MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.3

[Wiltside]

What happened to those reports saying Kawhi Leonard was our major target in FA?

Mans is an UFA and apparently willing to listen to offers. We really believe Riley not atleast entertaining the notion?

I don't think there is really a viable pathway at this point to having the money to make a serious run at Kawhi. And we have seen this show from him before. I think the man as quite as he is likes to be courted despite having already made up his mind as to what he wants to do. I saw this fully acknowledging that I don't know him or "Uncle Dennis" personally to make those assessments.

Probably right, and all likelihood is that he re-ups with LAC...but he's a whale, and Riley likes whales.

I'm no cap wizard, so I'm not sure how we'd get the numbers to work, but presumably a combination of whatever LAC was willing to pay Igoudala and Nunn, Herro, KZ and a number of picks and swaps could get close to what's required?

They'd atleast add significant depth to LAC's situation next szn (where Kawhi will miss most if not all of the year), and give them a former lotto pick (Herro) and some picks/swaps to assist in their future rebuild.

[Variable-X]

Need a backup PG bad. Herro is not that guy pal

From my understanding two or three of the undrafted free agents we are taking a hard look at in the summer league are 6'5" and 6'6" ball handlers that are pretty good defensively. They could provide a good compliment to Herro, and we don't know what is going to happen with Nunn yet. If there is no market for him it isn't inconceivable that he comes back on the qualifying offer.

[CanesHeatFins]

All I want to know is if we outright own 1st round pick this year?

[Wiltside]

All I want to know if we outright own 1st round pick this year?

We do...but we also have a pick swap owed with Houston/Brooklyn following the Oladipo trade...so a fair incentive to have a better regular season than them...

[BBallFreak]

Nunn, now, is quite intriguing. The only way we can afford him is at the qualifying offer. So someone would have to do was offer him, say, $5 million, and we then cannot afford him. But would he sign anywhere for that or would he prefer to gamble on himself playing well for one more year in Miami?

Would be nice to have him back, then sign him for real next year.

He would give us an incredibly deep backcourt.

[Hallstar]

I love how because we made underwhelming deals, our new solution is to move one of our best chips in Herro for any cast off with a name we can get. Already shot in the foot, let's not bandage, go straight to amputate.

[Variable-X]

All I want to know if we outright own 1st round pick this year?

We do...but we also have a pick swap owed with Houston/Brooklyn following the Oladipo trade...so a fair incentive to have a better regular season than them...

Yeah I believe no matter what happens with us this year our pick will be mid to late twenties. Which isn't the worse thing in the world if we take our time scouting and apply the diligence we do to developing undrafted players to a late first rounder. We have gotten value from those spots before. As much as people like to give norris cole trouble he played a solid role for us in the championship years. And Shabazz Napier has developed into a solid player that could have done well on the heat in Riley wasn't so upset with Lebron.

[HeatIn5]

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Where Shabazz Napier at?

[Variable-X]

Nunn, now, is quite intriguing. The only way we can afford him is at the qualifying offer. So someone would have to do was offer him, say, $5 million, and we then cannot afford him. But would he sign anywhere for that or would he prefer to gamble on himself playing well for one more year in Miami?

Would be nice to have him back, then sign him for real next year.

He would give us an incredibly deep backcourt.

We could bring him back on a sub 10 million per year for multiple years if he was willing. We would just need to be ready to eat the tax bill, and if we are serious about competing and making a run then doubling a single digit salary in the millions is the price to pay for having a solid bench. We wouldn't have anywhere near the luxury tax penalty of say GSW. And I don't think we would be getting hit with repeaters if we were over this season. I wouldn't mind taking that swing, but it isn't my money so it isn't as big a deal to me.

[heatwillbeback]

I think Vincent earned a standard contract.

With that said, we need a better option as backup PG than him.

[Wiltside]

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OK this one I'm less excited about. I just don't rate Gabe as an NBA prospect. No need to give him 2 years either, we've had 2 years and they've been scrubby.

[Variable-X]

Where Shabazz Napier at?

was with the wizards for part of the season last year and gave them 11 points a game.

Edit: I am sorry that was the year prior, it doesn't appear he played in this covid shortened season according to his wikepedia.

[County of Wade]

Was obvious the Vincent and Strus deals would get done quick considering they both would be playing in summer league beginning tomorrow.

[Wiltside]

Where Shabazz Napier at?

I'd easily take Shabazz for 2yrs, $3.5m before I'd take Gabe Vincent.

[heatwillbeback]

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OK this one I'm less excited about. I just don't rate Gabe as an NBA prospect. No need to give him 2 years either, we've had 2 years and they've been scrubby.

If I had to guess I'd guess year two is a team option/unguarenteed. I'd guess the same with Strus.

These are minimum deals.

[BBallFreak]

Nunn, now, is quite intriguing. The only way we can afford him is at the qualifying offer. So someone would have to do was offer him, say, $5 million, and we then cannot afford him. But would he sign anywhere for that or would he prefer to gamble on himself playing well for one more year in Miami?

Would be nice to have him back, then sign him for real next year.

He would give us an incredibly deep backcourt.

We could bring him back on a sub 10 million per year for multiple years if he was willing. We would just need to be ready to eat the tax bill, and if we are serious about competing and making a run then doubling a single digit salary in the millions is the price to pay for having a solid bench. We wouldn't have anywhere near the luxury tax penalty of say GSW. And I don't think we would be getting hit with repeaters if we were over this season. I wouldn't mind taking that swing, but it isn't my money so it isn't as big a deal to me.

No we can't. We're hard capped...

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Well guys, that's the end of free agency for us unless Pat is trying hard to expand the trade or something.

Our big splash was a 35 yr old guard who shoots 42% from the field.

As my very laid back, apathetic friend always tells me...... "No use cryin now, it is what it is, cuh"

[Variable-X]

Nunn, now, is quite intriguing. The only way we can afford him is at the qualifying offer. So someone would have to do was offer him, say, $5 million, and we then cannot afford him. But would he sign anywhere for that or would he prefer to gamble on himself playing well for one more year in Miami?

Would be nice to have him back, then sign him for real next year.

He would give us an incredibly deep backcourt.

We could bring him back on a sub 10 million per year for multiple years if he was willing. We would just need to be ready to eat the tax bill, and if we are serious about competing and making a run then doubling a single digit salary in the millions is the price to pay for having a solid bench. We wouldn't have anywhere near the luxury tax penalty of say GSW. And I don't think we would be getting hit with repeaters if we were over this season. I wouldn't mind taking that swing, but it isn't my money so it isn't as big a deal to me.

No we can't. We're hard capped...

Yes and the hard cap is 146, we are trying to avoid the 136 luxury tax right now from my understanding. And unless I am mistaken the additional amount paid to a player due to luxury tax doesn't count towards the hard cap. On that point I might be mistaken as my experience with the hard cap is very limited.

[MorbidHEAT]

Bringing back everyone but Nunn lol.

We ain't ever gonna win a title with Bam at the 5. Bam is a 4. We need a strong 5.