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Wizards have no starting PG for 2021-22 and beyond... what do you do?

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WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Sign and trade with Nets for Spencer Dinwiddie
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21%
Sign and trade with Pelicans for Lonzo Ball
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Trade with the Spurs for Dejounte Murray OR Derrick White
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Sign and trade with Spurs for Demar DeRozan :lol:
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3%
OTHER
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18%
 
Total votes: 34

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Re: Wizards have no starting PG for 2021-22 and beyond... what do you do? 

Post#81 » by Ruzious » Mon Aug 2, 2021 10:46 am

keynote wrote:I like starting Beal at the point. His handles and playmaking abilities have improved, and we're more likely to be able to surround him with shooters than we were in 2019 after Wall went down.

Might we be better off looking for a combo guard/bench scorer, rather than a starting PG? Think Dipo on a 1-year, or Trent Jr, or Monk.

Sexton's actually been more a 2 than a 1 in the NBA. He'd fit what you're saying there. I don't trust Dipo to stay healthy and get back to what he used to be, but yeah - on a 1 year deal, that might make be a worthwhile gamble.
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Post#82 » by nate33 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:13 pm

I don't really want to see Beal at starting PG. It's true that he has improved his handles and pick-and-roll playmaking enough to get by at PG, but I think defenses can lock in on Beal better if he is at the point of attack. We are harder to guard if we have another playmaker at the point of attack, with Beal doing his off-ball thing. It gives the defense two things to worry about instead of one.
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Re: Wizards have no starting PG for 2021-22 and beyond... what do you do? 

Post#83 » by nate33 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:24 pm

Kanyewest wrote:If the Bulls get Lonzo Ball maybe Satoransky becomes available in a trade given that they already have Coby White

That's an interesting idea! They also have Troy Brown to do some ball-handling, rendering Sato that much more redundant. And with Porter surely gone and Markennan possibly gone, they are short of catch-and-shoot guys on the wing. Would they go for a Bertans for Sato trade? It works in the trade checker and fits the needs of both rosters.

Notably, the Bulls also have the option to buy out this final season of Sato's contract for $5M. If they do so, Sato will be a free agent and we have the full MLE available.
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Post#84 » by Godymas » Mon Aug 2, 2021 1:34 pm

The easiest move would be to toss Harrell/Kuz over to Brooklyn for Dinwiddie. Brooklyn are bout to lose Jeff Green and always had an issue with big men and Kuz and Harrell would give their bench some punch and size.

Dinwiddie comes back and he could be decent.

The most attractive move would be getting Lonzo Ball, the fit with Beal would be great. NOP might also have mutual interest in moving Lonzo over to DC if DC is willing to return assets (once again Kuzma and Harrell come into play here). Kuzma re-uniting with BI and New Orleans loves their Laker assets. It could be an interesting sell.

Worst case scenario would be somehow ending up with Schroeder, but it seems obvious that DC didn't want Schroeder or he'd have been an easy inclusion in the WB trade.

Bertans sounds immovable to a lot of people, but I 100% believe he's moveable to the Spurs. The Spurs traded him to DC out of necessity to get Marcus Morris who completely bailed but Pop was 100% in on Bertans. While Bertans has had issues in the playoffs and in crucial games for DC and is one of the most frustrating hot/cold players I've watched he is someone that could be great for a team like the Spurs that want to bring up their new generation in terms of running plays to get the 3 point shooter open. The return would be Dejounte Murray of course who while not a true shooter provides excellent defense which is another place Wiz would look to grow.

I'd say it's fine with trading Bertans just because of Corey being drafted as a potential replacement. Of course having more shooters is always beneficial in today's league but between Beal and KCP/Corey there is probably enough to run a deadly small ball line-up with Beal as the focal point.

I'd say Lonzo would be the best fit but if DC gets Dejounte Murray I wouldn't be upset at all.
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Post#85 » by gambitx777 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:51 pm

I would say Lonzo is the only ture needle mover out there under 25 that we can likely get.

Then I'd put Murray as a second option

Then Dinwidie at the right price.

Then every other idea.

Then brad starting at point lol.

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Post#86 » by Ruzious » Mon Aug 2, 2021 8:14 pm

Godymas wrote:The most attractive move would be getting Lonzo Ball, the fit with Beal would be great. NOP might also have mutual interest in moving Lonzo over to DC if DC is willing to return assets (once again Kuzma and Harrell come into play here). Kuzma re-uniting with BI and New Orleans loves their Laker assets. It could be an interesting sell.

Ball would be one of the better alternatives - fer sure. Kuzma could be a good 3rd forward for them. NO isn't in great bargaining position - since they could lose him for nothing. One thing we gotta commend Tommy for - there wasn't a peep about the Westbrook trade until it happened. I'm guessing the Dinwiddie rumors didn't come from Washington. So, they've done a good job about keeping things quiet. Beal and Ball - it rolls right off the tongue.
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Post#87 » by mhd » Mon Aug 2, 2021 8:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Godymas wrote:The most attractive move would be getting Lonzo Ball, the fit with Beal would be great. NOP might also have mutual interest in moving Lonzo over to DC if DC is willing to return assets (once again Kuzma and Harrell come into play here). Kuzma re-uniting with BI and New Orleans loves their Laker assets. It could be an interesting sell.

Ball would be one of the better alternatives - fer sure. Kuzma could be a good 3rd forward for them. NO isn't in great bargaining position - since they could lose him for nothing. One thing we gotta commend Tommy for - there wasn't a peep about the Westbrook trade until it happened. I'm guessing the Dinwiddie rumors didn't come from Washington. So, they've done a good job about keeping things quiet. Beal and Ball - it rolls right off the tongue.



Yeah, Tommy runs a tight ship. We didn't hear anything about Robin Lopez last year or Kispert this year.
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Post#88 » by gambitx777 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 9:47 pm

mhd wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Godymas wrote:The most attractive move would be getting Lonzo Ball, the fit with Beal would be great. NOP might also have mutual interest in moving Lonzo over to DC if DC is willing to return assets (once again Kuzma and Harrell come into play here). Kuzma re-uniting with BI and New Orleans loves their Laker assets. It could be an interesting sell.

Ball would be one of the better alternatives - fer sure. Kuzma could be a good 3rd forward for them. NO isn't in great bargaining position - since they could lose him for nothing. One thing we gotta commend Tommy for - there wasn't a peep about the Westbrook trade until it happened. I'm guessing the Dinwiddie rumors didn't come from Washington. So, they've done a good job about keeping things quiet. Beal and Ball - it rolls right off the tongue.



Yeah, Tommy runs a tight ship. We didn't hear anything about Robin Lopez last year or Kispert this year.
Tommy is definitely a guy who likes his smoke screens we have 15 minutes and we might get some news.


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Post#89 » by Godymas » Tue Aug 3, 2021 12:18 pm

Looks like it's going to be Dinwiddie

3 years $60M

at least it's not a long term deal, a bit pricy for a guy coming off an injury

no reports of a S/T yet but it may still be a thing
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Post#90 » by gambitx777 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 1:17 pm

Godymas wrote:Looks like it's going to be Dinwiddie

3 years $60M

at least it's not a long term deal, a bit pricy for a guy coming off an injury

no reports of a S/T yet but it may still be a thing
I hope the last year is a partial that way if Beal bails we are not on the hook for him too long.

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Post#92 » by queridiculo » Mon Feb 7, 2022 1:48 pm

I voted for Ball, shame on you Dinwiddie lovers :lol:
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Post#93 » by CobraCommander » Mon Feb 7, 2022 2:00 pm

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queridiculo wrote:I voted for Ball, shame on you Dinwiddie lovers :lol:

I voted for Derozen....

But I voted today
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Post#94 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Mon Feb 7, 2022 5:59 pm

Beal's handle is way too loose for him to take on full-time point guard duties. He has one game were he got a ton of assists and many have been harping on it ever sense. Have you not watched the guy in the 4th quarters of games throw the ball away enough when defensive energy and attention increase? Not to say he hasn't improved but let's us not act like it wouldn't lead us to ripping our hair out during games, he's just not as clever/savvy as say a Harden, don't think he ever will be.

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