am

Hahaha nice. They took one of my NCAA internationals from this thread.

Post #152 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:15 am

jman3134 wrote:Hahaha nice. They took one of my NCAA internationals from this thread.

We gave up #40 and two future 2nds. Worth it? Should have gone a different route? I feel like this guy may have been there at 40...

Post #153 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:16 am

Todd would have probably been my pick though there are a few solid guys available

Post #154 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:18 am

jman3134 wrote:My other guy Gui Santos went from unknown to #33 on the 2022 NBA mock draft. And, by the way, he declared early this year. Thanks for using my draft position on the guy ESPN. I will take it as flattery.

This could be my best call of all time (the top International scouting services, ID Prospects etc that are way more detailed than ESPN did not have him ranked in the top 30 for his age for most of the season). I honestly think he has a shot to go top 10 if he plays well in the Olympic Qualifiers this summer. If the Grizzlies draft him, this would be the icing on the cake.

With regard to ESPN, I don't think it is a coincidence anymore that my content matches what they have been putting out. I posted about only two prospects during the tournament. Around 3 days after each post, DX posts about the same two prospects in the exact order I had them mentioned. I have met the DX guy several times and he used to follow me, but I am not a fan anymore. They did the same thing with Aldama after I posted about him on twitter.

What. A. Call.

Post #155 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:19 am

VCfor3 wrote:
jman3134 wrote:Hahaha nice. They took one of my NCAA internationals from this thread.

We gave up #40 and two future 2nds. Worth it? Should have gone a different route? I feel like this guy may have been there at 40...

No. I like Santi, but I believe he is a draft and stash guy who is going to play in Europe for a bit. Santi has good potential, but he is an awful rim protector at the moment. We just got rid of Jonas.

This is quite a bit for #30. I think we were banking on Christopher being available.

I am just surprised because almost every guy I posted in this thread that declared withdrew: Satrika, Gui, Ibou, Jaden Ivey....

Post #156 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:23 am

VCfor3 wrote:
jman3134 wrote:My other guy Gui Santos went from unknown to #33 on the 2022 NBA mock draft. And, by the way, he declared early this year. Thanks for using my draft position on the guy ESPN. I will take it as flattery.

This could be my best call of all time (the top International scouting services, ID Prospects etc that are way more detailed than ESPN did not have him ranked in the top 30 for his age for most of the season). I honestly think he has a shot to go top 10 if he plays well in the Olympic Qualifiers this summer. If the Grizzlies draft him, this would be the icing on the cake.

With regard to ESPN, I don't think it is a coincidence anymore that my content matches what they have been putting out. I posted about only two prospects during the tournament. Around 3 days after each post, DX posts about the same two prospects in the exact order I had them mentioned. I have met the DX guy several times and he used to follow me, but I am not a fan anymore. They did the same thing with Aldama after I posted about him on twitter.

What. A. Call.

I reviewed about 10-11 guys this year so not that crazy. But, he was one of the only ones who stayed in.

I thought I mentioned him more on here. Well in case I didn't post it before, here is a prospect breakdown: https://jtmbasketball.blogspot.com/2021/02/diggin-in-tape-part-1-santi-aldama.html

Honestly didn't think we would take him because he is not a rim protector.

Post #157 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:27 am

Did the Clippers just trade a 2nd and cash for a pick 3 spots lower than the one that cost us two future 2nds and #40....

Post #158 » by **jman3134** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:32 am

Missed that, but no shock here. Really wish we took Todd.

Post #159 » by **VCfor3** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:35 am

jman3134 wrote:Missed that, but no shock here. Really wish we took Todd.

Same but it looks like Memphis may have been all in on this guy for a while. Read the middle paragraph when you click on the image:

Read on Twitter

Hellcrooner · Post #160 » by **Hellcrooner** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 am

Congrats.
you just got yourselves PAu Gasols Heir.
with a 30 pick.

just make sure he gets the minutes and the touches.