2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Rapsfan07]

Don't need to take on Powell. We have Birch and they're pretty much the same except Birch is going to be way, way cheaper.

We need to sort the starting SG and C positions

[bboyskinnylegs]

Recent Lowry to Heat talks make me think we can get NOP involved and ship Dragic there for Lonzo. I am hoping Duncan Robinson is part of the deal too for about $12-15Mil but I doubt Miami would give up Precious and Duncan. Having Robinson, Ball or Dragic, and Trent would put us well over the tax though; might only be able to keep two.

Lonzo / Flynn
FVV / Trent / Duncan Robinson (Maybe) / Watson
OG / Barnes / Yuta
Siakam / Boucher
Noel (Non-tax MLE) / Precious / Birch (BLE) / Gillispie

I would waive Bembry and Baynes.

I think Lonzo is Chicago-bound

[Rapsobsessed7]

Does anyone have any ideas for where we can send Dragic? If we can somehow get a TPE back for him, I think we have a pretty good offseason shaping up here. Use the TPE to sign and trade for Spencer Dinwiddie, for example, and use the MLE from operating over the cap to bring back Birch and sign the 2nd round picks.

VanVleet / Flynn / Johnson
Dinwiddie / Trent Jr / Banton
Anunoby / Barnes / Watson
Siakam / Boucher / Watanabe
Birch / Achiuwa / Gillespie

With Justin Champagnie as a two-way and one more two-way player.

A potential lineup of Siakam / Anunoby / Barnes / Watanabe / Achiuwa is devastating. Switch everything, attack defensively and get out and run. Really fun style of play.

Unlikely as I think Indiana will want more but:

To TOR: Lamb or Holiday + Turner
To IND: Dragic + Boucher + Precious
To MIA: Lowry

Fred / Flynn
Trent Jr / Barnes
OG / Lamb or Holiday
Siakam / PF (FA MLE)
Turner / Birch

[bboyskinnylegs]

trying to sell Dragic to the teams that miss out on Lowry probably makes sense. The Sixers, Pelicans, Clippers and Mavs didn't have him as their first choice, but he might be considered better than alternatives they have available to them to address that need. New Orleans and Dallas would probably just try to absorb him with their capspace, giving us a TPE.

[Lord_Zedd]

trying to sell Dragic to the teams that miss out on Lowry probably makes sense. The Sixers, Pelicans, Clippers and Mavs didn't have him as their first choice, but he might be considered better than alternatives they have available to them to address that need. New Orleans and Dallas would probably just try to absorb him with their capspace, giving us a TPE.

We'll probably end up with a TPE but I'll be surprised if it's the full amount of Dragic's contract.

Dallas will most likely shove Powell's contract down our throat leaving us with half of the amount but with an extra year of Powell's contract.

If the Bulls want Lonzo at $20 million, they need help from the Pelicans unless they waive all their unguaranteed contracts. We could chime in and give Pelicans Dragic, where the Bulls can hand us Satoransky.....

I'm assuming these two teams will be operating as if Dragic is their plan c or d. Not plan A where they enter free agency right away with taking $20 million of Dragic the first chance they get.

[Dalek]

I know there are likely big man targets, but to me the priority should be targetting Spencer Dinwiddie. I just love the scoring ability, plays bigger than his size and has the heart of an alpha. He has long fit the two-way archetype of Toronto.

[rifai45]

Recent Lowry to Heat talks make me think we can get NOP involved and ship Dragic there for Lonzo. I am hoping Duncan Robinson is part of the deal too for about $12-15Mil but I doubt Miami would give up Precious and Duncan. Having Robinson, Ball or Dragic, and Trent would put us well over the tax though; might only be able to keep two.

Lonzo / Flynn
FVV / Trent / Duncan Robinson (Maybe) / Watson
OG / Barnes / Yuta
Siakam / Boucher
Noel (Non-tax MLE) / Precious / Birch (BLE) / Gillispie

I would waive Bembry and Baynes.

I think Lonzo is Chicago-bound

Yeah I noticed that afterwards. I would try to get Moses Brown from Dallas then. Let Dallas take Dragic for Brown, and ask Heat for Herro/Nunn instead of Precious. It's unlikely they'll part with Herro, but they're going after DeMar too apparently, so having Lowry, DeMar, Nunn/Herro, and Duncan (if they decide to keep them) might be congested/expensive. Getting Nunn or Herro for cheap would give us cap space to try and sign Jarrett Allen or Richuan Holmes. Holmes is expecting $60mil 4years so moving Dragic and waiving Baynes, (probably Boucher too) will give us room to pursue Allen or Holmes.

[rifai45]

I know there are likely big man targets, but to me the priority should be targetting Spencer Dinwiddie. I just love the scoring ability, plays bigger than his size and has the heart of an alpha. He has long fit the two-way archetype of Toronto.

Not willing to spend $20 million to take a chance on Dinwiddie.

[BillNyeBballGuy]

Lowry to Miami for Dragic+Precious + future 1st
- Same as rumored deal, but TO extracts a 1st for taking on Dragic and dealing Lowry

Raptors flip Dragic to Dallas and include a 2nd from the NOP trade.

Siakam to Golden State for Moody+Kuminga+Wiseman+Wiggins
- Raps rebuild with long armed players as is their MO and G-State cashes in on their youth for another title run

FVV to NOP for Ball S&T + 2 2nds
- NOP gets value for Ball who they don't want to re-sign and fill a big need. Raps get younger and add to the list of long wingspan players

Raptors also trade Boucher to NOP in a separate deal for any expiring + future 1st. This solidifies NOP front court and is a great fit next to Zion. Raps open up space in their front court for Wiseman and Precious

Raptors depth chart

Lonzo/Flynn
Trent/Moody/Bembry
Wiggins/Kuminga/Hood
OG/Barnes
Wiseman/Precious/Birch

[Dalek]

I know there are likely big man targets, but to me the priority should be targetting Spencer Dinwiddie. I just love the scoring ability, plays bigger than his size and has the heart of an alpha. He has long fit the two-way archetype of Toronto.

Not willing to spend $20 million to take a chance on Dinwiddie.

I always thought he was starting PG in the NBA given his great size and scoring ability. Dinwiddie in the previous season scored 20.6 points and 6.8 assists while the Nets were missing Irving and LaVert in that season at different points.

According to Synergy, only 11 players logged more isolation possessions than him in 2019-20. Despite the mammoth volume (205 possessions), he ranked in the 69th percentile in points per possession (0.951), which was seventh among the 12 players meeting that threshold. James Harden, Damian Lillard, Kawhi Leonard, Luka Doncic, Chris Paul and Jayson Tatum were the only players to finish above him. Dinwiddie blends both usage and production in a manner emulated by a select number of preeminent offensive orchestrators.

https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/the-catalyst-assessing-why-spencer-dinwiddie-should-be-coveted-nba-free-agent

Size wise you have a big PG/SG at 6’6” in bare feet plus a 6’8.5” wingspan. Despite the bigger size he is a bully getting to the rim. The .437 free-throw rate ranked eighth behind Joel Embiid, Harden, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Zion Williamson, Anthony Davis, Doncic and Young.

To me, Toronto really lacks that lead guard size/speed which Dinwiddie neatly fits.

[rifai45]

Yeah, but to create the cap space needed to sign him we would miss out on a chance to sign someone like Jarrett Allen/Holmes, or trade for Myles Turner, which is a bigger need.

The opportunity cost is too high for this gamble, I'd rather pursue one of those centers (preferably Turner or Allen). If we can't acquire any of them, then Raps should start looking for a bigger guard that can shoot and play on and off-ball. Dinwiddie probably won't be available by that time though, and options are very limited.

[Dalek]

My last Dinwiddie propaganda, considering many like Ball for some reason over him:

Read on Twitter

[agkagk]

As long as we’re drafting projects:

Boucher, Fred and siakam for Gordon, Murray and porter jr works in the trade machine.

….Gordon’s just to balance out salaries, it would make more sense if they use more useless players they could attach instead.

[Mr Swagtastic]

As long as we’re drafting projects:

Boucher, Fred and siakam for Gordon, Murray and porter jr works in the trade machine.

….Gordon’s just to balance out salaries, it would make more sense if they use more useless players they could attach instead.

Denver laughs at you there is no way they give you all three for Pascal Siakam Fred VanVleet + Chris Boucher. Denver highly values Michael Porter Jr as they should he's not a great defender or even above-average Defender but his scoring metrics are off the charts. Aaron Gordon also isn't a throw-in as well. He had a horrible playoff run we all know that but I think you will be ready next year to be effective.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Recent Lowry to Heat talks make me think we can get NOP involved and ship Dragic there for Lonzo. I am hoping Duncan Robinson is part of the deal too for about $12-15Mil but I doubt Miami would give up Precious and Duncan. Having Robinson, Ball or Dragic, and Trent would put us well over the tax though; might only be able to keep two.

Lonzo / Flynn
FVV / Trent / Duncan Robinson (Maybe) / Watson
OG / Barnes / Yuta
Siakam / Boucher
Noel (Non-tax MLE) / Precious / Birch (BLE) / Gillispie

I would waive Bembry and Baynes.

I think Lonzo is Chicago-bound

Yeah I noticed that afterwards. I would try to get Moses Brown from Dallas then. Let Dallas take Dragic for Brown, and ask Heat for Herro/Nunn instead of Precious. It's unlikely they'll part with Herro, but they're going after DeMar too apparently, so having Lowry, DeMar, Nunn/Herro, and Duncan (if they decide to keep them) might be congested/expensive. Getting Nunn or Herro for cheap would give us cap space to try and sign Jarrett Allen or Richuan Holmes. Holmes is expecting $60mil 4years so moving Dragic and waiving Baynes, (probably Boucher too) will give us room to pursue Allen or Holmes.

First Miami is not giving you Tyler hero or Kendrick Nunn instead of Precious. Secondly even if Cleveland didn't sign Jarrett Allen this afternoon I don't think they would have let him go for anything Toronto could offer him. Also the Kings weren't going to let Richaun Holmes walk as well. I don't know if Dallas would give you Moses Brown straight up for Goran Dragic unless Luka Doncic says he wants Dallas to make that move.

[edgehead411]

I would love if we could get Markannen on the Raptors. No official word on any movement yet but think he would do wonders in our system.

[dalton749]

I think the next best available option is to
Try and turn the Lowry s&t into
John Collins.

Offer him 4/100 and offer atlanta
Dragic, precious, 2nd, Boucher, future raps 1st

That would be pretty hard to turn down when they can do a Gallo/ capela front court next year and have already invested in okongwu. Boucher is a nice cheap replacement, as well as a Lou will replacement in dragic with a few picks to boot.

Fvv/Flynn
Trent
OG/Barnes
Siakam
Collins/birch

That’s a solid starting point for our new era team.

[Sticks]

Raptors need to go get oladipo and hope he can regain his indy form.

Fvv
Gtj
Og
Siakam
boucher

Precious
Dipo
Flynn
Barnes

[WeTheNorth123]

Raptors need to go get oladipo and hope he can regain his indy form.

Fvv
Gtj
Og
Siakam
boucher

Precious
Dipo
Flynn
Barnes

Loll this is what its come to

[DangerZone13]

As a way to swing this Dragic situation, I wonder if Portland would consider this to balance their roster.

TOR in- D.Powell, NAW. out-Dragic, Boucher
NO in- CJ out-Val, NAW
POR- Val, Kleber, Boucher out-CJ
DAL in- Dragic