2021 Draft

[cberry78]

Ayayi 2 way to lakers. These guys likely already have something lined up I doubt we bring anyone of note in.

**** the Lakers.

[bwgood77]

Hardly!.......lol. Feel free to explain how you came to such an assumption based upon my post? Eye of the beholder opinion it seems. But I'm interested to hear your validation of your claim?

I saw my two favorites, Butler and Queta went 39 and 40. Not sure why Butler dropped that far after I thought his medical clearance was good. that seems like a steal.

To change the question...

If they go undrafted, who would you rather have, Joel Ayayi or Daishen Nix?

Nix pass 1st pg with size to learn from CP3

The only problem is I don't like his improvement areas...seems like a guy who likes to be the main guy with the ball and take mostly pull ups (iso) and is streaky with them.

Then they say he has a casual approach and demeanor to the game. I can kind of see why he dropped based on this:

- Not the most explosive athlete in terms of burst or leaping ability. Isn't always able to create separation from defenders using his first step. Relies heavily on touch and craft inside the arc.

- Perimeter shooting has been streaky throughout his career. Relies heavily on pull-up jumpers due to his average athleticism but has been inconsistent with the results.

- Has always been the focal point of the offense against mostly low-level competition. Struggles to play off the ball. Casual with his on-court demeanor and approach to the game. NBA teams have gotten little exposure to him outside of one poor showing at a Nike Hoop Summit scrimmage. Has a lot to prove with the G League venture.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

[Ghost of Kleine]

Would gladly take Shamet over all of them. Are you nuts?

Hardly!.......lol. Feel free to explain how you came to such an assumption based upon my post? Eye of the beholder opinion it seems. But I'm interested to hear your validation of your claim?

I saw my two favorites, Butler and Queta went 39 and 40. Not sure why Butler dropped that far after I thought his medical clearance was good. that seems like a steal.

To change the question...

If they go undrafted, who would you rather have, Joel Ayayi or Daishen Nix?

Ayayi easily! I just don't like Nixs' lack of shooting, And his wreckless style of play, leading to his 24% turnover rate.

He just kind of reminds me of Kendall Marshall too much. Ayayi is simply really solid across the board, even without any one particular elite skillset that I'm aware of ( aside from his efficiency as a cutter and around the rim of course).

[Blonde]

Nix is someone who should go overseas. Not close to an NBA player at this point IMO. Ayayi is fine but hardly someone I feel bad about missing. Would be surprised if he cracks a real rotation ever. Fairly annoyed that the Jazz got Butler - probably biggest steal of the night and should be ready to help them now.

[RedIndian]

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[RedIndian]

Why not? We have a 2-way spot. Getting to the Finals doesn't mean you completely abandon developing talent

[Fo-Real]

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LMFAO!! James Jones FLEX!!!! LOL

[Ghost of Kleine]

So this is the most immediate list of 2021 undrafted prospects for us to peruse through:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thegamehaus.com/nba/best-undrafted-free-agents-from-the-2021-nba-draft/2021/07/30/amp/

Best Undrafted Free Agents From the 2021 NBA Draft

- Joel Ayayi
Gonzaga- Guard.

- Aaron Henry
Michigan St- Forward.

- David Duke
Providence- Point Guard.

- Austin Reaves
Oklahoma- Guard.

- Daishen Nix
G-League- Point Guard/Shooting Guard.

- John Petty
Alabama- Guard.

- McKinley Wright
Colorado- Guard.

- Matthew Hurt
Duke- Forward.

- Marcus Garrett
Kansas- Guard.

- D.J. Carton
Marquette- Point Guard.

- M.J. Walker
Florida State- Guard.
And I know that there's actually quite a few more names still to be added.

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Damn wtf is going on. Don’t we at least need guys for SL spots?

Did Sarver lay off the entire front office staff except for James Jones or something?

Did Jeff Bower take everyone else with him?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Damn wtf is going on. Don’t we at least need guys for SL spots?

Did Sarver lay off the entire front office staff except for James Jones or something?

Did Jeff Bower take everyone else with him?

Cash considerations is the new VP of basketball operations that replaced Bowers' salary. Obviously Saver is sweating the anticipated tax lines! It seems old habits die hard with fiscally challenged sports owners.

[Revived]

Whether you love Shamet or not, I think everyone can admit it’s odd to see the Suns not try for either a backup PG or backup front court depth in the draft.

And no Shamet isn’t a PG. Even in that highlight video someone posted of him before he’s basically just a catch and shoot player. He’s not a floor general or someone that’s gonna create and can handle a lot of ball handling.

Most 2nd rd picks don’t turn out but still just surprising to not even take a flier on a guy in an area where Suns need help in.

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Damn this really hurts to see especially end up with the Lakers. I think Ayayi will end up a far better player than Ty-Shon Alexander.

[LV-Suns]

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I forgot we don't have a gleague team anymore. So whoever we sign to a 2 way contract will have to spend half of season on some random squad. Doubt that sounds appealing to anyone.

[Slim Charless]

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Damn wtf is going on. Don’t we at least need guys for SL spots?

Did Sarver lay off the entire front office staff except for James Jones or something?

Did Jeff Bower take everyone else with him?

Cash considerations is the new VP of basketball operations that replaced Bowers' salary. Obviously Saver is sweating the anticipated tax lines! It seems old habits die hard with fiscally challenged sports owners.

That can't be. I was told $arver changed. He's gonna pay massive amounts of luxury tax cause he learned his lesson. Face it, this ends with a choice of Mikal or Ayton for us, not both. Hopefully we don't just let him walk and we get something good.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Damn wtf is going on. Don’t we at least need guys for SL spots?

Did Sarver lay off the entire front office staff except for James Jones or something?

Did Jeff Bower take everyone else with him?

Cash considerations is the new VP of basketball operations that replaced Bowers' salary. Obviously Saver is sweating the anticipated tax lines! It seems old habits die hard with fiscally challenged sports owners.

That can't be. I was told $arver changed. He's gonna pay massive amounts of luxury tax cause he learned his lesson. Face it, this ends with a choice of Mikal or Ayton for us, not both. Hopefully we don't just let him walk and we get something good.

Hopefully this is just an anomaly! But last night and this latest news foes honestly remind a bit of his choosing to dump pl6and picks as he did when he first acquired the franchise! For his sake ( and ours) I hope that this is part of an outlier occurrence with intent to keep our core together?

What's going to really suck is if we don't resign Shamet next season, And this becomes a cash dump masquerading as an attempt to add further backcourt depth?? For now, I'm cautiously optimistic. But the pattern remains it seems.

[Barkley6]

Cash considerations is the new VP of basketball operations that replaced Bowers' salary. Obviously Saver is sweating the anticipated tax lines! It seems old habits die hard with fiscally challenged sports owners.

That can't be. I was told $arver changed. He's gonna pay massive amounts of luxury tax cause he learned his lesson. Face it, this ends with a choice of Mikal or Ayton for us, not both. Hopefully we don't just let him walk and we get something good.

Hopefully this is just an anomaly! But last night and this latest news foes honestly remind a bit of his choosing to dump pl6and picks as he did when he first acquired the franchise! For his sake ( and ours) I hope that this is part of an outlier occurrence with intent to keep our core together?

What's going to really suck is if we don't resign Shamet next season, And this becomes a cash dump masquerading as an attempt to add further backcourt depth?? For now, I'm cautiously optimistic. But the pattern remains it seems.

This is more a James Jones/Monty move than a Sarver one to me. Monty coached Shamet in Philly. We got off a bad contract a year early, we got the best player in the trade, and opened up a roster spot for an additional FA signing who would probably be better than Pick 29 anyway. This makes basketball sense, not just $ sense, unlike say, shipping out Kurt Thomas for nothing, or trading away the 7th pick when we could have drafted Iguoadala.

[Ghost of Kleine]

That can't be. I was told $arver changed. He's gonna pay massive amounts of luxury tax cause he learned his lesson. Face it, this ends with a choice of Mikal or Ayton for us, not both. Hopefully we don't just let him walk and we get something good.

Hopefully this is just an anomaly! But last night and this latest news foes honestly remind a bit of his choosing to dump pl6and picks as he did when he first acquired the franchise! For his sake ( and ours) I hope that this is part of an outlier occurrence with intent to keep our core together?

What's going to really suck is if we don't resign Shamet next season, And this becomes a cash dump masquerading as an attempt to add further backcourt depth?? For now, I'm cautiously optimistic. But the pattern remains it seems.

This is more a James Jones/Monty move than a Sarver one to me. Monty coached Shamet in Philly. We got off a bad contract a year early, we got the best player in the trade, and opened up a roster spot for an additional FA signing who would probably be better than Pick 29 anyway. This makes basketball sense, not just $ sense, unlike say, shipping out Kurt Thomas for nothing, or trading away the 7th pick when we could have drafted Iguoadala.

Again, I do get the need for upgraded shooting and the basketball side of this. But if they don't extend the qualifying offer and Shamet becomes a 1 yr rental, Then does this not become a financially motivated trade? And then would it still be deemed a good trade?

At that point, We have basically given up Carter ( depth), Our pick ( cost controlled depth), And Shamet ( 3rd guard option)?? So wouldn't our depth then be much thinner with 3 spots being discarded for around 5 million in potential savings? So for me, I see the basketball side of this for the moment. But will look at next season's contractual commitments as a more accurate barometer of the motivation for this trade.

[RunDogGun]

Best time for us to draft a player is when we have a great culture. We have a great culture, and decide to skip this draft to get a guy that is a taller version of Galloway?

Also, I don't get placating a coach who blew two finals games, out of sheer stupidity.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Best time for us to draft a player is when we have a great culture. We have a great culture, and decide to skip this draft to get a guy that is a taller version of Galloway?

And next year's draft as well too.
So next season if we don't extend Shamets' qualifying offer, Then we just basically dumped
Carter and a (cost controlled asset) pick for 5 million in savings? How would the trade be viewed then with reduced depth and no incoming young cost controlled talent ( depth) to surround our expensive core. Would we have not shot ourselves in the foot and basically taken a step back in interest of Sarvers' bottom line?

[Barkley6]

Hopefully this is just an anomaly! But last night and this latest news foes honestly remind a bit of his choosing to dump pl6and picks as he did when he first acquired the franchise! For his sake ( and ours) I hope that this is part of an outlier occurrence with intent to keep our core together?

What's going to really suck is if we don't resign Shamet next season, And this becomes a cash dump masquerading as an attempt to add further backcourt depth?? For now, I'm cautiously optimistic. But the pattern remains it seems.

This is more a James Jones/Monty move than a Sarver one to me. Monty coached Shamet in Philly. We got off a bad contract a year early, we got the best player in the trade, and opened up a roster spot for an additional FA signing who would probably be better than Pick 29 anyway. This makes basketball sense, not just $ sense, unlike say, shipping out Kurt Thomas for nothing, or trading away the 7th pick when we could have drafted Iguoadala.

Again, I do get the need for upgraded shooting and the basketball side of this. But if they don't extend the qualifying offer and Shamet becomes a 1 yr rental, Then does this not become a financially motivated trade? And then would it still be deemed a good trade?

At that point, We have basically given up Carter ( depth), Our pick ( cost controlled depth), And Shamet ( 3rd guard option)?? So wouldn't our depth then be much thinner with 3 spots being discarded for around 5 million in potential savings? So for me, I see the basketball side of this for the moment. But will look at next season's contractual commitments as a more accurate barometer of the motivation for this trade.

Keep in mind we shipped out 2 for 1, if one of those additional roster spots allows us to re-sign or add someone we otherwise couldn't have, and we get deeper overall, then we are in good shape going forward. Think of it this way, who would you rather have Carter and a rookie who won't play outside of garbage time, or Shamet and Abdel Nader?