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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#301 » by MisterRoy » Sun Aug 1, 2021 12:52 am

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The Rockets are expected to bring on center Daniel Theis, perhaps landing the veteran via sign-and-trade through an $8 million trade exception.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2946614-sources-free-agency-spotlight-on-cp3-the-lowry-domino-emerging-pg-carousel


If Theis is going to get 8M, why would Bulls do that?


Wouldn't the Bulls just sign him to that?

Did he not like playing in Chicago?


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Post#302 » by Neonblazer » Sun Aug 1, 2021 12:56 pm

If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.
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Post#303 » by TallDude » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:51 pm

Just take Felicio back :D
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Post#304 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Aug 1, 2021 2:17 pm

Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.
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Post#306 » by sco » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:05 pm

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wow, what a surprise...still unlikely, but I think our major goal is cap space, correct me if I'm wrong, but a TPE won't help us and taking back a contract won't help either...so it's a 2nd round pick or bust?
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#307 » by ZOMG » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:05 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#308 » by sco » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:08 pm

ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

ZOMG, are you staying with us or going with Lauri when he goes? Love your passion - hope you stay.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#309 » by ZOMG » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:09 pm

sco wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

ZOMG, are you staying with us or going with Lauri when he goes? Love your passion - hope you stay.


Any actual thoughts on the content of my post?
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#310 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:11 pm

ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

We already replaced what lauri was supposed to be us, with Vucevic who is a much better player. We don't need another 20 mill plus player in the front court with a team that struggled to close games and not turn the ball over. That money needs to go into the back court. Vucevic needs defense, rim protection and rebounding next to him. Plenty of cheap bigs who can provide that on the market. Much better defense and rebounding than Lauri provided.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#311 » by ZOMG » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:17 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

We already replaced what lauri was supposed to be us, with Vucevic who is a much better player. We don't need another 20 mill plus player in the front court with a team that struggled to close games and not turn the ball over. That money needs to go into the back court. Vucevic needs defense, rim protection and rebounding next to him. Plenty of cheap bigs who can provide that on the market. Much better defense and rebounding than Lauri provided.


Vucevic replaced Wendell, not Lauri. Vuc is a 5, nothing more. Lauri has only done spot duty at C over his Chicago career, so let's not get this twisted.

When Markkanen leaves, the Bulls will be f**ked when it comes to perimeter-centric scoring from the 4 spot. People can keep hoping that PWill turns into an offensive force there, but so far he's showed exactly zero signs of that. When you need to be absolutely wide open to even get your 3pt shot off, you're no spacer.

People will only realize how efficient Lauri was when he's gone.
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Post#312 » by FranchisePlayer » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:18 pm

ZOMG wrote:
sco wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

ZOMG, are you staying with us or going with Lauri when he goes? Love your passion - hope you stay.


Any actual thoughts on the content of my post?


You were little over 99,9% right.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

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Post#313 » by FranchisePlayer » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:20 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.


There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

We already replaced what lauri was supposed to be us, with Vucevic who is a much better player. We don't need another 20 mill plus player in the front court with a team that struggled to close games and not turn the ball over. That money needs to go into the back court. Vucevic needs defense, rim protection and rebounding next to him. Plenty of cheap bigs who can provide that on the market. Much better defense and rebounding than Lauri provided.


I think your argument would sound much more respectable if you'd provide some names.
MrSparkle wrote:I don't see a scenario here or there where Lauri becomes the "7-pick we thought he could be." If you remove his 3P ability, he's worse than Felicio by a mile.

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Post#314 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:30 pm

ZOMG wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

We already replaced what lauri was supposed to be us, with Vucevic who is a much better player. We don't need another 20 mill plus player in the front court with a team that struggled to close games and not turn the ball over. That money needs to go into the back court. Vucevic needs defense, rim protection and rebounding next to him. Plenty of cheap bigs who can provide that on the market. Much better defense and rebounding than Lauri provided.


Vucevic replaced Wendell, not Lauri. Vuc is a 5, nothing more. Lauri has only done spot duty at C over his Chicago career, so let's not get this twisted.

When Markkanen leaves, the Bulls will be f**ked when it comes to perimeter-centric scoring from the 4 spot. People can keep hoping that PWill turns into an offensive force there, but so far he's showed exactly zero signs of that. When you need to be absolutely wide open to even get your 3pt shot off, you're no spacer.

People will only realize how efficient Lauri was when he's gone.

Lol lauri and Vucevic games are much more comparable then Vucevic and carter Jr. Carter jr was supposed to be our rim protecting defensive big which no one expects Vucevic to be. Which is why we don't need another stretch big next to Vucevic and we need to replace lauri with another defensive big. Vucevic has a better post presence then lauri but can also shoot from outside which btw he is a career better outside shooter at 38% then lauri is at 36%. Again Vucevic can do everything lauri can at a much better level. Lauri has already been replaced.

As far as bigs available, taj Gibson, Robin lopez, Nerleans Noel, javele Mcgee, ojeleye, willy cauley stein, maybe even Paul milsap and hassan whiteside can be had for cheap and fit much better next to Vucevic then lauri. And theis is not fully out of the equation either.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#315 » by the ultimates » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:40 pm

Lauri's best attribute is his three-point shooting. In this three-point shot jacking league that can be replaced. If Lauri leaves what really are the Bulls losing? It's not defense, ball handling, play-making, or rebounding.
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Post#316 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:51 pm

the ultimates wrote:Lauri's best attribute is his three-point shooting. In this three-point shot jacking league that can be replaced. If Lauri leaves what really are the Bulls losing? It's not defense, ball handling, play-making, or rebounding.

Exactly and Vucevic for his career has been a better 3pt shooter and also has the ability to rebound better and play in the post.

Other options for the 4
Patrick Williams can play some 4 while we 3 guard line up with ball lavine and rose/coby maybe even ayo proves to be nba ready sooner than we think

Willy hernongomez
Noah vonleh for depth
Zach Collins might be ok to take a flier on
And again theis is not off the table.

Again a lot of defensive bigs. AK likely thinking the same way which is why we are tied to Mcgee.
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Re: Lauri Markkanen Thread: PG. 13 - KC: Bulls Extend QO to Lauri 

Post#317 » by Neonblazer » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:57 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.

I agree that the money should be spend on getting PG but the problem is that if BOTH Theis and Lauri will go, then bulls need someone to play PF with Vuc, defensive and big, because Vuc is what he is. They need backup C too since that was either Lauri or Theis. Just saying that there are two players in the market that could come, but can choose to go elsewhere, really isn't making the problem go away. I wouldn't put my money on Robin Lopez coming back to anywhere near Bulls after what happened here.
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Post#318 » by Red8911 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:57 pm

Lauri would benefit from going to the Spurs with Pop. There he would have a better chance to change his career around for the better. Spurs would have to give something back so maybe Rudy Gay or Poetl would be good. Murray would be the best to be the starting PG but that would have to include more players from the bulls.
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Post#319 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:06 pm

ZOMG wrote:
sco wrote:
ZOMG wrote:
There's "tons" of "cheap" bigs who will give you 19/9 per 36 production, and do it at excellent efficiency while spreading the floor and not needing the ball that much? :lol:

Yeah, right. This fanbase is unbelievable. Replacing Lauri can be done but it will not be easy or cheap. Grouping Markkanen, Theis and Thad together as if there's some generic "big" category is silly as it is. Wildly different players and some of them are easier to replace than others.

ZOMG, are you staying with us or going with Lauri when he goes? Love your passion - hope you stay.


Any actual thoughts on the content of my post?


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Post#320 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:07 pm

Neonblazer wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:
Neonblazer wrote:If both Theis and Lauri go, Bulls are going to have a huge hole at frontcourt.

As posted in other places. Least of our issues. There will be a ton of cheap bigs we can pick up who could give us production comparable to lauri and theis and even thad. Getting bigs is the least of our issues. I agree with with front office direction of spending more of that money in the back court/depth in the wings.

My choices are bringing back taj Gibson and Robin lopez. I'm also good with javele Mcgee nerleans Noel and hassan whiteside.

I agree that the money should be spend on getting PG but the problem is that if BOTH Theis and Lauri will go, then bulls need someone to play PF with Vuc, defensive and big, because Vuc is what he is. They need backup C too since that was either Lauri or Theis. Just saying that there are two players in the market that could come, but can choose to go elsewhere, really isn't making the problem go away. I wouldn't put my money on Robin Lopez coming back to anywhere near Bulls after what happened here.

I said my choices are those 2 but I have posted about 10 more players who will be available for cheap. Looking also at other teams especially contending teams, most of them have too many bigs as we speak and the nets who need bigs can't grab everybody. Reason I didn't really want to post any names because I knew the nitpicking on each name would begin but considering our place in the standings last season, we can't possibly be too worried about losing most of this roster. This roster needs a new look imo only players we need to prioritize are Vucevic lavine and Patrick Williams with a short leash on coby. Other then that I don't mind hauling all these guys out. We have exceptions to utilize to fill our roster out. I'm just not one who believes we are losing that much value. I like theis but I won't cry if we got another direction and I been over lauri.
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