Official Celtics 2021-22 Season Thread

TheBookOfIsaiah · Post #881 » by **TheBookOfIsaiah** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:55 am

Was listening to The Bill Simmons Podcast and he had Kevin O'Connor on. KOC said he has heard some Fournier to the Knicks rumors during draft night. Not looking good especially after the Richardson deal today.

Drax · Post #882 » by **Drax** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:41 am

So far i really like what Brad is doing, he might be flourishing in this new role.

He traded for players that have very defined roles without killing our cap space in the future. He created competion within the roster but everyone has a chance at minutes because they do very different things.

Has Brad read my new signature? He acts the way i hope he would.

FlatearthZorro · Post #883 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:44 am

TheBookOfIsaiah wrote:Was listening to The Bill Simmons Podcast and he had Kevin O'Connor on. KOC said he has heard some Fournier to the Knicks rumors during draft night. Not looking good especially after the Richardson deal today.

If Fournier gets 25 mils from the Knicks, so be it, but if it's 20, I think we should match that.

Curmudgeon · Post #884 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:12 pm

I wouldn't give Fournier anything close to 20M unless it was a one year deal. One trick pony. Josh Richardson does other things that Fournier does not do. It's pretty clear what Stevens and Udoka are after: defense.

sam_I_am · Post #885 » by **sam_I_am** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:21 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I wouldn't give Fournier anything close to 20M unless it was a one year deal. One trick pony. Josh Richardson does other things that Fournier does not do. It's pretty clear what Stevens and Udoka are after: defense.

I wanted to see more of Fournier. When he was good for us the offense looked like it could be special. However, when he couldn’t make a shot, his defensive deficiencies really stood out. It seemed like it had a lot to do with Covid and lack of time to mesh with team.

That said, Josh is a really good alternative if Fournier does leave in FA. He may also be inconsistent offensively but at least he can be part of strong defensive teams and he has the ability to get hot and win a quarter or two in a playoff serie. We haven’t had a veteran off the bench capable of that since Marcus Morris.

Curmudgeon · Post #886 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:02 pm

Is Bruno Fernando a Celtic?

cloverleaf · Post #887 » by **cloverleaf** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:15 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
TheBookOfIsaiah wrote:Was listening to The Bill Simmons Podcast and he had Kevin O'Connor on. KOC said he has heard some Fournier to the Knicks rumors during draft night. Not looking good especially after the Richardson deal today.

If Fournier gets 25 mils from the Knicks, so be it, but if it's 20, I think we should match that.

For how many years?

cloverleaf · Post #888 » by **cloverleaf** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:16 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Is Bruno Fernando a Celtic?

Apparently for now. Tacko's better than he is--don't see him staying.

Curmudgeon · Post #889 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:35 pm

Oh, Fernando is much better than Tacko. For starters, Bruno can run the floor and finish. I wonder if he will play Summer league.

Let's see if anyone will sign Tacko as a free agent or on a two way. If the Celtics bring him back, it must be to a full roster spot.

Post #890 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:50 pm

The Season hasn't even kicked over yet.
Brad is doing a whirlwind of things.

It's Dizzying.

Half-Full · Post #891 » by **Half-Full** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:16 pm

Some interesting speculation in this article:

"Meanwhile, there’s no guarantee that the Celtics will hang onto Dunn, according to Weiss, who says the former lottery pick could be flipped again. Weiss suggests that two viable options for dealing Dunn could be to the Cavaliers – along with one of the Celtics’ young players – in a deal for Larry Nance Jr., or to the Pelicans – with Marcus Smart – in a Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade."

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/07/celtics-rumors-richardson-trade-fournier-thompson-parker.html

Of the two listed potential trades involving Dunn, which do you prefer? The one that brings back Larry Nance, or Lonzo?

Post #892 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:44 pm

Half-Full wrote:Some interesting speculation in this article:

"Meanwhile, there’s no guarantee that the Celtics will hang onto Dunn, according to Weiss, who says the former lottery pick could be flipped again. Weiss suggests that two viable options for dealing Dunn could be to the Cavaliers – along with one of the Celtics’ young players – in a deal for Larry Nance Jr., or to the Pelicans – with Marcus Smart – in a Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade."

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/07/celtics-rumors-richardson-trade-fournier-thompson-parker.html

Of the two listed potential trades involving Dunn, which do you prefer? The one that brings back Larry Nance, or Lonzo?

I like the Larry Nance Jr one, a bit better.
Not really ready to give up Smart.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #893 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:03 pm

Pretty sure either deal would have to be folded into the ATL trade.. otherwise we can’t deal Dunn for …60(? at least)… days. Smart/Dunn would match Lonzo.. Dunn/Nesmith Nance?

Glenn McDonald · Post #894 » by **Glenn McDonald** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:20 pm

Spotrac still shows the Thompson/Dunn trade as “pending “, so, if accurate, the prospect of spinning off Dunn in an expansion of the trade still exists.

Post #895 » by **Parliament10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:21 pm

Glenn McDonald wrote:Spotrac still shows the Thompson/Dunn trade as “pending “, so, if accurate, the prospect of spinning off Dunn in an expansion of the trade still exists.

Yeah. I was noticing that the contract isn't finalized.

GoGreen · Post #896 » by **GoGreen** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:34 pm

I don't think any of this Ball stuff is legit. Doesn't seem like they want a big, long term contract

gdagod10 · Post #897 » by **gdagod10** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:43 pm

Certainly seems like Celtics are lining up to clear max cap space next off-season, or a potential mid season Beal trade. Either way I think the Marcus Smart chapter is coming to a close.

chrisab123 · Post #898 » by **chrisab123** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:46 pm

Half-Full wrote:Some interesting speculation in this article:

"Meanwhile, there’s no guarantee that the Celtics will hang onto Dunn, according to Weiss, who says the former lottery pick could be flipped again. Weiss suggests that two viable options for dealing Dunn could be to the Cavaliers – along with one of the Celtics’ young players – in a deal for Larry Nance Jr., or to the Pelicans – with Marcus Smart – in a Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade."

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/07/celtics-rumors-richardson-trade-fournier-thompson-parker.html

Of the two listed potential trades involving Dunn, which do you prefer? The one that brings back Larry Nance, or Lonzo?

I'd love to do the Lonzo for Smart deal but I'm guessing based on past history thats 100% not happening since the Celtics view Smart as pretty close to Tatum and Brown if not the same level.

CelticFaninLBC · Post #899 » by **CelticFaninLBC** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:49 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Half-Full wrote:Some interesting speculation in this article:

"Meanwhile, there’s no guarantee that the Celtics will hang onto Dunn, according to Weiss, who says the former lottery pick could be flipped again. Weiss suggests that two viable options for dealing Dunn could be to the Cavaliers – along with one of the Celtics’ young players – in a deal for Larry Nance Jr., or to the Pelicans – with Marcus Smart – in a Lonzo Ball sign-and-trade."

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/07/celtics-rumors-richardson-trade-fournier-thompson-parker.html

Of the two listed potential trades involving Dunn, which do you prefer? The one that brings back Larry Nance, or Lonzo?

I like the Larry Nance Jr one, a bit better.
Not really ready to give up Smart.

Cleveland was last in 3 point percentage, so am guessing they'd want Nesmith.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #900 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:56 pm

GoGreen wrote:I don't think any of this Ball stuff is legit. Doesn't seem like they want a big, long term contract

If they don’t pay Lonzo they have to make the same decision on Smart anyway