Official: DeRozan! Player of the Week p69

[bad knees]

How about a three way:

Bulls in: DDR
Bulls out: Lauri and Coby

MIN in: Lauri
MIN out: FRP

SA in: Coby, FRP
SA out: DDR

Don't see the point in adding coby at all

Spurs and bulls got the same agenda seek an asset for a player so they don't lose them for nothing. Minny needs to add whatever extra asset if they want in the 3 team deal.

You forget that BYC will likely apply to Lauri. If Lauri signs a contract for $16 M per year, he will only count as $8 M going out for salary matching purposes. Assuming that DDR’s starting salary is $20 M or more, there’s no way for a straight Lauri for DDR trade to occur. Bulls need to send out more salary to make it work.

[GoBlue72391]

Lauri for Derozan then you trade Thad to Wolves for Vanderbilt and Culver.

We should trade Vuch while we're at it and field a team composed entirely of guards and wings.

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[weneeda2guard]

How about a three way:

Bulls in: DDR
Bulls out: Lauri and Coby

MIN in: Lauri
MIN out: FRP

SA in: Coby, FRP
SA out: DDR

Don't see the point in adding coby at all

Spurs and bulls got the same agenda seek an asset for a player so they don't lose them for nothing. Minny needs to add whatever extra asset if they want in the 3 team deal.

You forget that BYC will likely apply to Lauri. If Lauri signs a contract for $16 M per year, he will only count as $8 M going out for salary matching purposes. Assuming that DDR’s starting salary is $20 M or more, there’s no way for a straight Lauri for DDR trade to occur. Bulls need to send out more salary to make it work.

I agree but that is what aminu is attached for

Coby is one of our most valuable assets. Can't use him as some throw in for derozan. If we going to use coby we should just make coby the center of the package and send him with salary to the spurs for derozan. Derozan not worth 2 of our good assets especially when he wants to leave and is gone anyway.

[ATRAIN53]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

[Michael Jackson]

Don't see the point in adding coby at all

Spurs and bulls got the same agenda seek an asset for a player so they don't lose them for nothing. Minny needs to add whatever extra asset if they want in the 3 team deal.

You forget that BYC will likely apply to Lauri. If Lauri signs a contract for $16 M per year, he will only count as $8 M going out for salary matching purposes. Assuming that DDR’s starting salary is $20 M or more, there’s no way for a straight Lauri for DDR trade to occur. Bulls need to send out more salary to make it work.

I agree but that is what aminu is attached for

Coby is one of our most valuable assets. Can't use him as some throw in for derozan. If we going to use coby we should just make coby the center of the package and send him with salary to the spurs for derozan. Derozan not worth 2 of our good assets especially when he wants to leave and is gone anyway.

The same can be said of Lauri though… if you have to add Coby you do it honestly. Lauri is a sunk cost at this point if you can turn those two into something it is still a net positive instead of losing both. Obviously if you can keep Coby or use him in another deal for sure you do it. Getting DD doesn’t make it a lost asset though as he can still be movable down the road too, even if he falls off a Cliff his 3rd year would be a sizable salary match.

[Michael Jackson]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

He sucks in the playoffs and always will but honestly he wouldn’t be option one or two on this team, which was his role in Toronto and SA initially. He is 3rd or 4th option and he is an upgrade there. He is awful as 1-2 but if he is your 4th (say behind ball or PWill) that’s a good spot. Injury protection and depth. It’s not awesome but it is an upgrade. I never liked the guy but can see the fit here. Zach is the alpha so the pecking order is already established.

[bad knees]

Don't see the point in adding coby at all

Spurs and bulls got the same agenda seek an asset for a player so they don't lose them for nothing. Minny needs to add whatever extra asset if they want in the 3 team deal.

You forget that BYC will likely apply to Lauri. If Lauri signs a contract for $16 M per year, he will only count as $8 M going out for salary matching purposes. Assuming that DDR’s starting salary is $20 M or more, there’s no way for a straight Lauri for DDR trade to occur. Bulls need to send out more salary to make it work.

I agree but that is what aminu is attached for

Coby is one of our most valuable assets. Can't use him as some throw in for derozan. If we going to use coby we should just make coby the center of the package and send him with salary to the spurs for derozan. Derozan not worth 2 of our good assets especially when he wants to leave and is gone anyway.

I am not aware that the divorce between DDR and the Spurs is so clean. If DDR was really so set on leaving the Spurs and the Spurs were fine with it, I think we would have seen a lot more activity re DDR yesterday. How can you say that DDR “is gone anyway” given that almost all the FA cash has been used up?

[xpmar9x]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

DeRozan was playing the 4 last year. Considering our only forwards are Williams, Thad, & Brown Jr and we'd likely have to deal Thad for DeRozan... I'd be all for it still. He'd be a legitimate 3rd scorer.

[gobullschi]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

The Bulls need a guy that can get to the FT stripe…

[SaNdMiRkS]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

Why not just outright admit that you don't watch him play?... This is far more exciting than it'd have been a few yrs ago, as he's considerably better now than he was back then

Also, literally everyone is lining up to pay him lol. He's been heavily linked to several teams. Chicago appears to be the frontrunner because A.) DDR is like family with Marc Eversley from their time spent together in Toronto, and B.) Chicago made major moves this off-season & the lineup is tailormade for present-day DDR. He provides precisely what the Bulls are yearning for: efficient distribution & FTAs. His defense isn't good, but that's why they've acquired Caruso/Ball/TBJ

[PaKii94]

Ideally we'd move Thad+filler to get DD. I saw that spurs have the youngest roster in the league now. Thad can be a vet mentor 8)

[Chi town]

This might have been exciting a few years ago-

but there a reason no one is lining up to pay him.
He's a SG who really doesn't "shoot the lights out"

Guy is really a slasher to the basket. He needs his 7 FTA PG to get to his 20 PPG average.

I mean it would be nice to have another guy who can get to the FT stripe, but not at the salary this guy could command.
His playoff stats and performances really have never blown me away......

Disagree.

DD at PF we play 5 out with 4 3pt shooters. He will have a ridiculous amount of space to slash. Him creating offense for himself and others is huge. He can also mentor PW and help him develop.

[Chi town]

Ideally we'd move Thad+filler to get DD. I saw that spurs have the youngest roster in the league now. Thad can be a vet mentor 8)

I think Thad is a great fit in MIN where they could use him inside as KAT plays perimeter. Good vet to help them win.

Thad and Vuc do the same thing. Vuc does it way better.

Gimme Culver and Vanderbilt for Thad.

[umfan83]

Is there actually any smoke here outside of the Windhorst report yesterday, or are we all just discussing it hoping that it will happen?

[drosEshe]

out of curiousity, is ZAC latest media contract extension hinders the LAURI for DEMAR trade? or can still be done regardless of contract is done today or next year


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[Andi Obst]

out of curiousity, is ZAC latest media contract extension hinders the LAURI for DEMAR trade? or can still be done regardless of contract is done today or next year


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We’re operating over the cap, which rules out a Zach extension this offseason if I’m not mistaken.

[nomorezorro]

He sucks in the playoffs and always will but honestly he wouldn’t be option one or two on this team, which was his role in Toronto and SA initially. He is 3rd or 4th option and he is an upgrade there. He is awful as 1-2 but if he is your 4th (say behind ball or PWill) that’s a good spot. Injury protection and depth. It’s not awesome but it is an upgrade. I never liked the guy but can see the fit here. Zach is the alpha so the pecking order is already established.

in no universe would demar derozan be below lonzo ball or patrick williams in the offensive pecking order lol

[drosEshe]

out of curiousity, is ZAC latest media contract extension hinders the LAURI for DEMAR trade? or can still be done regardless of contract is done today or next year


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We’re operating over the cap, which rules out a Zach extension this offseason if I’m not mistaken.

i dont understand, you can always go beyond the cap if ur resigning/retain ur own player ( bird rights ) hence much more on ZAC if were talking contract extension..


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[Bluewaterheaven]

He sucks in the playoffs and always will but honestly he wouldn’t be option one or two on this team, which was his role in Toronto and SA initially. He is 3rd or 4th option and he is an upgrade there. He is awful as 1-2 but if he is your 4th (say behind ball or PWill) that’s a good spot. Injury protection and depth. It’s not awesome but it is an upgrade. I never liked the guy but can see the fit here. Zach is the alpha so the pecking order is already established.

in no universe would demar derozan be below lonzo ball or patrick williams in the offensive pecking order lol

Depends. He would be below ball when it comes to driving the offense as a primary ball handler. That would be Ball, Lavine, DDR. He would be behind Lavine and Vuc as a primary scorer... So that does put him somewhere around the 3rd/4th option on this team.

[maxhatter]

He sucks in the playoffs and always will but honestly he wouldn’t be option one or two on this team, which was his role in Toronto and SA initially. He is 3rd or 4th option and he is an upgrade there. He is awful as 1-2 but if he is your 4th (say behind ball or PWill) that’s a good spot. Injury protection and depth. It’s not awesome but it is an upgrade. I never liked the guy but can see the fit here. Zach is the alpha so the pecking order is already established.

in no universe would demar derozan be below lonzo ball or patrick williams in the offensive pecking order lol

Agreed....demar derozen has shown that he can still score in this league