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Post#101 » by 7r5ur » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:42 am

flow wrote:Plumlee wasn't traded to force Casey not to play him. Please stop with that. Plumlee was never a Casey guy. He was Weaver's free agent acquisition. And there would be zero reason not to play him. He's invaluable to a young team, even if only in a reserve role. The trade has to be related to an impending free agent signing.

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That's not entirely true. Casey was the one who pushed to sign Plumlee.

https://www.audacy.com/971theticket/sports/detroit-pistons/pistons-committed-to-grant-plumlee-ahead-of-trade-deadline
"Coach Casey, this was his No. 1 guy that he wanted for our ballcub because of the different abilities that he brings, the experience, the locker room presence. And Coach was dead-on," Weaver said. "This guy has been tremendous for us. He’s really helped the young guys, he’s really stepped his game up. I’m sure a lot of people questioned it early on, but Coach really was beating the drum for Mason and we had a lot of good talks about him before we signed him.


I still agree that there's a plan with the money. Though there is some possibility that they traded Mason as a favor to him since they wanted to focus on Stewart expanding his role this year. I guess we'll see.
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Post#102 » by tmorgan » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:44 am

That’s pretty interesting. Trading him now makes even less sense unless something good (and near certain) is lined up.

Or maybe it’s just being good to Mason. He’ll start in Charlotte.
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Post#103 » by Snakebites » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:14 am

If we signed DDR I’d…well I don’t know what I’d do.
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Post#104 » by FloridaMan78 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:22 am

Snakebites wrote:If we signed DDR I’d…well I don’t know what I’d do.


DDR wants to win. I seriously doubt he’ll want to come here. He’s a horrible fit here too.
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Post#105 » by Snakebites » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:58 am

FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:If we signed DDR I’d…well I don’t know what I’d do.


DDR wants to win. I seriously doubt he’ll want to come here. He’s a horrible fit here too.

He’s a poor defending wing with no outside shot.

He’s a terrible fit everywhere. I guess maybe he’d work as a 6th man.

I don’t know what options he’ll have. Josh Smith probably wanted to win too.
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Post#106 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Aug 1, 2021 5:05 am

Snakebites wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:
Snakebites wrote:If we signed DDR I’d…well I don’t know what I’d do.


DDR wants to win. I seriously doubt he’ll want to come here. He’s a horrible fit here too.

He’s a poor defending wing with no outside shot.

He’s a terrible fit everywhere. I guess maybe he’d work as a 6th man.

I don’t know what options he’ll have. Josh Smith probably wanted to win too.


He can go to the Lakers if hes willing to play for pennies. Pretty much all the contending teams are strapped for cash that would be interested.

The reason he would come here over those teams is hes really close with Casey. Also we can pay him more then most teams.
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Post#107 » by Snakebites » Sun Aug 1, 2021 5:14 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
FloridaMan78 wrote:
DDR wants to win. I seriously doubt he’ll want to come here. He’s a horrible fit here too.

He’s a poor defending wing with no outside shot.

He’s a terrible fit everywhere. I guess maybe he’d work as a 6th man.

I don’t know what options he’ll have. Josh Smith probably wanted to win too.


He can go to the Lakers if hes willing to play for pennies. Pretty much all the contending teams are strapped for cash that would be interested.

The reason he would come here over those teams is hes really close with Casey. Also we can pay him more then most teams.

And he’d be awful. He’d take shots away from guys who need developing.

There’s not much that would strip me of optimism for this season, but signing Demar would probably do it.
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Post#108 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Aug 1, 2021 5:20 am

I hear ya not saying i want him. DDR seems like a Gores type guy though.
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Post#109 » by vege » Sun Aug 1, 2021 6:22 am

buzzkilloton wrote:No way were not about to make a splash on someone. These moves are all pointing to it. That 17.5 mill was before todays moves. Were going to have the 6th most space to get somebody.


Read on Twitter


You are wrong. After waving McGruder we'll have 17.5mil in cap space. The math is all there and its not difficult to understand :roll:
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Post#110 » by buzzkilloton » Sun Aug 1, 2021 6:26 am

vege wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:No way were not about to make a splash on someone. These moves are all pointing to it. That 17.5 mill was before todays moves. Were going to have the 6th most space to get somebody.


You are wrong. After waving McGruder we'll have 17.5mil in cap space. The math is all there and its not difficult to understand :roll:


Well figuring I didnt do the math not sure how I can be wrong about it. As I earlier posted this tweet that came from Hollinger. Take it up with him if hes wrong on the math.

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Post#111 » by vege » Sun Aug 1, 2021 6:28 am

buzzkilloton wrote:
vege wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:No way were not about to make a splash on someone. These moves are all pointing to it. That 17.5 mill was before todays moves. Were going to have the 6th most space to get somebody.


You are wrong. After waving McGruder we'll have 17.5mil in cap space. The math is all there and its not difficult to understand :roll:


Well figuring I didnt do the math not sure how I can be wrong about it. As I earlier posted that came from Hollinger. Take it up with him if hes wrong on the math.

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No he is not wrong, We did not stretch those 2 contracts. If we do, which would be moronic, we will have around 22 mil in cap space. We have 17-18 mil in cap space, and that's it, the numbers are all there in the FA thread.
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Post#112 » by DetroitDon15 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:30 pm

bstein14 wrote:If Markkanen was willing to come in and back up the PF and C spots he would be a no brainer for us. If Chicago really has their sights set on a big Lonzo Ball offer Markkanen might be an easy get at a contract worth about 3 years $40 million. If we do sign him to that it might mean Sekou is out of the rotation for good and not worth picking up his contract for next year. I think Markkanen could be an efficient 15+ PPG bench scorer for Detroit, but he also is a bit one dimensional. He's a bit like Duncan Robinson in that reguard and really good elite 40+% from deep shooter and good efficient scorer overall but lacking defensively.


I’d love to have Lauri but he is not coming to Detroit to come off the bench. I think that is a big reason that he is leaving Chicago or wants out. If he comes to the Pistons, the SL would be the following:

C Lauri
F Grant
F Bey
G Cunningham
G Hayes
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Post#113 » by bstein14 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:40 pm

DetroitDon15 wrote:
bstein14 wrote:If Markkanen was willing to come in and back up the PF and C spots he would be a no brainer for us. If Chicago really has their sights set on a big Lonzo Ball offer Markkanen might be an easy get at a contract worth about 3 years $40 million. If we do sign him to that it might mean Sekou is out of the rotation for good and not worth picking up his contract for next year. I think Markkanen could be an efficient 15+ PPG bench scorer for Detroit, but he also is a bit one dimensional. He's a bit like Duncan Robinson in that reguard and really good elite 40+% from deep shooter and good efficient scorer overall but lacking defensively.


I’d love to have Lauri but he is not coming to Detroit to come off the bench. I think that is a big reason that he is leaving Chicago or wants out. If he comes to the Pistons, the SL would be the following:

C Lauri
F Grant
F Bey
G Cunningham
G Hayes



The fact that part of the reasoning for moving Plumlee was supposedly to move Stewart into the starting lineup means its really unlikely we move Stewart out of the starting lineup now IMO.

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