Hal’s Draft Thread

31to6 · Post #2061 » by **31to6** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:55 am

playa-hater wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Just catching up on everything. Looks like I jumped on Hal's guy bandwagon just in time, lol.
Any UDFAs left worth getting?

Vrenz unless he goes last pick.. Austin Reeves?? 2 bigmen still available as well.
Neemias Queta, Mathew Hurt???

Queta was picked by the Kangz at #39.
Glad we didn’t take Reaves!
Let’s get an UDFA just for fun though

Hal14 · Post #2062 » by **Hal14** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:56 am

31to6 wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:
Hal14 wrote:yeah..

Watch on YouTube

not bad for an 18 yr old..we'll stash him for 2 more yrs in france..imagine how how good he'll be in 2 yrs.

Baby Jaylen?

Exactly what I thought — slightly younger JB with a ponytail.

Would’ve loved a PF, but glad we swung for the fences a bit. Hope we get to see this kid in summer league!

Hadn't thought of the comparison, but yeah, he does kind of play like Jaylen..but at 18 Begarin is already a better passer

Yes, I am glad we swung for the fences. begarin has crazy upside, especially at 45th pick.

Some good players who didn't get drafted. My top choices to bring in as UDFA and have them compete in summer league and training camp:

Moses Wright
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
AJ Lawson
Matt Hurt
Sam Hauser
Daishen Nix
Austin Reeves
Amar Sylla

These are 8 good players - shows how deep this draft was. Hoping we can scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2 of them) as UDFA and at least see what they can do in summer league..

Ayayi, Watford, mckinley wright, romeo weems, aaron henry and some other guys have already been signed as UDFA by other teams..

Post #2063 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:57 am

31to6 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Just catching up on everything. Looks like I jumped on Hal's guy bandwagon just in time, lol.
Any UDFAs left worth getting?

Vrenz unless he goes last pick.. Austin Reeves?? 2 bigmen still available as well.
Neemias Queta, Mathew Hurt???

Queta was picked by the Kangz at #39.
Glad we didn’t take Reaves!
Let’s get an UDFA just for fun though

Sylla, Nix, Vrenz???

Brad Stevens has never missed on an UDFA signing.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #2064 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:57 am

ALL HAIL HAL THE DRAFT GOD.

LarryBirdsFingr · Post #2065 » by **LarryBirdsFingr** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:02 am

Also just for funsies, I had this month's ago.

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.

RickyDizzle · Post #2066 » by **RickyDizzle** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:07 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Interesting. In a deep draft like this 53 seems like a good pick to take a flyer on someone rather than cash. Though some of the guys under consideration at 53 can be signed as UDFAs.

I'm almost excited as excited to see who goes undrafted because we could get a good player for a 2-way there too. Think half of this group Moses Wright, Hauser, Hurt, Onu, Nix, Qeeta, Sims won't hear their name called. 2-way possibility is great or if we draft a stash guy like Vrenz or Begarin, an undrafted guy really has a shot to take Semis spot on the roster. Honestly, with only the 45th pick, replacing Semi with Moses Wright is a good night for us, the fact that he's likely to go undrafted makes me think we can come out of this with 2 decent guys under team control cheaply.

exactly my thoughts.

Maybe even 3 guys! Haha. Draft and stash Begarin/Vrenz at 45, sign Moses Wright to a minimum big league deal with team options every year. Sign an undrafted shooter type to a 2-way Livers, Hurt, Hauser, etc.

We only add one rookie to the big squad but get 2 or 3 young guys under team control to develop or at least take a look at. Then when you make the big consolidation trade, you hope at least one of the 3 guys has earned a bench role.

Stage one of my plan done. Drafted Begarin. Now sign Moses Wright and Hurt, both undrafted guys. Begarin is a stash so thus far the only rookie we added is Yam. Wright could probably be on the big league team and compete with Grant Will. Hurt could be a two-way or also on the big league team. Vrenz went undrafted too... love to sign him to 2-way but he is probably better off staying in Europe and trying again...

Post #2067 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:10 am

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Also just for funsies, I had this month's ago.

LarryBirdsFingr wrote:Heard the team may be looking into yet another draft and stash with this 45 pick, to make room for Yam.

Any chance he comes over or definite stash?

FlatearthZorro · Post #2068 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:12 am

Decent pick with a ton of potential. Hopefully, he continues to work. Begarin could be a steal.

Hal14 · Post #2069 » by **Hal14** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:17 am

djFan71 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Just catching up on everything. Looks like I jumped on Hal's guy bandwagon just in time, lol.
Any UDFAs left worth getting?

Vrenz unless he goes last pick.. Austin Reeves?? 2 bigmen still available as well.
Neemias Queta

I was just looking for Vrenz to see where he went. Probably going 60...

Vrenz, Austin Reeves and Aaron Henry have to be the biggest surprises among guys who went undrafted. Henry already got signed as UDFA..

cloverleaf · Post #2070 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:28 am

31to6 wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:
Hal14 wrote:yeah..

Watch on YouTube

not bad for an 18 yr old..we'll stash him for 2 more yrs in france..imagine how how good he'll be in 2 yrs.

Baby Jaylen?

Exactly what I thought — slightly younger JB with a ponytail.

Would’ve loved a PF, but glad we swung for the fences a bit. Hope we get to see this kid in summer league!

A young JB would be nice, but seems more like a baby Marcus Smart to me.

BostonCouchGM · Post #2071 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:39 am

cloverleaf wrote:
31to6 wrote:
SuperDeluxe wrote:Baby Jaylen?

Exactly what I thought — slightly younger JB with a ponytail.

Would’ve loved a PF, but glad we swung for the fences a bit. Hope we get to see this kid in summer league!

A young JB would be nice, but seems more like a baby Marcus Smart to me.

he's bigger and longer than Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, so not really seeing how he's a baby version of either.

cloverleaf · Post #2072 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:43 am

Interesting the 2 traditional centers, Filip and Charles, that Philly took in the #50s.

Post #2073 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:45 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Exactly what I thought — slightly younger JB with a ponytail.

Would’ve loved a PF, but glad we swung for the fences a bit. Hope we get to see this kid in summer league!

A young JB would be nice, but seems more like a baby Marcus Smart to me.

he's bigger and longer than Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, so not really seeing how he's a baby version of either.

Do you think he can play point ever? Or straight wing?

Post #2074 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:47 am

Hal14 wrote:Some good players who didn't get drafted. My top choices to bring in as UDFA and have them compete in summer league and training camp:

Moses Wright
Vrenz Bleijenbergh
AJ Lawson
Matt Hurt
Sam Hauser
Daishen Nix
Austin Reeves
Amar Sylla

These are 8 good players - shows how deep this draft was. Hoping we can scoop up 1 (or maybe even 2 of them) as UDFA and at least see what they can do in summer league..

Ayayi, Watford, mckinley wright, romeo weems, aaron henry and some other guys have already been signed as UDFA by other teams..

Dude, you're on fire!

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cloverleaf · Post #2075 » by **cloverleaf** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:49 am

BostonCouchGM wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Exactly what I thought — slightly younger JB with a ponytail.

Would’ve loved a PF, but glad we swung for the fences a bit. Hope we get to see this kid in summer league!

A young JB would be nice, but seems more like a baby Marcus Smart to me.

he's bigger and longer than Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown, so not really seeing how he's a baby version of either.

Shorter than JB but with an even longer wingspan. Looks to get up to the rim somewhat like JB and comes in with a still raw jumper.
More of an assists/playmaker man than JB which, combined with his bruiser defender rep and combo guard projection AND raw jumper puts him more in the MS column.

Yeah, more size, and especially more length than Marcus, but Smart plays big for his length.

Of course, JB and MS were top 6 picks and he's a mid-2nd rounder. Few comparisons are exact matches. The young/baby moniker reflects his relative age and stage of development.

RickyDizzle · Post #2076 » by **RickyDizzle** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:53 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
exactly my thoughts.

Maybe even 3 guys! Haha. Draft and stash Begarin/Vrenz at 45, sign Moses Wright to a minimum big league deal with team options every year. Sign an undrafted shooter type to a 2-way Livers, Hurt, Hauser, etc.

We only add one rookie to the big squad but get 2 or 3 young guys under team control to develop or at least take a look at. Then when you make the big consolidation trade, you hope at least one of the 3 guys has earned a bench role.

Stage one of my plan done. Drafted Begarin. Now sign Moses Wright and Hurt, both undrafted guys. Begarin is a stash so thus far the only rookie we added is Yam. Wright could probably be on the big league team and compete with Grant Will. Hurt could be a two-way or also on the big league team. Vrenz went undrafted too... love to sign him to 2-way but he is probably better off staying in Europe and trying again...

Hauser to 2-way. Another step in my plan! Long live Brad Stevens!

Post #2077 » by **djFan71** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:54 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Maybe even 3 guys! Haha. Draft and stash Begarin/Vrenz at 45, sign Moses Wright to a minimum big league deal with team options every year. Sign an undrafted shooter type to a 2-way Livers, Hurt, Hauser, etc.

We only add one rookie to the big squad but get 2 or 3 young guys under team control to develop or at least take a look at. Then when you make the big consolidation trade, you hope at least one of the 3 guys has earned a bench role.

Stage one of my plan done. Drafted Begarin. Now sign Moses Wright and Hurt, both undrafted guys. Begarin is a stash so thus far the only rookie we added is Yam. Wright could probably be on the big league team and compete with Grant Will. Hurt could be a two-way or also on the big league team. Vrenz went undrafted too... love to sign him to 2-way but he is probably better off staying in Europe and trying again...

Hauser to 2-way. Another step in my plan! Long live Brad Stevens!

Dang! You sir are also on fire.

Domenico · Post #2078 » by **Domenico** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:01 am

djFan71 wrote:
31to6 wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Vrenz unless he goes last pick.. Austin Reeves?? 2 bigmen still available as well.
Neemias Queta, Mathew Hurt???

Queta was picked by the Kangz at #39.
Glad we didn’t take Reaves!
Let’s get an UDFA just for fun though

Sylla, Nix, Vrenz???

Brad Stevens has never missed on an UDFA signing.

As a Belgian: Sylla is not that good, average shooter at best, needs to bulk up too. I know NBA style basketball is way different than our league, but he´s not a determinating factor for Oostende. Vrenz needs to shoot it more consistent and needs to work on his tendency to fade out in games. But I´d invite him for sure for summer league.

RickyDizzle · Post #2079 » by **RickyDizzle** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:40 am

djFan71 wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Stage one of my plan done. Drafted Begarin. Now sign Moses Wright and Hurt, both undrafted guys. Begarin is a stash so thus far the only rookie we added is Yam. Wright could probably be on the big league team and compete with Grant Will. Hurt could be a two-way or also on the big league team. Vrenz went undrafted too... love to sign him to 2-way but he is probably better off staying in Europe and trying again...

Hauser to 2-way. Another step in my plan! Long live Brad Stevens!

Dang! You sir are also on fire.

Feels great to have some things align with what I wanted... but the real key is, will I be right that these were good decisions relative to other options available... time will tell on that.

I think Begarin is a solid NBA prospect and a swing for the fences on upside. Honestly I hated the Yam pick last year and viewed it as a throwaway but Yam improved so much that I think he would've been a first rounder this year. Begarin doesn't need much improvement to be a solid NBA prospect.

Hauser wasn't my favorite undrafted guy to go with but is a type that I wanted. Has a chance to be a Duncan Robinson type or at least a no defense floor stretcher off the bench. Better chance at real minutes than Waters or Tacko.

BillessuR6 · Post #2080 » by **BillessuR6** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:29 am

I do not mind the pick. I would have drafted Petrusev, though.

Begarin is young but still at 18 he played in French B league not a great competition at all.

He really needs to improve greatly to play in the NBA...

Let him stay in Europe for a year or two. At least his club will play in French A league this season, so competition will be much better...