Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Jon1798 · Post #1481 » by **Jon1798** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 3:53 pm

It does seem highly likely over here that Ball will be traded, but I have a hard time believing Graham will be the end game for the Pels. We shall see.

Post #1482 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:01 pm

As I searched for nailed trades, I found this exchange in general thoughts thread 2 back in march.
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=89694244#p89694244

You were right, Plumlee was officially negative and Charlotte went ahead and did take him several months later

Texas Chuck wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Is Plumlee positive?
Would Charlotte or Toronto take him ? Nets?

I think he's not positive, but Charlotte should definitely take him anyway.

Kilo · Post #1483 » by **Kilo** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:07 pm

Troubadour wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Why not?

Since both are restricted, it enables the teams to make sure they each get exactly one of the two.

Fair enough. So let me complain about some other aspects of this:

I hate Graham for the Pels as their starting PG.
I hate the idea of turning my franchise over to the Ball family.

Lonzo Ball is a really good fit for them, no? Big guard who will shoot threes off the catch, move the ball, and help them play up tempo. Has Lavar been that involved in the last year or two? Now that his sons are more established in the league, he seems to have mellowed out a little.

Unless it's the Pistons and the third Ball brother. Something about Detroit being a rachet-assed team.

Post #1484 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:29 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Over/under on the number of reporters who already know where guys are going but only got the story after agreeing to embargo the story until after 6:00?

1 exactly. Jake Fischer knows all this year, apparently :lol:

Post #1485 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:16 pm

Couple of big extension nuggets from Stein:

Luka set to sign a 5/$200M extension with Dallas not at midnight tonight when he first could, but after the Olympics. So those arguing he play on the QO will be disappointed.

Curry set to sign a 4/$215M extension with the Warriors.

Post #1486 » by **BullyKing** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:27 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Luka set to sign a 5/$200M extension with Dallas not at midnight tonight when he first could, but after the Olympics. So those arguing he play on the QO will be disappointed.

They don't have fax machines in Tokyo? Luka to Sixers whispers in 3....2....1....

Obviously its a non-issue but if I were Cuban I'd still send a guy with the contract and a box of pens to Japan.

moonpie · Post #1487 » by **moonpie** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:44 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #1488 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:01 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Luka set to sign a 5/$200M extension with Dallas not at midnight tonight when he first could, but after the Olympics. So those arguing he play on the QO will be disappointed.

They don't have fax machines in Tokyo? Luka to Sixers whispers in 3....2....1....

Obviously its a non-issue but if I were Cuban I'd still send a guy with the contract and a box of pens to Japan.

He doesn't want to distract from his Olympic performance supposedly.

Post #1489 » by **loserX** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:24 pm

Chris Haynes suggesting that if OKC went the under-the-cap route, they "could make things interesting" for Devante Graham.

eminence · Post #1490 » by **eminence** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:24 pm

Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

Godaddycurse · Post #1491 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:31 pm

eminence wrote:Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

FVV? Boston would have to add value though.

Bos in: FVV
Bos out smart, nesmith, 2022 1st

Gsw in: smart, 2022 bos 1st
Gsw out: wiseman, filler

Tor in wiseman, Nesmith, gsw filler
Tor out fvv

Post #1492 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:38 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
eminence wrote:Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

FVV? Boston would have to add value though.

Bos in: FVV
Bos out smart, nesmith, 2022 1st

Gsw in: smart, 2022 bos 1st
Gsw out: wiseman, filler

Tor in wiseman, Nesmith, gsw filler
Tor out fvv

I don't have FVV worth that much.

eminence · Post #1493 » by **eminence** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:40 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
eminence wrote:Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

FVV? Boston would have to add value though.

Bos in: FVV
Bos out smart, nesmith, 2022 1st

Gsw in: smart, 2022 bos 1st
Gsw out: wiseman, filler

Tor in wiseman, Nesmith, gsw filler
Tor out fvv

I don't have FVV worth that much.

Would leaving out Nesmith do it for all sides? No idea how much value he has these days.

Post #1494 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:42 pm

eminence wrote:Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

Why wouldn't the Celtics want Wiseman in this scenario?

Godaddycurse · Post #1495 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:46 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
eminence wrote:Who would be a third team to add here?

Bos In: ???
Bos Out: Smart

GS In: Smart + ??? (either a pick of some sort or a lesser prospect)
GS Out: Wiseman/filler

??? In: Wiseman/filler
??? Out: ???

FVV? Boston would have to add value though.

Bos in: FVV
Bos out smart, nesmith, 2022 1st

Gsw in: smart, 2022 bos 1st
Gsw out: wiseman, filler

Tor in wiseman, Nesmith, gsw filler
Tor out fvv

I don't have FVV worth that much.

I have him worth more than wiseman though hmm. I also have him more valuable than smart and a 1st. Maybe ignore me then if im too high on fvv

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #1496 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:52 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
FVV? Boston would have to add value though.

Bos in: FVV
Bos out smart, nesmith, 2022 1st

Gsw in: smart, 2022 bos 1st
Gsw out: wiseman, filler

Tor in wiseman, Nesmith, gsw filler
Tor out fvv

I don't have FVV worth that much.

I have him worth more than wiseman though hmm. I also have him more valuable than smart and a 1st. Maybe ignore me then if im too high on fvv

I think he’s definitely worth more than both of those options. Most of his advanced metrics blow Smart away.

Post #1497 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:54 pm

loserX wrote:Chris Haynes suggesting that if OKC went the under-the-cap route, they "could make things interesting" for Devante Graham.

They lose their Adams TPE on like 8/9, so if they don't have a trade to use that it makes more sense to just start using space. And I could see them signing a youngish guy or two.

Post #1498 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:10 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Couple of big extension nuggets from Stein:

Curry set to sign a 4/$215M extension with the Warriors.

Welp Lacob’s definitely not signing off on a big Wiseman or Kuminga deal now

Post #1499 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:17 pm

Batum and Warriors have mutual interest:

Read on Twitter

parsnips33 · Post #1500 » by **parsnips33** » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:38 pm

gswhoops wrote:Batum and Warriors have mutual interest:

Read on Twitter

If we can get him and a stretchy big (Theis? Guessing Olynyk is way out of the price range?) I would be thrilled