All Elite Wrestling - Discussion

[daoneandonly]

Welp, as much as I was looking forward to seeing Punk and Brian Danielson on AEW, I'm not gonna watch it. What they allowed Nick Gage just do was a disgrace to pro wrestling, and the consequence is they just lost a fan forever. To me, they just completely ruined everything that so many outstanding athletes there have worked so hard to create.

That's the Nick Gage specialty. He's a death match guy like Mick Foley and Terry Funk. I personally don't mind that stuff once in a Blue Moon. But I think a match like that should have been Jericho's "Final stage" and not part 2. Like next week he has a match against Juventud. I would think the death match with Nick Gage would be the hardest challenge.

Difference between Gage and Foley/Funk is both those guys could actually work. Gage has no talent so he’s basically turned the show Jackass into a style of wrestling. Yet another reason why every time I tune in or hear something about AEW it’s usually LOL or cringe worthy.

Unfortunately I think that’s a problem that starts at the top. Khan is a Mark and I don’t know how you combat that short of an ownership change.

Yea if you have a problem with Gage's antics, then where's the outrage for Foley. I didnt hear anyone stop watching WWe after Foley was thrown off a cage or speared through a table on fire.

[Ruzious]

That's the Nick Gage specialty. He's a death match guy like Mick Foley and Terry Funk. I personally don't mind that stuff once in a Blue Moon. But I think a match like that should have been Jericho's "Final stage" and not part 2. Like next week he has a match against Juventud. I would think the death match with Nick Gage would be the hardest challenge.

Difference between Gage and Foley/Funk is both those guys could actually work. Gage has no talent so he’s basically turned the show Jackass into a style of wrestling. Yet another reason why every time I tune in or hear something about AEW it’s usually LOL or cringe worthy.

Unfortunately I think that’s a problem that starts at the top. Khan is a Mark and I don’t know how you combat that short of an ownership change.

Yea if you have a problem with Gage's antics, then where's the outrage for Foley. I didnt hear anyone stop watching WWe after Foley was thrown off a cage or speared through a table on fire.

If you don't see the difference, it's because you choose not to. Mick Foley was an actual professional wrestler. He didn't use Murder Death Kill as the name for his fan club. There's maybe a bit of difference between Gage's sickening MDK message on his shirts vs Mick's cool Wanted Dead or Alive shirts. If you don't get the difference between them, God love ya.

[daoneandonly]

Difference between Gage and Foley/Funk is both those guys could actually work. Gage has no talent so he’s basically turned the show Jackass into a style of wrestling. Yet another reason why every time I tune in or hear something about AEW it’s usually LOL or cringe worthy.

Unfortunately I think that’s a problem that starts at the top. Khan is a Mark and I don’t know how you combat that short of an ownership change.

Yea if you have a problem with Gage's antics, then where's the outrage for Foley. I didnt hear anyone stop watching WWe after Foley was thrown off a cage or speared through a table on fire.

If you don't see the difference, it's because you choose not to. Mick Foley was an actual professional wrestler.

He wasnt a good wrestler, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time called him exactly what he was, a glorified stunt man. Yea, I'll happily choose to watch AEW over WWE every chance, because Gage was likely a one time draw, and Foley was their world champ

[Ruzious]

Yea if you have a problem with Gage's antics, then where's the outrage for Foley. I didnt hear anyone stop watching WWe after Foley was thrown off a cage or speared through a table on fire.

If you don't see the difference, it's because you choose not to. Mick Foley was an actual professional wrestler.

He wasnt a good wrestler, one of the greatest wrestlers of all time called him exactly what he was, a glorified stunt man. Yea, I'll happily choose to watch AEW over WWE every chance, because Gage was likely a one time draw, and Foley was their world champ

Dude, I watched Foley from his early days in Texas - well before his ECW, Japan, WCW and WWE days. Yeah, his best athletic quality was taking bumps, but he worked his arse off for years and did become a very solid professional wrestler. I didn't care for his more violent stuff, but again there's absolutely no comparison between him and Gage. If you don't see that, I don't know what to tell you, to be kind.

[Stanford]

Mick Foley had a lot of great wrestling matches. That makes him a good wrestler. Don't care how many moves he could do.

[Amare_1_Knicks]

For the first time, Dynamite reached 1 million + viewers for 4 straight weeks. Technically, these were ‘specials’ (Ftyer 1+2, Fight for the Fallen and Homecoming), but I didn’t see anything that couldn’t be replicated on weekly tv. Feature your stars in meaningful ways, limit the filler/nonsense and you can be consistently above 1 million.

[daoneandonly]

Adam Cole is essentially working without a contract by all reports, I can see him wanting to work with Britt

[tugs]

He'd be the only big NXT Star who didn't get called up and jumped to another company

[The_Brecht]

He got offered a contract at AEW, so it begins.

Btw, I love Malakai Black.
Using a Belgian entrance theme, what a legend.

[tugs]

This Page-Dark Order split...

Would anyone be opposed to the idea of the Dark Order getting new leadership with


Bray?

[Stanford]

This Page-Dark Order split...

Would anyone be opposed to the idea of the Dark Order getting new leadership with


Bray?

Seems a bit too on the nose to me

[daoneandonly]

This Page-Dark Order split...

Would anyone be opposed to the idea of the Dark Order getting new leadership with


Bray?

Seems a bit too on the nose to me

Seems like a perfect eharmony level match, without the ridiculous monthly fees

[WRau1]

If Bray is to take over the Dark Order, they need a complete attitude overhaul and I can totally understand how a lot of people don't see the fit between the two.

[tugs]

That chair spot was brutal but I'm very happy for Christian

[jakecronus8]

After watching that rampage debut I have come to the conclusion that all televised wrestling shows should be one hour in length.

[improper]

If Bray is to take over the Dark Order, they need a complete attitude overhaul and I can totally understand how a lot of people don't see the fit between the two.

Bray has shown to be capable of reinventing himself as required.

That being said...the question I really have about Bray is if his character work can ever transfer to the ring, because most of his big matches have sucked. Although I don't know if that says more about WWE's garbage booking or his ability as a performer.

[WRau1]

If Bray is to take over the Dark Order, they need a complete attitude overhaul and I can totally understand how a lot of people don't see the fit between the two.

Bray has shown to be capable of reinventing himself as required.

That being said...the question I really have about Bray is if his character work can ever transfer to the ring, because most of his big matches have sucked. Although I don't know if that says more about WWE's garbage booking or his ability as a performer.

He's had very good matches with Cena, DB and during his run w/ the Wyatt Family vs Shield and DB + Punk. WWE's booking is to blame for a lot of the **** gimmick matches they force him into.

[jakecronus8]

To me of all the free agents and rumored names, Wyatt is the one that I can see exploding if he goes to AEW. Punk and Bryan are what they are but Wyatt has plenty of growth and upside left.

Supposedly the fiend/FFF house were pretty much his ideas and he wanted to kind of be a peripheral attraction and not necessarily a week by week character. The worst thing that happened to him was how rapidly he got over forcing wwe to pull the trigger too quickly. I’m of the opinion that he never really needed to be a title holder. I thought the perfect way to book his title match with Rollins would be to decimate him and just leave leading to him getting counted out. Eventually you build a storyline where he’s trying to single handedly destroy the company leading to an eventual face turn. Alas, Vince.

If he goes to AEW and given creative control over his character the sky is the limit for him. In the last 20 years he’s definitely one of a handful of guys that has a special feel to him (provided he’s booked correctly).

[improper]

To me of all the free agents and rumored names, Wyatt is the one that I can see exploding if he goes to AEW. Punk and Bryan are what they are but Wyatt has plenty of growth and upside left.

Supposedly the fiend/FFF house were pretty much his ideas and he wanted to kind of be a peripheral attraction and not necessarily a week by week character. The worst thing that happened to him was how rapidly he got over forcing wwe to pull the trigger too quickly. I’m of the opinion that he never really needed to be a title holder. I thought the perfect way to book his title match with Rollins would be to decimate him and just leave leading to him getting counted out. Eventually you build a storyline where he’s trying to single handedly destroy the company leading to an eventual face turn. Alas, Vince.

If he goes to AEW and given creative control over his character the sky is the limit for him. In the last 20 years he’s definitely one of a handful of guys that has a special feel to him (provided he’s booked correctly).

You can't get counted out in a Hell in a Cell match.

Although you can't have a no contest either, I suppose, and WWE stupidly did that.

[Stanford]

WWE's booking is to blame for a lot of the **** gimmick matches they force him into.

Has anyone confirmed this?