Stein: Lakers have agreed to trade for Russell Westbrook

[UnFadeable21]

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If anyone plays NBA2K21 on PS5

I just uploaded a roster with all the first round rookies uploaded.

My first year doing 2K rosters but I’ve had the number 1 rated Madden roster 3 years running.

First look at Russ Westbrook in the Purple & Gold.


Got all 30 first round rookies along with all the traded players. Will update free agency when the time comes as well.

[mcscotty]

I don't have much to say about this, other than it will make for some great drama if Russ and KD meet in the finals.

[Spanish_Laker]

Very bad trade for LA. You just gave up our best shooter and defender and we get a bad 3pt shooter, a guy who will kill any spacing for the team and a turnover machine who is past his prime. Yes, I know, he is a dog, his work ethic is elite etc. But he is an awful fit next to LeBron and AD. We are set for a 1st/2nd round exit unless Rob somehow manages to fix the spacing and shooting, which is highly unlikely.

[tamaraw08]

Very bad trade for LA. You just gave up our best shooter and defender and we get a bad 3pt shooter, a guy who will kill any spacing for the team and a turnover machine who is past his prime. Yes, I know, he is a dog, his work ethic is elite etc. But he is an awful fit next to LeBron and AD. We are set for a 1st/2nd round exit unless Rob somehow manages to fix the spacing and shooting, which is highly unlikely.

It's a win win situation for
AD- He gets his bestfriend to play along side him. Davis doesn't' worry about stats.
Lebron can relax a bit in having to handle the ball and now he gets a player who loves to pass and set up teammates, James continues to 25pts/game streak= win
Westbrook, gets his triple double, he collects 11 assists, 12 rebs= AD probably in coast mode and 14 pts.
Vogel who is not a great in drawing up plays gets 2 great passers in James and Westbrook.

[snaquille oatmeal]

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If anyone plays NBA2K21 on PS5

I just uploaded a roster with all the first round rookies uploaded.

My first year doing 2K rosters but I’ve had the number 1 rated Madden roster 3 years running.

First look at Russ Westbrook in the Purple & Gold.


Got all 30 first round rookies along with all the traded players. Will update free agency when the time comes as well.

This is like asking do you like porn better than actual being the mayor of Boning town

[snaquille oatmeal]

Very bad trade for LA. You just gave up our best shooter and defender and we get a bad 3pt shooter, a guy who will kill any spacing for the team and a turnover machine who is past his prime. Yes, I know, he is a dog, his work ethic is elite etc. But he is an awful fit next to LeBron and AD. We are set for a 1st/2nd round exit unless Rob somehow manages to fix the spacing and shooting, which is highly unlikely.

Just consider the collusion dinner Lebron, AD, and Russ had where they professed to do what it takes to win.

[snaquille oatmeal]

I'm going to wait to freak out until I see what the roster looks like. If we come out of this with Buddy Hield as well.. dream scenario. But.. yeah. If our roster truly is Westbrook/Caruso/Wes/LeBron/AD with THT and some vets off the bench.. I'm going to be absolutely pissed.

If we sign Caruso THT, Wes Matthews, JJ Reddick, Quinn Cook, Carmelo, Dwight Ho, and Javele McGee I’m happy.

[LAL1947]

Very bad trade for LA. You just gave up our best shooter and defender and we get a bad 3pt shooter, a guy who will kill any spacing for the team and a turnover machine who is past his prime. Yes, I know, he is a dog, his work ethic is elite etc. But he is an awful fit next to LeBron and AD. We are set for a 1st/2nd round exit unless Rob somehow manages to fix the spacing and shooting, which is highly unlikely.

Just consider the collusion dinner Lebron, AD, and Russ had where they professed to do what it takes to win.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this thought, lol. In despair, I mean.

Please... pretty please... someone, anyone... convince Lebron to go to Dallas in a trade for Luka. I beg!

Happy to send them Westbrook too in exchange for any bad contracts they want to get rid of.

Luka + AD will be magical.

[LAKESHOW]

Like I've said before, I know the dude personally. Great guy, very good person.
But I don't know of the basketball fit as of yet, as time will tell. But I'm supportive all the way to adding an MVP to the roster.
Hes an LA guy, and we welcome him back home in a Laker Uniform

[BEazy]

How is it that Dennis got so much support here by some and now it's the end of the world with Russell Westbrook who is 100000 times better than Schroder? If you believed we could've won the championship with freaking Schroder as our starting point guard, then you should have no problem believing Russell Westbrook can win with this roster. Compare the stats people, Westbrook and Schroder are very similar except Russell Westbrook backs up his talk, while Youtuber just talks nonsense. I'm sure these are also the same people that hated the Rondo acquisition and probably said it wouldn't work.

[danfantastk32]

Lakers agree on deal to acquire Wizards’ Russell Westbrook

“They talked about putting their egos aside and playing as one in their quest to bring the Lakers another NBA championship. Westbrook talked about how his only intention was winning and coming back home to Los Angeles to become a champion.”

“James and Davis talked about the two of them changing positions if that was best for the team — James moving from small forward to power forward and Davis from power forward to center.”

“Westbrook let James and Davis know he doesn’t mind playing off the ball when James initiates the offense…”

Well, I feel a lot better about this deal after reading this article. Let’s see if these guys can put their money where their mouth is.

Not to get into an argument....but isn't this what they always say? It's the 'peaches and roses' part right now. But even more the issue (imo) is that even if they do achieve zen, and everyone decides to do what's best for the team....will it be good? In other words...CAN Westbrook play off-ball? Can Lebron? I think we all know that Westbrook is going to be an absolutely dreadful 'catch & shoot' guy. He's an old dog at this point (they all are, really) and they think they're gonna learn new tricks. I'm very skeptical.

My prediction: Westbrook will definitely take the load off of Lebron. During the regular season, I can see this looking really good. Westbrook just relentlessly attacking whenever Lebron sits. He will work well with AD, and there will be alot to be positive about. But then the playoffs come. The game will slow, and Westbrook will become a bit of a negative out there. He wont be able to shoot, and so teams will be playing 5 on 4.

Could be wrong. Vogal has his work cut out for him. He's got to be the first person in history to teach one of these high-flying, ball dominant, PG's to play a totally different way. I'd already have shooting-coaches at Westbrooks house.

Can we get Phil back to play the "Tex Winters" role for Vogal??? Maybe I'd buy into this.

[danfantastk32]

How is it that Dennis got so much support here by some and now it's the end of the world with Russell Westbrook who is 100000 times better than Schroder?

I've not hit these boards as much as I used to the last year....but has Dennis got that much support? I thought he was meh myself, and I couldn't stand him, the personality. Westbrook is vastly more athletic than Schroder, and if this was a 1on1 sport, I'd be ecstatic. Team-wise, I don't know that I rate him much higher, and he's easily twice the unlikable, chippy, dick-head that Schroder is.

Certainly not the end of the world. We gave up a bunch of guys with zero future. If (big if) this whole thing somehow gels, and we are able to remain a decent defensive team....this squad will be unstoppable. And if it doesn't....Westbrook will give Lebron rest during the course of the 82. That is something in itself. Just thought there were better fits out there. DeRozen sounded much better to me. Dame woulda been a much better fit (imo), and I wouldn't have to do mental gymnastics to envision it working out.

All that, without bringing up that I think Westbrook is a giant cock, who throws dirty fouls when he gets frustrated, and probably won't listen to Lebron. Now....I will admit I don't know the guy, and I might be completely wrong. If so, I'll own as much when the time comes.

[BEazy]

How is it that Dennis got so much support here by some and now it's the end of the world with Russell Westbrook who is 100000 times better than Schroder?

I've not hit these boards as much as I used to the last year....but has Dennis got that much support? I thought he was meh myself, and I couldn't stand him, the personality. Westbrook is vastly more athletic than Schroder, and if this was a 1on1 sport, I'd be ecstatic. Team-wise, I don't know that I rate him much higher, and he's easily twice the unlikable, chippy, dick-head that Schroder is.

Certainly not the end of the world. We gave up a bunch of guys with zero future. If (big if) this whole thing somehow gels, and we are able to remain a decent defensive team....this squad will be unstoppable. And if it doesn't....Westbrook will give Lebron rest during the course of the 82. That is something in itself. Just thought there were better fits out there. DeRozen sounded much better to me. Dame woulda been a much better fit (imo), and I wouldn't have to do mental gymnastics to envision it working out.

All that, without bringing up that I think Westbrook is a giant cock, who throws dirty fouls when he gets frustrated, and probably won't listen to Lebron. Now....I will admit I don't know the guy, and I might be completely wrong. If so, I'll own as much when the time comes.

You'd be surprised how many people want to pay Schroder 100 million over getting Westbrook.

How were we rated number 1 in defense without 60% of our team? Defense won't be the issue here, Vogel will get everybody on the same page as far as defense goes. This is also the reason why Fizdale was hired, because he can manage egos pretty well. I mean he did it when LBJ was in his prime.

Westbrook can be a nuisance but this is his hometown and he wants to do good for his hometown. If I were a professional basketball player, I would do everything in my power to make this work because I eventually want to retire in my hometown where people like me and not hate me. Plus if this doesn't work out with arguably the 2 top 10 players in the league then his career is over. This is basically do or die for RW and I think he'll come out with a positive perspective when it's all said and done.

[snaquille oatmeal]

Lakers agree on deal to acquire Wizards’ Russell Westbrook

“They talked about putting their egos aside and playing as one in their quest to bring the Lakers another NBA championship. Westbrook talked about how his only intention was winning and coming back home to Los Angeles to become a champion.”

“James and Davis talked about the two of them changing positions if that was best for the team — James moving from small forward to power forward and Davis from power forward to center.”

“Westbrook let James and Davis know he doesn’t mind playing off the ball when James initiates the offense…”

Well, I feel a lot better about this deal after reading this article. Let’s see if these guys can put their money where their mouth is.

Not to get into an argument....but isn't this what they always say? It's the 'peaches and roses' part right now. But even more the issue (imo) is that even if they do achieve zen, and everyone decides to do what's best for the team....will it be good? In other words...CAN Westbrook play off-ball? Can Lebron? I think we all know that Westbrook is going to be an absolutely dreadful 'catch & shoot' guy. He's an old dog at this point (they all are, really) and they think they're gonna learn new tricks. I'm very skeptical.

My prediction: Westbrook will definitely take the load off of Lebron. During the regular season, I can see this looking really good. Westbrook just relentlessly attacking whenever Lebron sits. He will work well with AD, and there will be alot to be positive about. But then the playoffs come. The game will slow, and Westbrook will become a bit of a negative out there. He wont be able to shoot, and so teams will be playing 5 on 4.

Could be wrong. Vogal has his work cut out for him. He's got to be the first person in history to teach one of these high-flying, ball dominant, PG's to play a totally different way. I'd already have shooting-coaches at Westbrooks house.

Can we get Phil back to play the "Tex Winters" role for Vogal??? Maybe I'd buy into this.

Actually no, that is not what they always say. AD usually says I will play PF and center when I have to. Lebron says “where is my All Star help @?”

[Doug_12]

I totally hate this move from every perspective. KCP was basically the only piece besides Caruso who fit well next to Lebron and AD. Now we traded him for Westbrook, who looked awful last time he needed to play off-ball.

As I recall our series agains the Rockets, the key was that we figured out that off-ball Westbrook shall not be guarded at all making doubling Harden easier - without giving up the coverage of others (like Covington). This will hit us hard similarly as it hit the Rockets, but spacing is not the only issue: The last time Westbrook was a good defender was maybe in the early 2010'-es. As he got older and took on more offensive responsibility his defense declined to a point where he is now only subpar. I don't see him getting transformed to his younger self again, and if he doesn't do this, it will be another problem to solve.

The only way this can maybe work is if we get a premium 3&D wing and Lebron goes to PF and Davis to C. Every other scenario (like having Drummond, McGee, Gasol etc... in our best lineup) will fail and we will never come out of the 1st round of the PO.

The ice on the cake would be if we would sign Derozan somehow and maybe Boban. Then we would be a perfect team in the '90-es: lot of high volume-low efficency guys with iso and mid range heavy scoring.

[BEazy]

See the problem with everybody comparing Westbrook stint with the Rockets is that D'Antoni had absolutely no freaking clue how to use Westbrook. To be honest, the Rockets were a failed experiment because you can't have a super small line up and think it's going to translate into winning basketball. I mean you go VERY small and have absolutely no inside presence. Why would you trade Capela when Westbrook has MAJOR success with bigs? On top of that, Harden isn't exactly the most willing to let go of the ball and let Westbrook do his thing. His Rocket stint is a very bad example to justify his cons.

[Doug_12]

See the problem with everybody comparing Westbrook stint with the Rockets is that D'Antoni had absolutely no freaking clue how to use Westbrook. I mean you go VERY small and have absolutely no inside presence. I mean why would you trade Capela when Westbrook has MAJOR success with bigs? On top of that, Harden isn't exactly the most willing to let go of the ball and let Westbrook do his thing. His Rocket stint is a very bad example to justify his cons.

Aham. The Rockets had a -1.4 Net Rating when Westbrook played and Harden didn't (which is pretty bad for a 4th seeded team) - and -6.0 after Jan. So I don't really see Harden limiting him.

[tamaraw08]

How is it that Dennis got so much support here by some and now it's the end of the world with Russell Westbrook who is 100000 times better than Schroder? If you believed we could've won the championship with freaking Schroder as our starting point guard, then you should have no problem believing Russell Westbrook can win with this roster. Compare the stats people, Westbrook and Schroder are very similar except Russell Westbrook backs up his talk, while Youtuber just talks nonsense. I'm sure these are also the same people that hated the Rondo acquisition and probably said it wouldn't work.

When the Lakers acquired Schroder, they gave up only Danny Green who struggled in the recent playoffs, not 3 players and a pretty good 22nd pick. Dennis just averaged 19 pts with a remarkable 38.5 3pt% at 57 TS%. Some were foolishly predicting that he would continue to shoot great next to Lebron but I for one was not buying it even though I was impressed with his defense and ability to attack and get to the line.
Durant abandons Westbrook at OKC, then he reunites with Harden from OKC to Houston. Rockets decided after just one year that they would rather get an overpriced John Wall who hasn't played enough good basketball the past 3 years just to get rid of Russell.
Westbrook teams up with a superstar Beal who was on fire, scoring 31pts per game. They also have a legit shooter Bertans and yet, the team won just 34 and lost 38 games in the weak East where still qualified for the playoffs.
Westbrook is a great passer and rebounder, who can attack the basket and create numerous scoring opportunities for himself and others. Some fans here think Lebron just needs a reliable shooter and not a dynamic scorer but I disagree. He needed Wade and Kyrie to help create and now he needs another creator more that he is getting old. Westbrook unfortunately doesn't fill up a great need to space the floor but if AD can play center more and Rob finds 2 good shooters, I think it would help.

[danfantastk32]

His Rocket stint is a very bad example to justify his cons.

Fair point.

[loveshaq786]

The whole thing with Westbrook versus Dennis Schroeder, is that we could have got buddy and Ingles or DeRozan.

Just because Anthony Davis and LeBron had dinnee with him doesn't mean that we had to overpay for him. He doesn't have much value in the league, and we are the idiots that called first. All Westbrook had to do after that dinner was request a trade publicly and his value would have been shot because he has done this multiple times before. That's how this should have played out, not by giving our first round pick.

Schroeder, harrell kcp for westbrook

KuZ for Ingles

Isiah jackson on our squad....

That's how everything should have played out... So yes, I'm frustrated.