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2021 Offseason & Offseason Grades

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Offseason grade

A
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B
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C
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D
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#701 » by queridiculo » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:18 pm

In terms of top end talent the Wizards have obviously taken a dive with Westbrook out of the picture, but if you look at the roster right now the one thing you've got to like is that Sheppard has managed to accumulate a team that's 10 deep in terms of solid contributors and they've got quite a bit of versatility to go in a number of directions night in and night out.

How that's going to translate into on-court production remains to be seen, but what I like is that with the money Washington has saved in the Lakers trade they should be able to make full use of all of their exceptions without dipping into the luxury tax.

Considering how shallow this roster was just last year that's a good step in the right direction.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#703 » by 80sballboy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:45 pm

Jerry Brewer on holding onto Beal
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/07/30/bradley-beal-washington-wizards-rebuild/

For a franchise adamant about not rebuilding, the Wizards are shuffling like a rebuilding team anyway.


What’s the endgame here? They’re living year to year now. They’re trying to hold onto to Beal because, to them, starting over means they’d just be right back in the market for a talent of his caliber. But the Wizards aren’t operating from a position of power. Reports suggest Beal’s loyalty to the Wizards is starting to wane. He hasn’t requested a trade, but if he already has considered it, imagine where his head might be next season if the Wizards don’t show marked improvement.

And how can they be significantly better? The Wizards have one all-star, a deeper bench and a better ensemble of shooters. Their defensive deficiencies remain, however, and this roster may exacerbate those problems in a way that new coach Wes Unseld Jr. won’t be able to mask. And they enter free agency and trade season desperate for a legitimate starting point guard.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#704 » by 80sballboy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:47 pm

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#705 » by 80sballboy » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:21 pm

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/lonzo-ball-derrick-rose-headline-free-agent-pg-options-wizards
Lonzo Ball

2020-21 stats: 55 G, 31.8 mpg, 14.6 ppg, 5.7 apg, 4.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 41.4% FG (5.3/12.7), 37.8% 3PT (3.1/8.3), 78.1 FT%

This could be a fairly big reach depending on his asking price, and he is also a restricted free agent. But if the Wizards could somehow swing getting him, he would be an ideal fit for their newly-renovated roster. Ball, still only 23, does a lot of things that would help. He can run an offense, is a good rebounder for his position and can defend. He's also a much better shooter than many likely realize, as he's improved his three-point shooting and effective field goal percentage each year he's been in the league.

Last season with the Pelicans, Ball shot 37.8% from three on 8.3 attempts per game. He made 3.1 threes per game, more than any Wizards player did last year. Ball would help tie together what the Wizards already have, but it also seems likely he will be out of their price range, as he made $11 million last year and could earn much more than that on his next deal.

Derrick Rose

2020-21 stats: 50 G, 25.6 mpg, 14.7 ppg, 4.2 apg, 2.6 rpg, 1.0 spg, 47.0% FG (5.7/12.2), 38.8% 3PT (1.0/2.6), 86.6 FT%

Rose would be a more realistic option than Ball, as he made $7.5 million last season and will turn 33 before the next one begins. He would give the Wizards someone who can penetrate off the dribble and open the offense up for their shooters. Last season, he played well for a Knicks team that made the playoffs while shooting a career-best 38.8% from three.

If Rose played for the Wizards, it would complete the triumvirate of super athletic point guards from the previous generation of NBA stars. They had Wall and Westbrook, while Rose was similarly electric in his prime. Though he isn't the MVP he used to be, Rose is still an effective player. The Wizards have also shown some interest in him in the past.

Reggie Jackson

2020-21 stats: 67 G, 23.0 mpg, 10.7 ppg, 3.1 apg, 2.9 rpg, 0.6 spg, 45.0% FG (3.9/8.7), 43.3% 3PT (1.8/4.2), 81.7 FT%

After a huge postseason for the Clippers, Jackson figures to get a raise from the $2.3 million he made last year, but whether it will be too much for the Wizards to handle is difficult to ascertain. If they can afford him, he would make sense as a willing defender who has developed into a reliable three-point shooter. Jackson shot a career-best 43.3% from three last season and with decent volume at 4.2 attempts per game.

Jackson would also bring playoff experience and a veteran steadiness to the team. He has never been a high assists guy, but perhaps could be in the Wizards' offense alongside Bradley Beal. Jackson also started most games for the Clippers last season and they made it all the way to the conference finals. You can win with him.

Patty Mills

2020-21 stats: 68 G, 24.8 mpg, 10.8 ppg, 2.4 apg, 1.7 rpg, 0.6 spg, 41.2% FG (3.7/9.0), 37.5% 3PT (2.4/6.3), 91.0 FT%

Mills made $13.5 million last season and has played for the Spurs since 2011, so neither him leaving or signing within the Wizards' budget are guaranteed. But he turns 33 right after free agency and the last contract he signed was when he was 28. If the price does come down, Mills would give the Wizards another shooter and would bring some speed to their offense. He's a career 38.8% shooter from three, last year knocking down 37.5% with excellent volume at 6.3 attempts per game.

Mills, though, isn't much of a distributor and has never been a full-time starter. The most he's ever started in a season is 36 games back in 2017-18 and his second-most starts in a given season is eight. So, maybe Mills would be best in a platoon situation with Aaron Holiday or on a roster where Beal is the primary ball-handler like James Harden was in Houston. But if the Wizards want to double-down on shooting, Mills could help.

Spencer Dinwiddie

2020-21 stats: 3 G, 21.3 mpg, 6.7 ppg, 3.0 apg, 4.3 rpg, 0.7 spg, 37.5% FG (2.0/5.3), 28.6% 3PT (0.7/2.3), 1.000 FT%

This possibility is complicated by the fact Dinwiddie suffered a partially torn ACL in late December, the same injury Thomas Bryant is coming back from. Bryant is not expected to be ready when the season begins, so if Dinwiddie is in the same boat, that would mean two rotation players - possibly starters - not being in the lineup to start out the year. Dinwiddie was also not an efficient shooter even when healthy.

That said, Dinwiddie would present a potentially high reward for the price if he's healthy and the Wizards could see a fit with the rest of their personnel. Two seasons ago, he was averaging 20.7 points and 6.8 assists per game. Those numbers were countered with a 41.5 field goal percentage and 30.8% clip from three, but he's also a solid defensive player and the hard-working type that helped build the Brooklyn Nets' culture. Signing him would be risky, but you could see the reasoning.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#706 » by 80sballboy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:35 am

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Announced that he will prepare for the 2021 NBA Draft by training with Frank Matrisciano at Chameleon BX’s 12-month program [started in June 2020]…Was named MaxPreps National Freshman of the Year in 2017 while attending Moreau Catholic in Hayward, CA... Walker played his junior year at Hillcrest Prep in Arizona before opting to concentrate on academics his senior year to graduate early…Amassed more than 18 offers from Division I schools with elite basketball programs, including Arizona State, Arkansas, Cal, St. Mary’s, Western Kentucky, Illinois, Kansas, LSU, Memphis, Michigan, Nevada, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, and UCLA…On his decision to forgo college, “The path to the NBA has evolved the past few years. I’ve come to the conclusion in order to get truly prepared to compete at the highest level for a grueling 82-game season will require personalized physical and mental preparation; with an emphasis on a enjoying a long and healthy career...I believe the Chameleon BX program provides the kind of personalized attention I’m seeking.”…Played for Dream Vision in the Gauntlet League (2019), where he averaged 15.1 points, 3.0 rebounds and 3.4 assists in 12 games…During the 2018-19 season with Hillcrest Prep High School, averaged 30.2 points, 11.0 rebounds and 5.9 assists in 24 games.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#707 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:21 am

KYRiE IS WITH THE WIZARDS!!!

Oh, Kyree as in Walker. I see. A bit of a come down.

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#708 » by J-Ves » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:31 am

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this is a silly tweet. He's a 3nd catch and shoot guy of course he doesn't turn it over
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#709 » by 80sballboy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:18 am

J-Ves wrote:
80sballboy wrote:
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this is a silly tweet. He's a 3nd catch and shoot guy of course he doesn't turn it over


It was a reach on a slow news day, but shows you he knows his role. Not going to try and create.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#710 » by payitforward » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:48 am

nate33 wrote:I value Hachimura.... He is ...truly full-sized ...like Giannis, or Davis, or even guys like Collins or Kawhi.

NatP4 wrote:I agree with all of that,...

...going from a D+ grade to a C- grade ...on your way to Phi Beta Kappa... Rui is playing well at the Olympics.

That "proves" something... great....

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#711 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:42 am

payitforward wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:I value Hachimura much higher than Avdija at this point, particularly after his playoffs and his Olympics performance. His 3-point shot is coming around. If his recent shooting is not a fluke, he'll be a pretty good 2-way starter going forward - a guy who can stay on the floor in a playoff game.

He is also our only truly full-sized power forward. All the other guys, Avdija, Bertans, Kuzma, don't have the strength to contend with the bigger PF's in the league like Giannis, or Davis, or even guys like Collins or Kawhi.


I agree with all of that, Hachimura has a unique role on this team, but also has a full 3 years on Avdija. We only saw a small glimpse of what Avdija is capable of last year. I’m not moving him in a deal like this one. White is a really good player, and I think the value is fair, but Avdija is the biggest core piece to the future on the current roster.

Hopefully Sheppard can get creative on some kind of deal for a quality starting PG that only costs marginal pieces like Bryant or Bertans. He did just get us 2 quality role players and a 1st round pick for a 33 year old on one of the worst contracts in the league.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the above is mostly invented.

Anyone can have any personal preference he likes for one player over another, but nate's assessment of Rui Hachimura is subjective. It has no genuine basis in reality. To put it simply, neither nate nor any other convinced Rui-ideologue ever quotes anything Rui does at its actual rate & compares it to the equivalent rate by other NBA players. Only exceptions are worth pointing at; only improvements are worth taking note of.

Thus, to take the most obvious example, Rui's substantially sub-par 3 pt. % on way fewer than average attempts is quoted as an example of him being good not of him being bad. Why? Because it rose somewhat from the utterly horrible level of his rookie year. As if going from a D+ grade to a C- grade meant you were on your way to Phi Beta Kappa. Meanwhile, the fact that his FT% declined is not worthy of mention. Ditto for the decline in free throw rate, the decline in his block %, his defensive rebounding %, his offensive rebounding %. The decline in his assist rate. The decline in block %. The increase in his turnover % -- & all this on somewhat reduced usage.

TBH, even to look at these things, even to think that they are worth taking note of, is to show that you're a Rui-hater: which means of course that the facts you cite are irrelevant. Go figure....

All that said, Rui is still young. He's only logged 3000+ NBA minutes. That's not a trivial number, certainly, but it doesn't suffice to make a final judgment on him. He still has a chance to be good. Indeed, this is a big year for him, one in which he needs to show major improvement, & I hope he will.

Moreover, there are reasons to hope that he can & will get better. As nate notes above, Rui was much better in our play-in & playoff games than in the season. If he continues at that level, or near that level, that will be what establishes him as a good player.

To date, however, he has been a significant disappointment overall -- despite repeated attempts to frame matters to make it look the opposite. In fact, Rui scores fewer points than average for an NBA PF, & his scoring is at a lower level of effectiveness than average. He also gets fewer defensive rebounds than an average PF -- & way fewer offensive rebounds than average to boot.

(Btw, the fact that PFs these days get fewer rebounds than they used to is irrelevant to assessing Rui's rebounding. He is below current average. Below average is below average -- period.)

Of course, as I say, mentioning these facts gets a person called a "Rui-hater" -- as if facts either hate or love. As if somehow he doesn't need to produce at a high level to be good.

But... he does. & if he does, regularly over time, he will be a good player. & if he doesn't... he won't be. That simple, empirical statement of fact is simply not the way nate & others want to talk about Rui.

You can be sure that the response to all the above will be to point out that Rui is playing well at the Olympics. That "proves" something. & the fact that I couldn't care less what he's doing at the Olympics will prove that I "hate" Rui. But, of course I don't -- he's a great kid, & I want him to succeed. In the NBA.

Hell, I'll say the same about Deni. He didn't have a good rookie year; he had a bad rookie year. He has the advantage over Rui of being much younger. But, being younger than Rui doesn't mean Deni will become a good NBA player. So far, neither of them have been good. Hope they both will be -- & soon!


Geezus Louisus, anyone that doesn’t agree to your parameters on how players should be evaluated is subjected to these drawn out, pithy responses. It then morphs into a never ending circular routine of passive aggressive pouting and belittling.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#712 » by nate33 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:01 pm

payitforward wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
nate33 wrote:I value Hachimura much higher than Avdija at this point, particularly after his playoffs and his Olympics performance. His 3-point shot is coming around. If his recent shooting is not a fluke, he'll be a pretty good 2-way starter going forward - a guy who can stay on the floor in a playoff game.

He is also our only truly full-sized power forward. All the other guys, Avdija, Bertans, Kuzma, don't have the strength to contend with the bigger PF's in the league like Giannis, or Davis, or even guys like Collins or Kawhi.


I agree with all of that, Hachimura has a unique role on this team, but also has a full 3 years on Avdija. We only saw a small glimpse of what Avdija is capable of last year. I’m not moving him in a deal like this one. White is a really good player, and I think the value is fair, but Avdija is the biggest core piece to the future on the current roster.

Hopefully Sheppard can get creative on some kind of deal for a quality starting PG that only costs marginal pieces like Bryant or Bertans. He did just get us 2 quality role players and a 1st round pick for a 33 year old on one of the worst contracts in the league.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the above is mostly invented.

Anyone can have any personal preference he likes for one player over another, but nate's assessment of Rui Hachimura is subjective. It has no genuine basis in reality. To put it simply, neither nate nor any other convinced Rui-ideologue ever quotes anything Rui does at its actual rate & compares it to the equivalent rate by other NBA players. Only exceptions are worth pointing at; only improvements are worth taking note of.

Thus, to take the most obvious example, Rui's substantially sub-par 3 pt. % on way fewer than average attempts is quoted as an example of him being good not of him being bad. Why? Because it rose somewhat from the utterly horrible level of his rookie year. As if going from a D+ grade to a C- grade meant you were on your way to Phi Beta Kappa. Meanwhile, the fact that his FT% declined is not worthy of mention. Ditto for the decline in free throw rate, the decline in his block %, his defensive rebounding %, his offensive rebounding %. The decline in his assist rate. The decline in block %. The increase in his turnover % -- & all this on somewhat reduced usage.

TBH, even to look at these things, even to think that they are worth taking note of, is to show that you're a Rui-hater: which means of course that the facts you cite are irrelevant. Go figure....

All that said, Rui is still young. He's only logged 3000+ NBA minutes. That's not a trivial number, certainly, but it doesn't suffice to make a final judgment on him. He still has a chance to be good. Indeed, this is a big year for him, one in which he needs to show major improvement, & I hope he will.

Moreover, there are reasons to hope that he can & will get better. As nate notes above, Rui was much better in our play-in & playoff games than in the season. If he continues at that level, or near that level, that will be what establishes him as a good player.

To date, however, he has been a significant disappointment overall -- despite repeated attempts to frame matters to make it look the opposite. In fact, Rui scores fewer points than average for an NBA PF, & his scoring is at a lower level of effectiveness than average. He also gets fewer defensive rebounds than an average PF -- & way fewer offensive rebounds than average to boot.

(Btw, the fact that PFs these days get fewer rebounds than they used to is irrelevant to assessing Rui's rebounding. He is below current average. Below average is below average -- period.)

Of course, as I say, mentioning these facts gets a person called a "Rui-hater" -- as if facts either hate or love. As if somehow he doesn't need to produce at a high level to be good.

But... he does. & if he does, regularly over time, he will be a good player. & if he doesn't... he won't be. That simple, empirical statement of fact is simply not the way nate & others want to talk about Rui.

You can be sure that the response to all the above will be to point out that Rui is playing well at the Olympics. That "proves" something. & the fact that I couldn't care less what he's doing at the Olympics will prove that I "hate" Rui. But, of course I don't -- he's a great kid, & I want him to succeed. In the NBA.

Hell, I'll say the same about Deni. He didn't have a good rookie year; he had a bad rookie year. He has the advantage over Rui of being much younger. But, being younger than Rui doesn't mean Deni will become a good NBA player. So far, neither of them have been good. Hope they both will be -- & soon!

This really is exhausting, PIF. Can you please come up with a new schtick?
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#713 » by payitforward » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:29 pm

LOL -- why did I write that post? It's like imagining there's something you can do to prove to devout Catholics that the pope isn't infallible!

My apologies. I'm going to fix the post.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#714 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:53 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
payitforward wrote:
NatP4 wrote:
I agree with all of that, Hachimura has a unique role on this team, but also has a full 3 years on Avdija. We only saw a small glimpse of what Avdija is capable of last year. I’m not moving him in a deal like this one. White is a really good player, and I think the value is fair, but Avdija is the biggest core piece to the future on the current roster.

Hopefully Sheppard can get creative on some kind of deal for a quality starting PG that only costs marginal pieces like Bryant or Bertans. He did just get us 2 quality role players and a 1st round pick for a 33 year old on one of the worst contracts in the league.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the above is mostly invented.

Anyone can have any personal preference he likes for one player over another, but nate's assessment of Rui Hachimura is subjective. It has no genuine basis in reality. To put it simply, neither nate nor any other convinced Rui-ideologue ever quotes anything Rui does at its actual rate & compares it to the equivalent rate by other NBA players. Only exceptions are worth pointing at; only improvements are worth taking note of.

Thus, to take the most obvious example, Rui's substantially sub-par 3 pt. % on way fewer than average attempts is quoted as an example of him being good not of him being bad. Why? Because it rose somewhat from the utterly horrible level of his rookie year. As if going from a D+ grade to a C- grade meant you were on your way to Phi Beta Kappa. Meanwhile, the fact that his FT% declined is not worthy of mention. Ditto for the decline in free throw rate, the decline in his block %, his defensive rebounding %, his offensive rebounding %. The decline in his assist rate. The decline in block %. The increase in his turnover % -- & all this on somewhat reduced usage.

TBH, even to look at these things, even to think that they are worth taking note of, is to show that you're a Rui-hater: which means of course that the facts you cite are irrelevant. Go figure....

All that said, Rui is still young. He's only logged 3000+ NBA minutes. That's not a trivial number, certainly, but it doesn't suffice to make a final judgment on him. He still has a chance to be good. Indeed, this is a big year for him, one in which he needs to show major improvement, & I hope he will.

Moreover, there are reasons to hope that he can & will get better. As nate notes above, Rui was much better in our play-in & playoff games than in the season. If he continues at that level, or near that level, that will be what establishes him as a good player.

To date, however, he has been a significant disappointment overall -- despite repeated attempts to frame matters to make it look the opposite. In fact, Rui scores fewer points than average for an NBA PF, & his scoring is at a lower level of effectiveness than average. He also gets fewer defensive rebounds than an average PF -- & way fewer offensive rebounds than average to boot.

(Btw, the fact that PFs these days get fewer rebounds than they used to is irrelevant to assessing Rui's rebounding. He is below current average. Below average is below average -- period.)

Of course, as I say, mentioning these facts gets a person called a "Rui-hater" -- as if facts either hate or love. As if somehow he doesn't need to produce at a high level to be good.

But... he does. & if he does, regularly over time, he will be a good player. & if he doesn't... he won't be. That simple, empirical statement of fact is simply not the way nate & others want to talk about Rui.

You can be sure that the response to all the above will be to point out that Rui is playing well at the Olympics. That "proves" something. & the fact that I couldn't care less what he's doing at the Olympics will prove that I "hate" Rui. But, of course I don't -- he's a great kid, & I want him to succeed. In the NBA.

Hell, I'll say the same about Deni. He didn't have a good rookie year; he had a bad rookie year. He has the advantage over Rui of being much younger. But, being younger than Rui doesn't mean Deni will become a good NBA player. So far, neither of them have been good. Hope they both will be -- & soon!


Geezus Louisus, anyone that doesn’t agree to your parameters on how players should be evaluated is subjected to these drawn out, pithy responses. It then morphs into a never ending circular routine of passive aggressive pouting and belittling.


I like pif’s “pithy”.

COSC, I have never told you that I really like your screen name. I always think about the last guy to piss off is the crazy one. Because if you do, you really can’t figure out what the hell they’re thinking and you really just don’t know. And people who try to evaluate the acts of irrational or crazy it’s just such a waste of time…

I’m just eating popcorn in the middle of you guy’s dialogue.

I have enjoyed a lot of back-and-forths with other people “beefing” on this thread and I’m loving it because sometimes I think I’m totally out of my mind but I know I’m not. Not totally. :-)

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#715 » by queridiculo » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:22 pm

Hollinger is in love with what Sheppard has done for the Wizards.

https://theathletic.com/2741454/2021/07/30/with-russell-westbrook-trade-lakers-went-hollywood-while-wizards-liberated-their-future-hollinger/

Hollinger wrote:You did it, Washington.

Somehow, some way, you got off John Wall’s contract, and along the way, some stuff happened that actually helped your team.

Thursday’s trade agreement to send Russell Westbrook to the Lakers finished the job started a year ago with the Wall trade to Houston and sets up the Wizards to have the flexibility to put a real team around Bradley Beal.

Amazingly, the final cost of getting off one of the worst contract extensions in league annals was a trade of Washington’s 2023 or 2024 first-rounder, most likely, for the Lakers’ first in 2022, a year of Westbrook and three middling players on halfway decent contracts who won’t negatively impact the Wizards’ short-term or long-term picture.

This is a minor miracle, to put it lightly, a liberation day for the Washington franchise. Is it possible Washington’s motto for the last 20 years — life, liberty and the pursuit of the eighth seed — can now pivot to loftier goals? Are the Wizards set up to actually become (gasp) good in two or three years?

...

The lingering question, of course, is how this impacts Beal’s desire to stay in Washington beyond this season, but I have to think if he’s looking at the time frame of his next contract, he should be very encouraged by this trade. And if for some reason he’s not, the Wizards improved their post-Beal future just as much.

...
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#716 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm

queridiculo wrote:Hollinger is in love with what Sheppard has done for the Wizards.

https://theathletic.com/2741454/2021/07/30/with-russell-westbrook-trade-lakers-went-hollywood-while-wizards-liberated-their-future-hollinger/

Hollinger wrote:You did it, Washington.

Somehow, some way, you got off John Wall’s contract, and along the way, some stuff happened that actually helped your team.

Thursday’s trade agreement to send Russell Westbrook to the Lakers finished the job started a year ago with the Wall trade to Houston and sets up the Wizards to have the flexibility to put a real team around Bradley Beal.

Amazingly, the final cost of getting off one of the worst contract extensions in league annals was a trade of Washington’s 2023 or 2024 first-rounder, most likely, for the Lakers’ first in 2022, a year of Westbrook and three middling players on halfway decent contracts who won’t negatively impact the Wizards’ short-term or long-term picture.

This is a minor miracle, to put it lightly, a liberation day for the Washington franchise. Is it possible Washington’s motto for the last 20 years — life, liberty and the pursuit of the eighth seed — can now pivot to loftier goals? Are the Wizards set up to actually become (gasp) good in two or three years?

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The lingering question, of course, is how this impacts Beal’s desire to stay in Washington beyond this season, but I have to think if he’s looking at the time frame of his next contract, he should be very encouraged by this trade. And if for some reason he’s not, the Wizards improved their post-Beal future just as much.

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I am too. At one point on draft night I became overwhelmed with emotion and I literally just about cried. Tommy Shepherd he has just **** done it

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#717 » by WallToWall » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:56 pm

queridiculo wrote:Hollinger is in love with what Sheppard has done for the Wizards.

https://theathletic.com/2741454/2021/07/30/with-russell-westbrook-trade-lakers-went-hollywood-while-wizards-liberated-their-future-hollinger/

Hollinger wrote:You did it, Washington.

Somehow, some way, you got off John Wall’s contract, and along the way, some stuff happened that actually helped your team.

Thursday’s trade agreement to send Russell Westbrook to the Lakers finished the job started a year ago with the Wall trade to Houston and sets up the Wizards to have the flexibility to put a real team around Bradley Beal.

Amazingly, the final cost of getting off one of the worst contract extensions in league annals was a trade of Washington’s 2023 or 2024 first-rounder, most likely, for the Lakers’ first in 2022, a year of Westbrook and three middling players on halfway decent contracts who won’t negatively impact the Wizards’ short-term or long-term picture.

This is a minor miracle, to put it lightly, a liberation day for the Washington franchise. Is it possible Washington’s motto for the last 20 years — life, liberty and the pursuit of the eighth seed — can now pivot to loftier goals? Are the Wizards set up to actually become (gasp) good in two or three years?

...

The lingering question, of course, is how this impacts Beal’s desire to stay in Washington beyond this season, but I have to think if he’s looking at the time frame of his next contract, he should be very encouraged by this trade. And if for some reason he’s not, the Wizards improved their post-Beal future just as much.

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That is a minor miracle. I don’t think any other GM could have done a better job in handling the Wall contract, and subsequent moves.
It’s not over. If Tommy can turn those middling players into 2nd round picks (I don’t think that is out of the question), then we would have actually come out in a favorable position. That would be a miracle.
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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#718 » by FAH1223 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:40 pm

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Re: 2021 Offseason 

Post#719 » by queridiculo » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm

The Spurs were rumored to be interested in Kuzma, what are the chances the Wizards can involve him in a sign and trade for Patty Mills?
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Post#720 » by AFM » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:57 pm

Damn, can’t believe the Wizards social media intern wasn’t aware of the front office’s future moves.

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