Official Trade Thread - Part XLI

gambitx777 · Post #1361 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:01 pm

dckingsfan wrote:So, this is what we have now? Did I miss anything?

Aaron Holiday
Bradley Beal
Chandler Hutchison
Corey Kispert
Daniel Gafford
Dāvis Bertāns
Deni Avdija
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kyle Kuzma
Montrezl Harrell
Rui Hachimura
Thomas Bryant

You're forgetting Todd. But yeah that's about it. For now.

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dckingsfan · Post #1362 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:03 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:So, this is what we have now? Did I miss anything?

Aaron Holiday
Bradley Beal
Chandler Hutchison
Corey Kispert
Daniel Gafford
Dāvis Bertāns
Deni Avdija
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kyle Kuzma
Montrezl Harrell
Rui Hachimura
Thomas Bryant
You're forgetting Todd. But yeah that's about it. For now.

Todd is not playing this year - and probably not next, very, very raw (my opinion).

mhd · Post #1363 » by **mhd** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:03 pm

Dare I ask, what about Kemba? He's only got 2 years left.

prime1time · Post #1364 » by **prime1time** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:32 pm

The NBA is such a challenging league. Players want money and situations that maximize their skills and a chance to win a championship. Getting all of that is hard. But what ends up happening is that need attracts need. If I'm Ben Simmons or I'm part of his camp, I am pushing hard for a trade to DC. With the shooting we've added, it's clearly the best situation for him. I'm not willing to be strip mined - as Darryl Morey put it - to get him, but that could work here.

gambitx777 · Post #1365 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:46 pm

mhd wrote:Dare I ask, what about Kemba? He's only got 2 years left.

Could he be had for dumping bertans and Kuz on them? Maybe , but is he washed. . . . Like is he just done. Idk he might play Garbo minute in OKC and re up his value like CP3 .

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mhd · Post #1366 » by **mhd** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:49 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
mhd wrote:Dare I ask, what about Kemba? He's only got 2 years left.
Could he be had for dumping bertans and Kuz on them? Maybe , but is he washed. . . . Like is he just done. Idk he might play Garbo minute in OKC and re up his value like CP3 .

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Yeah, you are right. Kemba would be a poor fit here. He's a horrific defender who gets exposed and targeted in the playoffs for that reason. I'd rather go after a vet stopgap PG (like Rondo) in FA if all other options fail.

mhd · Post #1367 » by **mhd** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:53 pm

Posted this on the trade board, but I'd trade Kuzma for Kennard if possible. Kennard gives us a backcourt pick & roll creator. Kuzma isn't needed with Deni, Rui, Bertans, KCP, and Kispert on the roster.

Kuzma and Kennard have roughly identical contracts.

Jimmy Recard · Post #1368 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:59 pm

mhd wrote:According to the Athletic, KCP will start at SF.

Right now, its:
PG: Holliday/
SG: Beal/Kispert
SF: KCP/Deni/Kuzma
PF: Rui/Deni/Bertans
C: Gafford/Harrell/Bryant

We need to consolidate the wings obviously.

I like KCP more than most but hell no to him starting over Deni. Besides, wasn’t it reported that Wes during interviews was talking about utilising Deni’s skill set more next season?

TGW · Post #1369 » by **TGW** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:19 pm

My lineup at this point:

Beal/KCP/Kuzma/Rui/Gafford

Holliday/Kispert/Deni/Bertans/Bryant

payitforward · Post #1370 » by **payitforward** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:30 pm

mhd wrote:Posted this before, but would Memphis consider Bertans/Kuzma for Bledsoe?

We get out of either contract (Bledsoe has 4 million guaranteed next year) and get a vet stopgap at PG.

Nah... they won't want the long contract.

gambitx777 · Post #1371 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:38 pm

Would any one be mad if we traded for terry Rozier ?

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Dat2U · Post #1372 » by **Dat2U** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:46 pm

Jimmy Recard wrote:
mhd wrote:According to the Athletic, KCP will start at SF.

Right now, its:
PG: Holliday/
SG: Beal/Kispert
SF: KCP/Deni/Kuzma
PF: Rui/Deni/Bertans
C: Gafford/Harrell/Bryant

We need to consolidate the wings obviously.

I like KCP more than most but hell no to him starting over Deni. Besides, wasn’t it reported that Wes during interviews was talking about utilising Deni’s skill set more next season?

G Caldwell-Pope, A. Holiday
G Beal, (Mathews)
F Avdija, Kispert, Hutchison
F Hachimura, Bertans, Kuzma, Todd
C Gafford, Harrell, Bryant

Avdija is your point forward. Caldwell-Pope can defend PGs.

keynote · Post #1373 » by **keynote** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:49 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Jimmy Recard wrote:
mhd wrote:According to the Athletic, KCP will start at SF.

Right now, its:
PG: Holliday/
SG: Beal/Kispert
SF: KCP/Deni/Kuzma
PF: Rui/Deni/Bertans
C: Gafford/Harrell/Bryant

We need to consolidate the wings obviously.

I like KCP more than most but hell no to him starting over Deni. Besides, wasn’t it reported that Wes during interviews was talking about utilising Deni’s skill set more next season?

G Caldwell-Pope, A. Holiday
G Beal, (Mathews)
F Avdija, Kispert, Hutchison
F Hachimura, Bertans, Kuzma, Todd
C Gafford, Harrell, Bryant

Avdija is your point forward. Caldwell-Pope can defend PGs.

I can dig it. I'd like to see Bryant with that lineup to add shooting, in case Gafford's off-season investment in his J hasn't quite matured.

Deni has to take another leap with his handle, though.

Shoe · Post #1374 » by **Shoe** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:01 pm

Jimmy Recard wrote:
mhd wrote:According to the Athletic, KCP will start at SF.

Right now, its:
PG: Holliday/
SG: Beal/Kispert
SF: KCP/Deni/Kuzma
PF: Rui/Deni/Bertans
C: Gafford/Harrell/Bryant

We need to consolidate the wings obviously.

I like KCP more than most but hell no to him starting over Deni. Besides, wasn’t it reported that Wes during interviews was talking about utilising Deni’s skill set more next season?

Deni needs more playmaking opportunities. If he comes off the bench he'll get those with Kispert, Bertans, Matthews spacing out, Bryant on the pick n pop/pick n roll.

NatP4 · Post #1375 » by **NatP4** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:09 pm

They could simply bring back Neto with a smaller exception and have a starting caliber PG. Deni can have an increased usage and playmaking role.

Neto Holiday
Beal KCP
Avdija Kispert
Hachimura Bertans
Gafford Harrell

It’s not a contender, buts it’s a solid 45 win middle seed playoff team that is enjoyable to watch.

Dolevi · Post #1376 » by **Dolevi** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:13 pm

Shoe wrote:
Jimmy Recard wrote:
mhd wrote:According to the Athletic, KCP will start at SF.

Right now, its:
PG: Holliday/
SG: Beal/Kispert
SF: KCP/Deni/Kuzma
PF: Rui/Deni/Bertans
C: Gafford/Harrell/Bryant

We need to consolidate the wings obviously.

I like KCP more than most but hell no to him starting over Deni. Besides, wasn’t it reported that Wes during interviews was talking about utilising Deni’s skill set more next season?

Deni needs more playmaking opportunities. If he comes off the bench he'll get those with Kispert, Bertans, Matthews spacing out, Bryant on the pick n pop/pick n roll.

I think one important meaning of this trade is letting Avdija move to positions 1-2 so he'll get these opportunities to playmake the game. I guess Unseld Jr. believes in his abilities and is very involved in this trade. Even if Washington will bring another Guard, this amount of Forwards is very weird and intriguing. Still it's too soon to be sure of that, I think we gonna see another changes in the roster.

Gig18 · Post #1377 » by **Gig18** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:39 pm

NatP4 wrote:They could simply bring back Neto with a smaller exception and have a starting caliber PG. Deni can have an increased usage and playmaking role.

Neto Holiday
Beal KCP
Avdija Kispert
Hachimura Bertans
Gafford Harrell

It’s not a contender, buts it’s a solid 45 win middle seed playoff team that is enjoyable to watch.

They should definitely resign Neto. He played very well for us last year

closg00 · Post #1378 » by **closg00** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:40 pm

I don't understand Beal, he is ok with the Westbrook trade and he isn't part of any contending Big-3, or Big-2

Gig18 · Post #1379 » by **Gig18** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:47 pm

I think we now have the same problem that the Lakers had.
there isn't much of a market for Kyle Kuzma ...

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #1380 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:53 pm

TGW wrote:My lineup at this point:

Beal/KCP/Kuzma/Rui/Gafford

Holliday/Kispert/Deni/Bertans/Bryant

On the bright side, we are virtually guaranteed a lottery pick next year.