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2021 Draft Thread - Part II

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1021 » by NatP4 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:31 am

doclinkin wrote:
NatP4 wrote:We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.


Confirmed? Where. I like Huff, way underrated. Sneaky athletic for a true 7'1" center.


Katz tweeted out that we signed him to an exhibit 10 contract.
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Post#1022 » by Kanyewest » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:33 am

Also Fred Katz: Wizards are signing St. Louis guard Jordan Goodwin to an exhibit 10 contract.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1023 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:38 am

Ruzious wrote:Aaron Wiggins goes at 55 to OKC! CCJ said he'd get drafted, and I was foolish enough to doubt him.

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1024 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:41 am

NatP4 wrote:I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused with the direction. The Westbrook trade was brilliant, but the Kispert and Todd picks are pretty meh, and Aaron Holiday is nothing more than a replacement level backup PG. there were a ton of good players that went in round 2 that the wizards could've jumped in on.

I’m just confused at this point


I am also confused but I have a real good peaceful feeling about this. Who was it that musical group the Eagles that said I’ve got a peaceful easy feeling?

The moves that I don’t really understand I actually have faith that Tommy’s Shepherd has a freaking clue and he knows just a hill what he wants to do.

The guys like Jay half if they did not get drafted are going to turn out to be just as good as the second round picks that we thought we wanted.

It was torturous seeing so many names that all of us have obsessed about not selected. I am dumbfounded about Aaron holiday and Isaiah Todd but I got faith in our GM!
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1025 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:44 am

This trade was so outstanding.., to see Russell Westbrook get rewarded for coming to Washington and playing hard was just outstanding.

I really believe when you do right by people good comes back to you.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1026 » by queridiculo » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:51 am

gambitx777 wrote:Would everyone have preferred we took Todd at 22? And paid him double what we are gonna pay him? If tommy liked Todd, which let's be honest here is not a bad prospect. I commend him for trading back for a guy he liked and not spending more money on him and getting a useful bench player. He could have taken him at 22 and caused a real melt down for everyone here.


Takes quite a bit of mental gymnastics to arrive at that conclusion.

Todd at 22 would have been just as bad as bad as Todd at 31.

Todd is not a better prospect than Springer, Jackson or Sharpe, and in terms of second round value he's clearly eclipsed by the likes of Wieskamp, Butler, Petrusev and Queta.

If Sheppard was so in love with Todd, and was afraid of adding a 1st round salary to the payroll, why didn't he pursue trades that would have netted the Wizards multiple second round choices?

No argument from me if we got away with a project and Butler for example.

I'll take it a step further, even the Kispert choice is questionable at best.

He parlayed a senior season into near lottery status when he was widely projected a 2nd rounder just a year earlier.

Jalen Johnson would have been risky, but he's far and away a better longterm bet than Kispert, who doesn't bring anything to the table but scoring.

The Wizards wasted a ton of opportunities yesterday.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1027 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:40 am

I agree with you totally on Jalen Johnson.

Maybe they just didn’t wanna take the risk on any kind of character or weirdness. I just see a **** stud in jail and Johnson
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Post#1028 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:41 am

Do you see what the Google translator just did jail and Johnson Jalen Johnson
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Post#1029 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:42 am

Washington had a really good solid draft and what some other teams have freaking epically great draft day

Spoken very slowly Washington had a very good draft day but some other teams had freaking epic draft days
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1030 » by Ruzious » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:50 am

queridiculo wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:Would everyone have preferred we took Todd at 22? And paid him double what we are gonna pay him? If tommy liked Todd, which let's be honest here is not a bad prospect. I commend him for trading back for a guy he liked and not spending more money on him and getting a useful bench player. He could have taken him at 22 and caused a real melt down for everyone here.


Takes quite a bit of mental gymnastics to arrive at that conclusion.

Todd at 22 would have been just as bad as bad as Todd at 31.

Todd is not a better prospect than Springer, Jackson or Sharpe, and in terms of second round value he's clearly eclipsed by the likes of Wieskamp, Butler, Petrusev and Queta.

If Sheppard was so in love with Todd, and was afraid of adding a 1st round salary to the payroll, why didn't he pursue trades that would have netted the Wizards multiple second round choices?

No argument from me if we got away with a project and Butler for example.

I'll take it a step further, even the Kispert choice is questionable at best.

He parlayed a senior season into near lottery status when he was widely projected a 2nd rounder just a year earlier.

Jalen Johnson would have been risky, but he's far and away a better longterm bet than Kispert, who doesn't bring anything to the table but scoring.

The Wizards wasted a ton of opportunities yesterday.

I like Kispert better than that, and I was skeptical about Jalen Johnson being the type of person that Tommy would be comfortable picking, but there's a lot of truth there. Then again, a lot of teams passed on Johnson.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1031 » by Ruzious » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:53 am

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NatP4 wrote:We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.

Good prospect. If he puts on some pounds and gets stronger, he would make for a good backup C. He is listed as a PF, but I don’t think he has the foot speed to compete as one.

This is great to hear. Agreed that he should hit the weights and get stronger. He's strictly a C.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1032 » by Ruzious » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:29 am

"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1033 » by Dark Faze » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:32 am

You can clearly identify Tommy's failings with the draft: He gets locked in on guys, and doesn't factor the value of the pick versus the position where the player is picked very highly into the equation. It's a pattern now.

It's not smart, and the Todd pick was one of the most egregious examples of that mindset. We flushed a very valuable #22 pick down the toilet. The Holiday acquisition makes just about *zero* sense given how he's played to date, and even worse, is it an admission that a previous draft pick was wasted in Winston?

Tommy just pulled an all time trade, so I'm not going to say I dislike him as our GM, but his profile is starting to develop: Elite trades, bad/mediocre F/A signings, disastrous draft mentality.

Being fair to him the free agent part of that statement still needs more data, so hopefully he can turn that part around, but I'm very hesitant giving this guy a bunch of draft picks to work with should we trade Beal.
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1034 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:38 am

Ruzious wrote:
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NatP4 wrote:We also picked up Jay Huff, which is great news.

Good prospect. If he puts on some pounds and gets stronger, he would make for a good backup C. He is listed as a PF, but I don’t think he has the foot speed to compete as one.

This is great to hear. Agreed that he should hit the weights and get stronger. He's strictly a C.
Huff is probably a better Prospect than Corey kispert.

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1035 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:43 am

I said that and left it there on an island. I know that it will be considered an outlandish statement. If you look at the University of Virginia and their track record it is pretty close to that of Gonzaga the last three or four years. Oh didn't Virginia win a championship? Wasn't a big man on that team by the name of Jay Huff? Or was he because I am not sure if he was on the roster when the Virginia want it all I said when Virginia won it all

How has the physical attributes of a starting NBA hi post power/Center. He is light on his feet like a bird. I think you've got a pretty jump shot. I said I think he has got a pretty jump shot and this **** Google translator changes tenses

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1036 » by queridiculo » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:46 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Do you see what the Google translator just did jail and Johnson Jalen Johnson


I read that as a pun given the reported "character issues" :lol:
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Post#1037 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:48 am

How has the physical attributes of a pick-and-pop I post Center who would excel in international play and I believe eventually nbmbaa. In the NBA

Kispert didn't play much until his junior year. I think Huff also developed slowly. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

Didn't Fred Van Vleet and Malcolm Brogdon play three or four NCAA seasons each ? I think these guys and Luka Garza are going to ultimately be very solid Pros despite not being prodigious kind of kids that lead straight in as Freshmen.

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1038 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:48 am

I really apologize for the errors because this stupid **** translator changes things. Jay Huff not how Jay Huff

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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1039 » by closg00 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:27 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Aaron Wiggins goes at 55 to OKC! CCJ said he'd get drafted, and I was foolish enough to doubt him.

:D

Wiggins did well in workouts and created some buzz
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Re: 2021 Draft Thread - Part II 

Post#1040 » by Dat2U » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:54 am

I'm fine with Kispert at #15 but IMO Shepp got too cute and blew the #22 on a reclamation project with one year left on his rookie deal and a high upside play with low awareness. Both are Ernie specials.

The trade of dumping Westbrook's contract to rebuild around Beal also makes no sense. Either trade both or try to retool around both but once again Shepp and the front office are trying to thread the needle and its not going to work.

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