Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[aq_ua]

The New Orleans Pelicans are landing Charlotte restricted free agent guard Devonte Graham on a four-year, $47M contract in a sign-and-trade deal,

and we gave D Rose 3/45... BRUH

lmao...

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Just realized the Knicks implication of this trade.

Now that Charlotte has a 1st round pick next year, they no longer need to rely on relaxing the protections on the pick they owe us to trade a future first round pick. At least, until next summer and they've already used the Pelicans pick (or conveyed their pick to us).

[Bob Ross]

The New Orleans Pelicans are landing Charlotte restricted free agent guard Devonte Graham on a four-year, $47M contract in a sign-and-trade deal,

and we gave D Rose 3/45... BRUH

lmao...

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Just realized the Knicks implication of this trade.

Now that Charlotte has a 1st round pick next year, they no longer need to rely on relaxing the protections on the pick they owe us to trade a future first round pick. At least, until next summer and they've already used the Pelicans pick (or conveyed their pick to us).

Oh wow good catch

[WargamesX]

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Just realized the Knicks implication of this trade.

Now that Charlotte has a 1st round pick next year, they no longer need to rely on relaxing the protections on the pick they owe us to trade a future first round pick. At least, until next summer and they've already used the Pelicans pick (or conveyed their pick to us).

Oh wow good catch

Why did us fans think the Knicks could actually outsmart someone

[BernardKing]

This is about drafting/developing well, and then when all these 3 year deals are up in the summer of '24, hmmm... any CAA free agents gonna be available that summer? Why yes. KAT and Booker. Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.

[Juco24]

This is about drafting/developing well, and then when all these 3 year deals are up in the summer of '24, hmmm... any CAA free agents gonna be available that summer? Why yes. KAT and Booker. Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.

Wish more understood this

[newyorker4ever]

Evan Fournier has literally done more winning than our entire roster combined but folks here just see that he’s not hood

You keep saying this but yet it's still such a meh signing to me and another playoff choker. Should be fun.

[Mr Loggins]

Sexton kind of has to be available given what they paid Allen, right? Gilbert has only really spent (understandably) when LeBron had them contending. I can't see them wanting to pay Sexton now with Garland there and all this money allocated to Allen.

why not? Gilbert is ultra wealthy and ultra competitive. at one point he was paying paying three coaches (Brown, Blatt, Lue) at the same time. Sexton may be traded, but it’ll be about fit, not saving dimes for the owner.

[Oscirus]

The New Orleans Pelicans are landing Charlotte restricted free agent guard Devonte Graham on a four-year, $47M contract in a sign-and-trade deal,

and we gave D Rose 3/45... BRUH

lmao...

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Did you see how we gave away our first rounders. Its not like they're important to us

[Adelheid]

The New Orleans Pelicans are landing Charlotte restricted free agent guard Devonte Graham on a four-year, $47M contract in a sign-and-trade deal,

and we gave D Rose 3/45... BRUH

lmao...

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Just realized the Knicks implication of this trade.

Now that Charlotte has a 1st round pick next year, they no longer need to rely on relaxing the protections on the pick they owe us to trade a future first round pick. At least, until next summer and they've already used the Pelicans pick (or conveyed their pick to us).

That sounds bad. And I was hoping they would negotiate with the Knicks to reduce the protection by giving a pick.

[aq_ua]

Pelicans gave up a 1st round pick for Devonte Graham

Just realized the Knicks implication of this trade.

Now that Charlotte has a 1st round pick next year, they no longer need to rely on relaxing the protections on the pick they owe us to trade a future first round pick. At least, until next summer and they've already used the Pelicans pick (or conveyed their pick to us).

That sounds bad. And I was hoping they would negotiate with the Knicks to reduce the protection.

Well, we're back to hoping the pick conveys in 2024, so, meh?

[ophdog]

This is about drafting/developing well, and then when all these 3 year deals are up in the summer of '24, hmmm... any CAA free agents gonna be available that summer? Why yes. KAT and Booker. Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.

Wish more understood this

Damn you guys accept 3 years of mediocrity like its nothing. Like the dudes that marry the first girl they meet

[Juco24]

This is about drafting/developing well, and then when all these 3 year deals are up in the summer of '24, hmmm... any CAA free agents gonna be available that summer? Why yes. KAT and Booker. Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.

Wish more understood this

Damn you guys accept 3 years of mediocrity like its nothing. Like the dudes that marry the first girl they meet

So please share what you would have found yesterday to be successful? What would you have done or like to have seen done

[GnarlesOakley]

This is about drafting/developing well, and then when all these 3 year deals are up in the summer of '24, hmmm... any CAA free agents gonna be available that summer? Why yes. KAT and Booker. Rome wasn't built in a day y'all.

The Knicks have promised us they are set to grab big free agents who want to play in NY for my entire life. It has happened once and it still didn't lead to a winning team. And Melo was better than KAT.

[ophdog]

Wish more understood this

Damn you guys accept 3 years of mediocrity like its nothing. Like the dudes that marry the first girl they meet

So please share what you would have found yesterday to be successful? What would you have done or like to have seen done

I would of known I wasn't getting anyone and done the following things:

Kept the 19th pick and not trade it for cap savings- drafted a back up center

With my cap space I would of looked for bad contracts and take draft picks

If none of those deals are out there Roll the cap and flexibility to next- Sign bench players like ours to 1&1's- you deal with the drop off of our bench guys to those bench guys if rose, Noel etc don't want the 1 and 1's

You maintain flexibility and corner the market on cap space and ability to grease other teams deals and stockpile assets that can lead to long term ability to trade for a star

[Juco24]

Damn you guys accept 3 years of mediocrity like its nothing. Like the dudes that marry the first girl they meet

So please share what you would have found yesterday to be successful? What would you have done or like to have seen done

I would of known I wasn't getting anyone and done the following things:

Kept the 19th pick and not trade it for cap savings- drafted a back up center

With my cap space I would of looked for bad contracts and take draft picks

If none of those deals are out there Roll the cap and flexibility to next- Sign bench players like ours to 1&1's- you deal with the drop off of our bench guys to those bench guys if rose, Noel etc don't want the 1 and 1's

You maintain flexibility and corner the market on cap space and ability to grease other teams deals and stockpile assets that can lead to long term ability to trade for a star

Didn't we try that before? (Cap space). LeBron spurned us. KD spurned us. And almost every other top free agent did the same. Harden called NY out for being such a horrible franchise. Lavine will probably resign. Not holding my breath on Beal. Who else is there that's worth mentioning? But Leon already has relationships built with many of the free agents coming when we'll have cap space again.

Is it great? Hells no. But I don't get the folk who say the FO didn't have a plan. It's obvious to me that they did. Hell, even bull ESPN stated as much. Dolan has tarnished the image of the Knicks and it won't be fixed overnight. I've gone through the Layden era, Isiah, Phil etc but this is honestly the first time since the Ewing era that I feel there's a light at the end of the long tunnel. I can wait 3 more years at the opportunity. Maybe won't lead to anything but it's no worse than what we've already suffered through

[ophdog]

So please share what you would have found yesterday to be successful? What would you have done or like to have seen done

I would of known I wasn't getting anyone and done the following things:

Kept the 19th pick and not trade it for cap savings- drafted a back up center

With my cap space I would of looked for bad contracts and take draft picks

If none of those deals are out there Roll the cap and flexibility to next- Sign bench players like ours to 1&1's- you deal with the drop off of our bench guys to those bench guys if rose, Noel etc don't want the 1 and 1's

You maintain flexibility and corner the market on cap space and ability to grease other teams deals and stockpile assets that can lead to long term ability to trade for a star

Didn't we try that before? (Cap space). LeBron spurned us. KD spurned us. And almost every other top free agent did the same. Harden called NY out for being such a horrible franchise. Lavine will probably resign. Not holding my breath on Beal. Who else is there that's worth mentioning? But Leon already has relationships built with many of the free agents coming when we'll have cap space again.

Is it great? Hells no. But I don't get the folk who say the FO didn't have a plan. It's obvious to me that they did. Hell, even bull ESPN stated as much. Dolan has tarnished the image of the Knicks and it won't be fixed overnight. I've gone through the Layden era, Isiah, Phil etc but this is honestly the first time since the Ewing era that I feel there's a light at the end of the long tunnel. I can wait 3 more years at the opportunity. Maybe won't lead to anything but it's no worse than what we've already suffered through

OK so you fall in the camp of someone that is completely fine with being mediocre and hey that's cool. If Leon and team come out and say we just want to compete and we are aware no one wants to come here and for the next 3 years our plan is to just fight to make the playoffs than we can accept that and give up hope on building a contender. They won't come out and say that but that is exactly what there actions show

[Juco24]

I would of known I wasn't getting anyone and done the following things:

Kept the 19th pick and not trade it for cap savings- drafted a back up center

With my cap space I would of looked for bad contracts and take draft picks

If none of those deals are out there Roll the cap and flexibility to next- Sign bench players like ours to 1&1's- you deal with the drop off of our bench guys to those bench guys if rose, Noel etc don't want the 1 and 1's

You maintain flexibility and corner the market on cap space and ability to grease other teams deals and stockpile assets that can lead to long term ability to trade for a star

Didn't we try that before? (Cap space). LeBron spurned us. KD spurned us. And almost every other top free agent did the same. Harden called NY out for being such a horrible franchise. Lavine will probably resign. Not holding my breath on Beal. Who else is there that's worth mentioning? But Leon already has relationships built with many of the free agents coming when we'll have cap space again.

Is it great? Hells no. But I don't get the folk who say the FO didn't have a plan. It's obvious to me that they did. Hell, even bull ESPN stated as much. Dolan has tarnished the image of the Knicks and it won't be fixed overnight. I've gone through the Layden era, Isiah, Phil etc but this is honestly the first time since the Ewing era that I feel there's a light at the end of the long tunnel. I can wait 3 more years at the opportunity. Maybe won't lead to anything but it's no worse than what we've already suffered through

OK so you fall in the camp of someone that is completely fine with being mediocre and hey that's cool. If Leon and team come out and say we just want to compete and we are aware no one wants to come here and for the next 3 years our plan is to just fight to make the playoffs than we can accept that and give up hope on building a contender. They won't come out and say that but that is exactly what there actions show

I feel you... but again I've seen the song and dance called "quick fix" before and I didn't like it. I'm going to give Leon a real chance before saying he doesn't know what he's doing

[ophdog]

Didn't we try that before? (Cap space). LeBron spurned us. KD spurned us. And almost every other top free agent did the same. Harden called NY out for being such a horrible franchise. Lavine will probably resign. Not holding my breath on Beal. Who else is there that's worth mentioning? But Leon already has relationships built with many of the free agents coming when we'll have cap space again.

Is it great? Hells no. But I don't get the folk who say the FO didn't have a plan. It's obvious to me that they did. Hell, even bull ESPN stated as much. Dolan has tarnished the image of the Knicks and it won't be fixed overnight. I've gone through the Layden era, Isiah, Phil etc but this is honestly the first time since the Ewing era that I feel there's a light at the end of the long tunnel. I can wait 3 more years at the opportunity. Maybe won't lead to anything but it's no worse than what we've already suffered through

OK so you fall in the camp of someone that is completely fine with being mediocre and hey that's cool. If Leon and team come out and say we just want to compete and we are aware no one wants to come here and for the next 3 years our plan is to just fight to make the playoffs than we can accept that and give up hope on building a contender. They won't come out and say that but that is exactly what there actions show

I feel you... but again I've seen the song and dance called "quick fix" before and I didn't like it. I'm going to give Leon a real chance before saying he doesn't know what he's doing

Im with you on the quick Fix.It is a long fix. But what we just did was say we don't really need a fix we are good with what we have

[N8isScofield]

Sexton kind of has to be available given what they paid Allen, right? Gilbert has only really spent (understandably) when LeBron had them contending. I can't see them wanting to pay Sexton now with Garland there and all this money allocated to Allen.

why not? Gilbert is ultra wealthy and ultra competitive. at one point he was paying paying three coaches (Brown, Blatt, Lue) at the same time. Sexton may be traded, but it’ll be about fit, not saving dimes for the owner.

Did you actually read my post? The only time Gilbert has ever spent or behaved competitively was in LeBron's second stint in Cleveland because he knew he had to in order to keep him and they were in the Finals every year. His spending without LeBron on the roster has been far more frugal. Yeah he's wealthy but that doesn't mean he wants to go into luxury tax territory for 2nd round exits. Use your brain.

[KnicksGadfly]

Evan Fournier has literally done more winning than our entire roster combined but folks here just see that he’s not hood

You keep saying this but yet it's still such a meh signing to me and another playoff choker. Should be fun.

What winning? I like Fournier but you going to label the Orlando seasons as winning? Or the previous Celtics season?