"Around the NBA": 2020-21 Season Thread

[MrDollarBills]

What can we taken from this is that luck can play a massive part in championship success. It was literally the difference this year between Bucks being a 2nd round sweep and the NBA champions this year. "Toughness, grit", all that **** is irrelevant when circumstances were this huge of a factor.

The Bucks were extremely lucky that Harden pulled his hamstring and Giannis decided to throw his body under Kyrie while he was in mid air, I agree. This is why I laughed when I saw Giannis talking about how he won without a super team. What a **** ing joke. We sweep them easily at 100%.


However, it doesn't negate the fact that we need to add another dog or two to the roster defensively.

I thought Blake Griffin and Bruce Brown showed a lot of grit and toughness. Jeff Green also played with plantar fasciitis. I think we could use more size on the roster for specific situations but I never saw this team as soft. We were designed to lose on rebounds because we simply lacked size, it wasn't a toughness thing.

Brown and Blake are dogs, I agree, but we could use another. Green is a good rotation piece but he's not a dog defensively. Blake will go out there and bowling ball his way on the floor for loose balls and Brown is an irritating defender. Give me a big or another wing with some of that in them.

[therealbig3]

The Bucks were extremely lucky that Harden pulled his hamstring and Giannis decided to throw his body under Kyrie while he was in mid air, I agree. This is why I laughed when I saw Giannis talking about how he won without a super team. What a **** ing joke. We sweep them easily at 100%.


However, it doesn't negate the fact that we need to add another dog or two to the roster defensively.

I thought Blake Griffin and Bruce Brown showed a lot of grit and toughness. Jeff Green also played with plantar fasciitis. I think we could use more size on the roster for specific situations but I never saw this team as soft. We were designed to lose on rebounds because we simply lacked size, it wasn't a toughness thing.

Brown and Blake are dogs, I agree, but we could use another. Green is a good rotation piece but he's not a dog defensively. Blake will go out there and bowling ball his way on the floor for loose balls and Brown is an irritating defender. Give me a big or another wing with some of that in them.

Theis would be great, I’ve always liked his game a lot.

[Prokorov]

The Bucks were extremely lucky that Harden pulled his hamstring and Giannis decided to throw his body under Kyrie while he was in mid air, I agree. This is why I laughed when I saw Giannis talking about how he won without a super team. What a **** ing joke. We sweep them easily at 100%.


However, it doesn't negate the fact that we need to add another dog or two to the roster defensively.

I thought Blake Griffin and Bruce Brown showed a lot of grit and toughness. Jeff Green also played with plantar fasciitis. I think we could use more size on the roster for specific situations but I never saw this team as soft. We were designed to lose on rebounds because we simply lacked size, it wasn't a toughness thing.

Brown and Blake are dogs, I agree, but we could use another. Green is a good rotation piece but he's not a dog defensively. Blake will go out there and bowling ball his way on the floor for loose balls and Brown is an irritating defender. Give me a big or another wing with some of that in them.

in addition, your probably only getting 45-55 games at 28-30 mpg from blake in the RS. Same with KD/Kyrie. Harden maybe goes back to being an ironman. but we need guys to help win games over the long haul.

Nash isnt gonna play Alize Johnson. We need to find a tough player who also shoots.

Harden | Shamet | Brown | Green | Claxton is a lineup we will see starting for 20-30 games as it stands now

[MrDollarBills]

I thought Blake Griffin and Bruce Brown showed a lot of grit and toughness. Jeff Green also played with plantar fasciitis. I think we could use more size on the roster for specific situations but I never saw this team as soft. We were designed to lose on rebounds because we simply lacked size, it wasn't a toughness thing.

Brown and Blake are dogs, I agree, but we could use another. Green is a good rotation piece but he's not a dog defensively. Blake will go out there and bowling ball his way on the floor for loose balls and Brown is an irritating defender. Give me a big or another wing with some of that in them.

Theis would be great, I’ve always liked his game a lot.

Yep. I'm all for Theis being added here.

[MrDollarBills]

Watching USA vs France on stream (it's so dumb that these games aren't available on TV), TLC is out there throwing up airballs. come on my guy at least show out today

Also, I dunno if yall have been keeping up with KD but he's been acting the fool Iin the Olympic village

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I gotta find the clips where he's been talking **** to Bam. These dudes are hilarious

[Prokorov]

Watching USA vs France on stream (it's so dumb that these games aren't available on TV), TLC is out there throwing up airballs. come on my guy at least show out today

Also, I dunno if yall have been keeping up with KD but he's been acting the fool Iin the Olympic village

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I gotta find the clips where he's been talking **** to Bam. These dudes are hilarious

Team USA roster is so poorly assembled. a ton of guys who do nothing but score on ball. play no defense, dont rebound, dont catch and shoot. dont cut, dont post.

KD, Jrue, and Draymond are the only guys worth having for olympic play. Bam works in the NBA, but in FIBA with no defensive 3 seconds he is useless and is undersized since teams play bigs in fiba.

Booker/Grant/Lavine/Lillard. only 1 of that group should be on the team.

tatum/Middleton defend, but neither has offensive value without the ball.

Team is really missing guys like Harden, Butler, Kyrie (International assassin), Lebron, AD. Lowry, Thompson.

Also, in FIba, it helps to have an offensive big. like an actual center who can finish and get offensive rebounds. even a guy like Deandre.

If KD is in foul trouble or is off at all this team cant win.

This is when guys like Beal really get exposed as the empty stat guys they are

[MrDollarBills]

Watching USA vs France on stream (it's so dumb that these games aren't available on TV), TLC is out there throwing up airballs. come on my guy at least show out today

Also, I dunno if yall have been keeping up with KD but he's been acting the fool Iin the Olympic village

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I gotta find the clips where he's been talking **** to Bam. These dudes are hilarious

Team USA roster is so poorly assembled. a ton of guys who do nothing but score on ball. play no defense, dont rebound, dont catch and shoot. dont cut, dont post.

KD, Jrue, and Draymond are the only guys worth having for olympic play. Bam works in the NBA, but in FIBA with no defensive 3 seconds he is useless and is undersized since teams play bigs in fiba.

Booker/Grant/Lavine/Lillard. only 1 of that group should be on the team.

tatum/Middleton defend, but neither has offensive value without the ball.

Team is really missing guys like Harden, Butler, Kyrie (International assassin), Lebron, AD. Lowry, Thompson.

Also, in FIba, it helps to have an offensive big. like an actual center who can finish and get offensive rebounds. even a guy like Deandre.

If KD is in foul trouble or is off at all this team cant win.

This is when guys like Beal really get exposed as the empty stat guys they are

Beal got sent home because he tested positive for COVID and I'm assuming he's not vaccinated.

And yep, the make up of this roster is so unbalanced. The French had a distinct size advantage with Gobert. The team could have used AD badly out there. Also, there really are no PG playmakers on the team. Lillard is great at scoring but he doesn't make anyone around him better. Jrue is a good player but not a primary playmaker. Harden, Lebron and Curry are missed.

The USA should survive pool play but this was a bad loss considering the lead that they had. The French have a roster loaded with NBA players and the USA took their foot off of the gas and got burnt. KD also had a bad game, foul trouble and inefficient shooting.

Our lack of size will haunt us in the medal round.

[Lamak]

g league affiliate of the pelicans coming to my city, this should be fun

[MrDollarBills]

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We need another big, I would have taken JV in a heartbeat.

[gigantes]

Yeah, main reason I'm following the "Olympics" at this point is pretty much just: absolute, wide-eyed awe at what a total clusterfluff it's been so far? And promises to continue being?

For example:

- These dates were evidently chosen specifically for revenue-gathering purposes, ala broadcast convenience, even though they're traditionally some of the most brutally hot / humid summer months in Japan. Yeap, the Japan committee famously assured the IOC that the weather would be just fineeee. (look this up)

- Last time around, the Russian squad hilariously drilled through the wall of the Olympic drug-testing facility and strategically erased all the failed drug tests by Russian athletes. Later, even after a full confession by the head Russian on site, most of the false results weren't actually nullified by the IOC! So the head guy fled to US, entered witness protection, and his two lieutenants disappeared after they returned to the mother country. *insert Borat comment*

- This time around, the Olympic Committee in their infinite wisdom decides that Russia can't officially take part in these games, but still grants all Russian athletes permission to compete under a sort of pseudo-Russian entity. So now they play a beloved Tchaikovsky piece instead of the national anthem whenever a Russian athlete wins a medal, lol. Oh well, glad they put their foot down, though!

- IIRC even the body of Japanese people didn't want the games held this year due to the risks of furthering CV19 replication, yet here we are. Specifically, the body of dumbasses around the world who refused masks, safety-measures and vaccines helped create deadly variants such as "Delta," with no end in sight. And now we have THIS stoopid-ass collection of a throng of humans sweating and breathing around each other, for no good reason other than money and tradition.

- Meanwhile, the NBA oversight committee saw fit to heavily skew the USA squad towards name players & scorers over playmakers & glue-guys, with increasingly obvious disastrous results. As if we didn't specifically learn that lesson back in 2004, reinforced by other international tournaments at the time. (remember?)

As Khabib would say: "I am laughing."

Oh well. Thank dawg the games always have a bunch of fascinating human interest stories, because I always do love those. <3

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah, main reason I'm following the "Olympics" at this point is pretty much just: absolute, wide-eyed awe at what a total clusterfluff it's been so far? And promises to continue being?

For example:

- These dates were evidently chosen specifically for revenue-gathering purposes, ala broadcast convenience, even though they're traditionally some of the most brutally hot / humid summer months in Japan. Yeap, the Japan committee famously assured the IOC that the weather would be just fineeee. (look this up)

- Last time around, the Russian squad hilariously drilled through the wall of the Olympic drug-testing facility and strategically erased all the failed drug tests by Russian athletes. Later, even after a full confession by the head Russian on site, most of the false results weren't actually nullified by the IOC! So the head guy fled to US, entered witness protection, and his two lieutenants disappeared after they returned to the mother country. *insert Borat comment*

- This time around, the Olympic Committee in their infinite wisdom decides that Russia can't officially take part in these games, but still grants all Russian athletes permission to compete under a sort of pseudo-Russian entity. So now they play a beloved Tchaikovsky piece instead of the national anthem whenever a Russian athlete wins a medal, lol. Oh well, glad they put their foot down, though!

- IIRC even the body of Japanese people didn't want the games held this year due to the risks of furthering CV19 replication, yet here we are. Specifically, the body of dumbasses around the world who refused masks, safety-measures and vaccines helped create deadly variants such as "Delta," with no end in sight. And now we have THIS stoopid-ass collection of a throng of humans sweating and breathing around each other, for no good reason other than money and tradition.

- Meanwhile, the NBA oversight committee saw fit to heavily skew the USA squad towards name players & scorers over playmakers & glue-guys, with increasingly obvious disastrous results. As if we didn't specifically learn that lesson back in 2004, reinforced by other international tournaments at the time. (remember?)

As Khabib would say: "I am laughing."

Oh well. Thank dawg the games always have a bunch of fascinating human interest stories, because I always do love those. <3

There's a Typhoon barreling towards Tokyo as we speak

[Prokorov]

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We need another big, I would have taken JV in a heartbeat.

He doesnt fit here. he is basically the opposite of what the team is looking for. and he makes a hefty amount, which we cant afford for a role guy

[MrDollarBills]

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We need another big, I would have taken JV in a heartbeat.

He doesnt fit here. he is basically the opposite of what the team is looking for. and he makes a hefty amount, which we cant afford for a role guy

a big that averaged 17ppg 13rpg that shot 37% from behind the arc isn't a fit here?

Yeah we can't afford him so it's pointless, but I would love to have him here as opposed to playing Jeff Green at center or whatever crap Nash and D'Antoni wants to do.

[Prokorov]

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We need another big, I would have taken JV in a heartbeat.

He doesnt fit here. he is basically the opposite of what the team is looking for. and he makes a hefty amount, which we cant afford for a role guy

a big that averaged 17ppg 13rpg that shot 37% from behind the arc isn't a fit here?

Yeah we can't afford him so it's pointless, but I would love to have him here as opposed to playing Jeff Green at center or whatever crap Nash and D'Antoni wants to do.

The nets like most analytic drivern teams dont value rebunding. so the 13 rpg dont matter much if at all. Saying he shot 37% from deep looks good on the surface, but thats on less then 1 attempt per game. he isnt a stretch big. And most importantly, he cant switch on to smalls. which the nets require at the 5 in their switch everything scheme. even with the 17 ppg, most of it comes on touches below the FT line in isolation/post touches. which again, the nets dont want from their center.

if the nets are going to go outside their model on a center, its more likely to do it for a shot blocking monster. which is probably where the noel rumors stem from

[LOUiS-D]

Anyone still struggling to shake off the salt? Everytime I see anything bucks related I'm full tilted. Keep having to stop myself from posting on GB. I don't think I can get peace until we bury them.

[gigantes]

Anyone still struggling to shake off the salt? Everytime I see anything bucks related I'm full tilted. Keep having to stop myself from posting on GB. I don't think I can get peace until we bury them.

Well, they sorta won me over in the end as an NBA fan, but yeah, I'll never forget how Giannis weirdly slid all the way over to undercut Kyrie, and the way MIL fans lightly dismissed it like it was 'a natural bball play.'

At the same time, I was pretty blown away seeing how much MIL fans HATED the Bucks, Giannis & Bud after going down 0-2 to both us and the Suns. Notwithstanding their two excellent comebacks, they're evidently not a very happy group, for whatever reason. (WTF?)

Still, for me-- Giannis' story is one of the more heart-warming, unlikeliest ones in sport; it's nice to see an underdog city finally win a chip; and frankly I've always liked homegrown teams more than the Heat and Lakers of the world.

I mean, some would argue that also includes our Nets as a 'bought team,' but I feel like our story has been far more organic & interesting so to speak. Like, only a few years this franchise was a complete wasteland due to Prokhy's, Razumov's and King's foolishness, then some guy named "Marks" was hired.

[Stone]

Yeah, I'm still salty. Initially I was upset with Giannis but now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm also happy that a small market team that has not won in 50 years has something to celebrate.

I just goes to show you never know what's going to happen. At first I thought we would a few chips, now I'll be happy if we win one.

[MrDollarBills]

Nope. **** Giannis, **** the Bucks, **** the city of Milwaukee, **** their fans.

If the Nets had beaten the Bucks because KD or Kyrie undercut Giannis causing him to be out for the series with injury, people would have been calling for their heads. Yall are way too nice about this. I cannot wait for the season to begin so we can crush them and everyone else.

[Prokorov]

Anyone still struggling to shake off the salt? Everytime I see anything bucks related I'm full tilted. Keep having to stop myself from posting on GB. I don't think I can get peace until we bury them.

Well, they sorta won me over in the end as an NBA fan, but yeah, I'll never forget how Giannis weirdly slid all the way over to undercut Kyrie, and the way MIL fans lightly dismissed it like it was 'a natural bball play.'

At the same time, I was pretty blown away seeing how much MIL fans HATED the Bucks, Giannis & Bud after going down 0-2 to both us and the Suns. Notwithstanding their two excellent comebacks, they're evidently not a very happy group, for whatever reason. (WTF?)

Still, for me-- Giannis' story is one of the more heart-warming, unlikeliest ones in sport; it's nice to see an underdog city finally win a chip; and frankly I've always liked homegrown teams more than the Heat and Lakers of the world.

I mean, some would argue that also includes our Nets as a 'bought team,' but I feel like our story has been far more organic & interesting so to speak. Like, only a few years this franchise was a complete wasteland due to Prokhy's, Razumov's and King's foolishness, then some guy named "Marks" was hired.

I happy for Bucks fans... but really Giannis can go kick rocks... talking about he "did it the hard way" and could have taken the easy path and joined a superteam.

Like dude...

1) Middleton was counted on to take and make every big shot in the playoffs
2) You hid from every tough defensive assignment, even KD after you said you were gonna guard KD
3) You played the Heat wihout Dragic, the Nets without Kyrie/Harden, the hawks without Trae, and the suns with a hobbled CP3

they all count the same, but you've choked your entire career and it took a pandemic compressed season with tons of star injuries to barely scrape by.

Also, your team dealt 5 picks for Jrue and you have an all-star in middleton. not a superteam but its not like the carry job Kawhi did either.

[Prokorov]

Nope. **** Giannis, **** the Bucks, **** the city of Milwaukee, **** their fans.

If the Nets had beaten the Bucks because KD or Kyrie undercut Giannis causing him to be out for the series with injury, people would have been calling for their heads. Yall are way too nice about this. I cannot wait for the season to begin so we can crush them and everyone else.

Alot of their fans were ok. self loathing pessmimists... i can relate that being a net fan for 35 years.

Also props to Jrue and Middleton. those guys earned it

Giannis is still a choker flawed player to me