hyberx wrote:LavieG wrote:hyberx wrote:Even if true, nothing wrong with this at all. Players talk all the time. Russ is a walking triple-double who never wins on his own (just like LeBron), so good luck to them.
Name one, only one player that could win or ever did win a ring all by himself.
Anyhow, I do not think that Westbrook will seriously help winning another Championship.
Lakers should have put more on the table trying to get Lillard.
The point is winning with his own team that builds around him, not teaming up with two more franchise players to form a super team. MJ did it, Curry did it, Giannis did it, LeBron never did.
LeBron did it. In Cleveland, that team was garbage without LeBron. How many years in a row did they get the number 1 pick? Kyrie was fun to watch, but couldn't lead the team anywhere, not even to the playoffs.
LeBron also took a team with Mo Will, Delonte West and Big Z to the Finals. Took the Warriors to 6 games when both Love and Kyrie were out. Won a championship with completely different types of players as his Robin with DWade, Kyrie and AD. Different coaches and systems to boot. MJ and Kobe couldn't do it without Phil Jackson. They didn't even get close without Phil.
Curry couldn't even get his team to the playoffs without Klay. He's a great player, but not in the same conversation.
Giannis and his Bucks along with the Suns had the perfect storm of injuries to the Sixers, Nets, Lakers, Clippers and Nuggets to allow them to make it to the Finals. Giannis could, down the line, be in the greatest of all time convo after a few more championships, but no there yet. Best player in the league now, with LeBron and KD older, maybe, but even that he will have to prove again next year to earn that title after winning back to back.
Some teams have to build, the hard way, to get there. Drafting players and hoping it works out. But even then, those team need the right players around their picks who turn to superstars. For your example, the Bucks, without Jrue and Tucker I don't see them going deep last season.
Many superstars moved and won championships, that doesn't make them any more or less great. Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, KG, etc.