Pistons Waive CoJo and Sirvydis

detroitKG · Post #1 » by **detroitKG** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:32 pm

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Liqourish · Post #2 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:35 pm

Not shocking. Weaver is cleaning house, forcing minutes to the young guys, and saving cap.

Laimbeer · Post #3 » by **Laimbeer** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:36 pm

No surprises here. The right moves.

7r5ur · Post #4 » by **7r5ur** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:40 pm

Kinda surprising to me. A part of me thought Casey would go to bat hard for bringing back CoJo.

I feel like this at least tentatively pencils Killian into the starting lineup, which I figured was about 50/50 before this.

Jerami and Jahlil are basically the last 2 vets on the team at the moment.

DetroitDon15 · Post #5 » by **DetroitDon15** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:45 pm

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detroitKG wrote:

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Terrible to trade Roby plus seconds for a guy who couldn’t play. Such a bad move. I really don’t understand why S needed to go. I guess that he was really that bad.

Liqourish · Post #6 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:49 pm

When they made an offer to bring back Frank Jackson, CoJo was done. Neither players are in long term plans for this team.

I still don’t think Weaver will make a big move in FA. He’s setting up for the max next year. This (and Plumlee deal) was done to force Casey into playing young guys and saving money.

K. Hayes/F. Jackson/S. Lee
C. Cunningham/H. Diallo
S. Bey/J. Jackson/I. Livers
J. Grant/S. Doumbouya
I. Stewart/T. Cook/L. Garza

NYPiston · Post #7 » by **NYPiston** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:59 pm

Liqourish wrote:When they made an offer to bring back Frank Jackson, CoJo was done. Neither players are in long term plans for this team.

I still don’t think Weaver will make a big move in FA. He’s setting up for the max next year. This (and Plumlee deal) was done to force Casey into playing young guys and saving money.

K. Hayes/F. Jackson/S. Lee
C. Cunningham/H. Diablo
S. Bey/J. Jackson/I. Livers
J. Grant/S. Doumbouya
I. Stewart/T. Cook/L. Garza

There's zero chance that Weaver makes no transactions the rest of the offseason and it's a mistake if they don't find a legit big to push Stewart. I'm a Stew fan but you can't just hand him the keys with a bunch of filler backing him up, he hasn't shown enough yet to earn that. I'd be shocked if Weaver doesn't spend on a center/power forward.
Actually, you forgot about Okafor but he also qualifies as filler.

I also think there's a decent chance that Josh Jackson is dealt, I always thought they would move on from one of Diallo, F. or J. Jackson. I think Josh is the odd man out.

Liqourish · Post #8 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:04 pm

I don’t see Okafor sticking around. He served his role in getting us the #1 pick. Now he can go also.

DBC10 · Post #9 » by **DBC10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:07 pm

NYPiston wrote:
Liqourish wrote:When they made an offer to bring back Frank Jackson, CoJo was done. Neither players are in long term plans for this team.

I still don’t think Weaver will make a big move in FA. He’s setting up for the max next year. This (and Plumlee deal) was done to force Casey into playing young guys and saving money.

K. Hayes/F. Jackson/S. Lee
C. Cunningham/H. Diablo
S. Bey/J. Jackson/I. Livers
J. Grant/S. Doumbouya
I. Stewart/T. Cook/L. Garza

There's zero chance that Weaver makes no transactions the rest of the offseason and it's a mistake if they don't find a legit big to push Stewart. I'm a Stew fan but you can't just hand him the keys with a bunch of filler backing him up, he hasn't shown enough yet to earn that. I'd be shocked if Weaver doesn't spend on a center/power forward.
Actually, you forgot about Okafor but he also qualifies as filler.

I also think there's a decent chance that Josh Jackson is dealt, I always thought they would move on from one of Diallo, F. or J. Jackson. I think Josh is the odd man out.

Yeah Stew is good but penciling him as our definitive starter is going to make us fairly thin at the front court. Especially since Stew is a fouling machine and if he has early foul trouble, that's a lot of load on Okafor and Cook to compensate. We're going to have some ugly rotations this season

Obe1ball · Post #10 » by **Obe1ball** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:07 pm

Liqourish wrote:When they made an offer to bring back Frank Jackson, CoJo was done. Neither players are in long term plans for this team.

I still don’t think Weaver will make a big move in FA. He’s setting up for the max next year. This (and Plumlee deal) was done to force Casey into playing young guys and saving money.

K. Hayes/F. Jackson/S. Lee
C. Cunningham/H. Diablo
S. Bey/J. Jackson/I. Livers
J. Grant/S. Doumbouya
I. Stewart/T. Cook/L. Garza

Who is this Diablo, ese?

Livers or Garza can go on a 2-way, leaves room for 1 FA. Yeah, save the space for taking some salary, in a trade. JJ & his expiring contract + capspace, could get someone decent.

chrbal · Post #11 » by **chrbal** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:09 pm

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detroitKG wrote:

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Terrible to trade Roby plus seconds for a guy who couldn’t play. Such a bad move. I really don’t understand why S needed to go. I guess that he was really that bad.

That was a full on favor to the stefanski family. Hence why Weaver got hired. I’d really like to know troys full on opinion on everything to do with the Deividas experience.

I’m honestly asking, is McGruder cut yet?

detroitKG · Post #12 » by **detroitKG** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:10 pm

chrbal wrote:
DetroitDon15 wrote:[code][/code]
detroitKG wrote:

Read on Twitter

Terrible to trade Roby plus seconds for a guy who couldn’t play. Such a bad move. I really don’t understand why S needed to go. I guess that he was really that bad.

That was a full on favor to the stefanski family. Hence why Weaver got hired. I’d really like to know troys full on opinion on everything to do with the Deividas experience.

I’m honestly asking, is McGruder cut yet?

Sounds like his decision date isn't until 8/15..but I would assume he'll also be gone.

Obe1ball · Post #13 » by **Obe1ball** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:10 pm

chrbal wrote:
DetroitDon15 wrote:[code][/code]
detroitKG wrote:

Read on Twitter

Terrible to trade Roby plus seconds for a guy who couldn’t play. Such a bad move. I really don’t understand why S needed to go. I guess that he was really that bad.

That was a full on favor to the stefanski family. Hence why Weaver got hired. I’d really like to know troys full on opinion on everything to do with the Deividas experience.

I’m honestly asking, is McGruder cut yet?

Must be a later date, for a decision to be made.

DBC10 · Post #14 » by **DBC10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:12 pm

chrbal wrote:
DetroitDon15 wrote:[code][/code]
detroitKG wrote:

Read on Twitter

Terrible to trade Roby plus seconds for a guy who couldn’t play. Such a bad move. I really don’t understand why S needed to go. I guess that he was really that bad.

That was a full on favor to the stefanski family. Hence why Weaver got hired. I’d really like to know troys full on opinion on everything to do with the Deividas experience.

I’m honestly asking, is McGruder cut yet?

I believe it was the Tellem family that got the favor since Michael Tellem (Sirvydis' agent) is Arn Tellem's son and he's an exec or whatever the hell with us.

Just a really dumb situation all around

Post #15 » by **Snakebites** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:15 pm

Yeah, the Sirvidas thing always smelled funny.

I'm glad the ties have been severed.

Cojo? Better than expected but he was never in the plans.

Kilo · Post #16 » by **Kilo** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:16 pm

Cook shouldn't make the team either. Opening up two roster spots before any trades. Okafor could just be cut as well if Garza not on a 2-way.

Liqourish · Post #17 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:17 pm

Obe1ball wrote:
Liqourish wrote:When they made an offer to bring back Frank Jackson, CoJo was done. Neither players are in long term plans for this team.

I still don’t think Weaver will make a big move in FA. He’s setting up for the max next year. This (and Plumlee deal) was done to force Casey into playing young guys and saving money.

K. Hayes/F. Jackson/S. Lee
C. Cunningham/H. Diablo
S. Bey/J. Jackson/I. Livers
J. Grant/S. Doumbouya
I. Stewart/T. Cook/L. Garza

Who is this Diablo, ese?

Good catch.

jakebernat · Post #18 » by **jakebernat** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:19 pm

Kilo wrote:Cook shouldn't make the team either. Opening up two roster spots before any trades. Okafor could just be cut as well if Garza not on a 2-way.

I actually like cook. He’s a low-maintenance, hard-working bench big who can give you a productive 10-15 minutes in a pinch. sekou and JJ are the guys I think are in weaver’s crosshairs next.

Liqourish · Post #19 » by **Liqourish** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:22 pm

jakebernat wrote:
Kilo wrote:Cook shouldn't make the team either. Opening up two roster spots before any trades. Okafor could just be cut as well if Garza not on a 2-way.

I actually like cook. He’s a low-maintenance, hard-working bench big who can give you a productive 10-15 minutes in a pinch. sekou and JJ are the guys I think are in weaver’s crosshairs next.

I think Cook can be that vet presence at C, and has history with Garza at Iowa.

I think Killian, JJ and Sekou could be on the cusp this year. But I’d give them extended looks to figure it out.

Detstones89 · Post #20 » by **Detstones89** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:23 pm

I hope we sign our FA’s and use the rest of the space for a trade this years FA market sucks.