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Re: Cade presser (live) 

Post#41 » by ComboGuardCity » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:04 am

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Post#42 » by zeebneeb » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:30 am

Cade is a legit 6'7 6'8. Silver is 6'3 and Green is absolutely not 6'5.
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Post#43 » by rmfc » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:39 am

Scout Taron wrote:Gores loves to talk

The dude doesn't know when to stop. sheesh
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Post#44 » by A_dub06 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:46 am

I agree with the crowd that thinks the height in shoes is stupid and actually does matter when it comes to the draft. When a player has been evaluated especially in college, and a player like Cade is listed at 6’8 things seem to be overlooked such as his average athleticism and bounce because the thought is that his height/length can make up for that. The NBA is significantly more athletic and longer than college, so if said player is shorter than actually listed the athletic limitations become magnified thus directly lowering his potential as a player in the league.

I’m not at all saying Cade going to bust because he may be 2 inches shorter than advertised, but some of the shine about Cunningham was that he could be a capable defender 1-4 and score in every position. Surely people can acknowledge the difficulty in meeting those expectations would increase given his lack of athleticism with regard to losing 2 inches in height?
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Post#45 » by DetroitSho » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:08 am

A_dub06 wrote:I agree with the crowd that thinks the height in shoes is stupid and actually does matter when it comes to the draft. When a player has been evaluated especially in college, and a player like Cade is listed at 6’8 things seem to be overlooked such as his average athleticism and bounce because the thought is that his height/length can make up for that. The NBA is significantly more athletic and longer than college, so if said player is shorter than actually listed the athletic limitations become magnified thus directly lowering his potential as a player in the league.

I’m not at all saying Cade going to bust because he may be 2 inches shorter than advertised, but some of the shine about Cunningham was that he could be a capable defender 1-4 and score in every position. Surely people can acknowledge the difficulty in meeting those expectations would increase given his lack of athleticism with regard to losing 2 inches in height?
Nope because his length doesn't change just because he's 6'6. Now if they lied about his wingspan and standing reach, that's where it changes his ability to disrupt passing lanes or finish over guys.

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Re: Cade presser (live) 

Post#46 » by A_dub06 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 am

DetroitSho wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:I agree with the crowd that thinks the height in shoes is stupid and actually does matter when it comes to the draft. When a player has been evaluated especially in college, and a player like Cade is listed at 6’8 things seem to be overlooked such as his average athleticism and bounce because the thought is that his height/length can make up for that. The NBA is significantly more athletic and longer than college, so if said player is shorter than actually listed the athletic limitations become magnified thus directly lowering his potential as a player in the league.

I’m not at all saying Cade going to bust because he may be 2 inches shorter than advertised, but some of the shine about Cunningham was that he could be a capable defender 1-4 and score in every position. Surely people can acknowledge the difficulty in meeting those expectations would increase given his lack of athleticism with regard to losing 2 inches in height?
Nope because his length doesn't change just because he's 6'6. Now if they lied about his wingspan and standing reach, that's where it changes his ability to disrupt passing lanes or finish over guys.

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I k so the size of the soles in your shoes can increase or decrease your height, but if they are going to manipulate that can we be 100% sure his wingspan is what it’s listed? Has it been independently verified?
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Post#47 » by DetroitSho » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:55 am

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A_dub06 wrote:I agree with the crowd that thinks the height in shoes is stupid and actually does matter when it comes to the draft. When a player has been evaluated especially in college, and a player like Cade is listed at 6’8 things seem to be overlooked such as his average athleticism and bounce because the thought is that his height/length can make up for that. The NBA is significantly more athletic and longer than college, so if said player is shorter than actually listed the athletic limitations become magnified thus directly lowering his potential as a player in the league.

I’m not at all saying Cade going to bust because he may be 2 inches shorter than advertised, but some of the shine about Cunningham was that he could be a capable defender 1-4 and score in every position. Surely people can acknowledge the difficulty in meeting those expectations would increase given his lack of athleticism with regard to losing 2 inches in height?
Nope because his length doesn't change just because he's 6'6. Now if they lied about his wingspan and standing reach, that's where it changes his ability to disrupt passing lanes or finish over guys.

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I k so the size of the soles in your shoes can increase or decrease your height, but if they are going to manipulate that can we be 100% sure his wingspan is what it’s listed? Has it been independently verified?
What does height (or the manipulation thereof) have to do with wingspan? It's a finger tip to finger tip measurement.

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Post#48 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:39 am

A_dub06 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:I agree with the crowd that thinks the height in shoes is stupid and actually does matter when it comes to the draft. When a player has been evaluated especially in college, and a player like Cade is listed at 6’8 things seem to be overlooked such as his average athleticism and bounce because the thought is that his height/length can make up for that. The NBA is significantly more athletic and longer than college, so if said player is shorter than actually listed the athletic limitations become magnified thus directly lowering his potential as a player in the league.

I’m not at all saying Cade going to bust because he may be 2 inches shorter than advertised, but some of the shine about Cunningham was that he could be a capable defender 1-4 and score in every position. Surely people can acknowledge the difficulty in meeting those expectations would increase given his lack of athleticism with regard to losing 2 inches in height?
Nope because his length doesn't change just because he's 6'6. Now if they lied about his wingspan and standing reach, that's where it changes his ability to disrupt passing lanes or finish over guys.

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I k so the size of the soles in your shoes can increase or decrease your height, but if they are going to manipulate that can we be 100% sure his wingspan is what it’s listed? Has it been independently verified?


His wingspan has been measured 7'0.25" independently, whenever that last height without shoes measurement was taken, which was 6'5.5"-6'6" iirc. This was either in high school or for the u19 USA team so there is a chance he may have grown a tiny bit. If I had to take an estimated guess, the 6'7.5" measurement he had at OK state was actually his height in shoes, then rounded up to 6'8, which is the same way its done in the NBA. For all intents and purposes though, his 6'8 listing is still in line with other players who have a 6'8 measurement, who are usually 6'6 ish barefoot, so it doesn't really change my assessment of him in regards to his size, because I don't think any of the other players listed at 6'7-6'8 in the NBA are any taller than him.

Just from the eye test though, his wingspan is pretty clear, he has huge hands which are the usual indicators of a large wingspan/height ratio.

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Re: Cade presser (live) 

Post#49 » by Pharaoh » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:26 am

Kinda goes with the territory that every little will be the centre of attention at some point

Now he's drafted it's his height and length?

Ok

Let's assume that our organisation actually measured him and know what the results are. They drafted him anyway.

At his height/length he's been projected to be a 1 through 3 kind player and all those that state every kid can guard 1 through 4 is and has been assuming every single 4 on the floor is a athletic 3 point shooter with the mass of a 3. That's not actually the case though

Cade is a 1-3 & his most important skills should translate seamlessly to the league.

Personally can't wait for the games to begin so we can see all our kids get out there and get after it.

We went from a team almost completely devoid of young talent to overflowing in the space of 12 months

Thank you Troy Weaver!

Regardless of what happens in the next 2 years at least you brought us some hope

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Post#50 » by A_dub06 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:32 am

DetroitSho wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:Nope because his length doesn't change just because he's 6'6. Now if they lied about his wingspan and standing reach, that's where it changes his ability to disrupt passing lanes or finish over guys.

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I k so the size of the soles in your shoes can increase or decrease your height, but if they are going to manipulate that can we be 100% sure his wingspan is what it’s listed? Has it been independently verified?
What does height (or the manipulation thereof) have to do with wingspan? It's a finger tip to finger tip measurement.

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Because if a team is going to be so brazen and manipulate height they may as well do that with wingspan. Both physical attributes are considered significant positives so I would think they would try and manipulate everything they can. I wasn’t saying that’s the case with Cade, but I think it’s a legitimate question
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Post#51 » by 440BB » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:55 am

The Pistons met with Cunningham, had a workout, then drafted him. Although I could see a problem with published measurements if it's a player you've never seen in person, that's not the case here.

Teams rely on their own evaluations and scouting, not just claimed and potentially inflated numbers.

I don't think any size misconceptions existed for the Pistons decision makers. That's what's important.
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Post#52 » by flow » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:46 pm

Back to the press conference, it was embarrassing. The thing started 45 minutes late, yet they still couldn't make sure their zoom link worked? It was probably set to be the most widely attended pistons press opportunity since 2004, and they blew it.

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Post#53 » by BJK1 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:07 pm

Mike Schmitz from ESPN, who’s as dialed in to this stuff as anyone ever could be, emphasized on air that Cade is “every bit of 6’8”.” I’ve also heard him directly refer to Cade as having a wingspan of over 7’. There’s no reason for him to make that stuff up, though I’d assume he’s probably rounding up a bit.
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Post#54 » by DetroitSho » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:46 pm

A_dub06 wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:
I k so the size of the soles in your shoes can increase or decrease your height, but if they are going to manipulate that can we be 100% sure his wingspan is what it’s listed? Has it been independently verified?
What does height (or the manipulation thereof) have to do with wingspan? It's a finger tip to finger tip measurement.

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Because if a team is going to be so brazen and manipulate height they may as well do that with wingspan. Both physical attributes are considered significant positives so I would think they would try and manipulate everything they can. I wasn’t saying that’s the case with Cade, but I think it’s a legitimate question
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Post#55 » by DBC10 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:56 pm

flow wrote:Back to the press conference, it was embarrassing. The thing started 45 minutes late, yet they still couldn't make sure their zoom link worked? It was probably set to be the most widely attended pistons press opportunity since 2004, and they blew it.

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One poster here mentioned Gores being coked up and going on essentially a long ass monologue. Which I thought was funny and probably my personal highlight to this sad presser

It's comical how these orgs are so inept at times on the administrative end. I guess that's what happens when all of a sudden we get instant recognition and fame like this with the Cade pick. We're just not used to it yet
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Post#56 » by ComboGuardCity » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:39 pm

They didn’t even edit the YouTube video lol

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