Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie

[badinage]

The pieces we have to play with, assuming Dinwiddie is acquired with only the exception:

Kuzma
Harrell
Bertans
Bryant

And if we make a big swing for a frontcourt player, we add:

Rui

That’s 5 tradeable pieces.

[nate33]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

[FAH1223]

Mayo is saying that with Woj tweeting a deal is near, that means Tommy is his source.

Shams is close to Dinwiddie. The Wizards are a Woj team as Mayo puts it.

[badinage]

If Tommy Shepp pulls this off without ANY players going back — with just the exception — I mean … pretty great.

And — AND — we’d have pieces to use to bring back a Siakam.

Imagine Siakam with this lineup. Switchable, long, covers mucho ground. WITH Gafford.

Guy’s the ideal PF for this team. And he can shoot from range. So, spreadability, to go along with two shot creators in Beal and Dinwiddie, a bunch of shooters, a versatile Kirilenko-like (or at this point, -lite) in Avdija, wing defenders in Avdija, KCP, etc.

[badinage]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

That’s why Rui needs to show out in the Olympics.

I like him, and think he’s going to get better.

But what we NEED is a PF that can switch, close out, board, and hit from range.

With THAT piece, this team is in the conversation — and … maybe … just a piece (and health and fortune) away.

[WallToWall]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

On paper, this is a good lineup, provided they can play as a team.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

That’s why Rui needs to show out in the Olympics.

I like him, and think he’s going to get better.

But what we NEED is a PF that can switch, close out, board, and hit from range.

With THAT piece, this team is in the conversation — and … maybe … just a piece (and health and fortune) away.

I think we just need to make Rui the STARTER-at small forward and not KCP. Kispert has come off the bench for Hachimura before. Rui is better at SF IMO

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Dinwiddie, Beal, Hachimura, Siakim, Bryant/Gafford

That team is as strong as the Phoenix team that played in the NBA finals this season.

[nate33]

I had thought that the Aaron Holiday acquisition was made with some TPE leftover from a previous trade that I didn't know about. But it's possible that the exception to absorb him is coming from the Westbrook trade, which would mean that the Wizards only have about $15.6M in surplus exceptions to absorb Dinwiddie, not $19.5M. With that the case, there's no way to pay Dinwiddie the $18.45M he would need in his first year to get to $60M over 3 years.

Another wrinkle must be involved. Perhaps we are swapping Harrell for Jordan. Or perhaps we are sending them Hutchison. Or maybe Hutchison goes to Indy.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Around $20 mil is fair considering the market. The biggest concerns are the injury history, the spotty 3 pt shooting and the defense but he could teach a master class at getting all the way to the rim off the bounce. He's a very good offensive player in spite of the inconsistent 3.

I do think he necessitates starting Gafford to cover up his defensive shortcomings.

Instead of Sharife Cooper, Tommy Shepherd acquired a known NBA commodity.

[Kanyewest]

In his last healthy season two years ago, Dinwiddie led the Nets to a 27-25 record in the 52 games that Kyrie missed. His best teammates were Jarret Allen, Joe Harris, Caris Levert (who missed 28 games), Taurean Prince, and Garrett Temple. He is a good player.

Dinwiddie played in 44 of the 52 games that Kyrie missed since he missed the bubble due to testing positive for Covid. So by my calculations the Nets were 22-22 without Irving when Dinwiddie played- and were 30-34 when Dinwiddie played with Irving. The Nets were 5-3 in the bubble without both Irving and Dinwiddie.

Some of the contracts thrown out for those guys recently

Jarrett Allen - 5 years 100 million
Joe Harris - 4 years 75 million
Caris Lavert - 3 years 52 million
Taurean Prince - 2 years 25 million
Garrett TEmple- 1 year 5 Million

Not the worst talented bunch but the Wizards are certainly look to be more talented on paper- granted so is the rest of the Eastern Conference looks stronger in the 2021-22 season.

[Rafael122]

In his last healthy season two years ago, Dinwiddie led the Nets to a 27-25 record in the 52 games that Kyrie missed. His best teammates were Jarret Allen, Joe Harris, Caris Levert (who missed 28 games), Taurean Prince, and Garrett Temple. He is a good player.

Dinwiddie played in 44 of the 52 games that Kyrie missed since he missed the bubble due to testing positive for Covid. So by my calculations the Nets were 22-22 without Irving when Dinwiddie played- and were 30-34 when Dinwiddie played with Irving. The Nets were 5-3 in the bubble without both Irving and Dinwiddie.

Some of the contracts thrown out for those guys recently

Jarrett Allen - 5 years 100 million
Joe Harris - 4 years 75 million
Caris Lavert - 3 years 52 million
Taurean Prince - 2 years 25 million
Garrett TEmple- 1 year 5 Million

Not the worst talented bunch but the Wizards are certainly look to be more talented on paper- granted so is the rest of the Eastern Conference looks stronger in the 2021-22 season.

The East is in a flux. I'll have to wait until the dust settles, but I've got no idea if ATL will be able to recapture that magic. Knicks are in that boat where they also overperformed. They're essentially bringing back the same roster.

Boston's probably taking a step back.

Obviously BKN and Milwaukee are the top 2, Philly is entirely dependent on what they do with Simmons but if he's back, they are probably a 3 seed. Miami is probably 4th as a default.

[nate33]

I had thought that the Aaron Holiday acquisition was made with some TPE leftover from a previous trade that I didn't know about. But it's possible that the exception to absorb him is coming from the Westbrook trade, which would mean that the Wizards only have about $15.6M in surplus exceptions to absorb Dinwiddie, not $19.5M. With that the case, there's no way to pay Dinwiddie the $18.45M he would need in his first year to get to $60M over 3 years.

Another wrinkle must be involved. Perhaps we are swapping Harrell for Jordan. Or perhaps we are sending them Hutchison. Or maybe Hutchison goes to Indy.

One easy way to make it work is to convince Indy to take back Hutchison as part of the Holiday trade. We could also send the cash to pay Hutchison's $4M salary.

That would leave us with the full $19.5M virtual TPE to use to absorb Dinwiddie.

[Kanyewest]

In his last healthy season two years ago, Dinwiddie led the Nets to a 27-25 record in the 52 games that Kyrie missed. His best teammates were Jarret Allen, Joe Harris, Caris Levert (who missed 28 games), Taurean Prince, and Garrett Temple. He is a good player.

Dinwiddie played in 44 of the 52 games that Kyrie missed since he missed the bubble due to testing positive for Covid. So by my calculations the Nets were 22-22 without Irving when Dinwiddie played- and were 30-34 when Dinwiddie played with Irving. The Nets were 5-3 in the bubble without both Irving and Dinwiddie.

Some of the contracts thrown out for those guys recently

Jarrett Allen - 5 years 100 million
Joe Harris - 4 years 75 million
Caris Lavert - 3 years 52 million
Taurean Prince - 2 years 25 million
Garrett TEmple- 1 year 5 Million

Not the worst talented bunch but the Wizards are certainly look to be more talented on paper- granted so is the rest of the Eastern Conference looks stronger in the 2021-22 season.

The East is in a flux. I'll have to wait until the dust settles, but I've got no idea if ATL will be able to recapture that magic. Knicks are in that boat where they also overperformed. They're essentially bringing back the same roster.

Boston's probably taking a step back.

Obviously BKN and Milwaukee are the top 2, Philly is entirely dependent on what they do with Simmons but if he's back, they are probably a 3 seed. Miami is probably 4th as a default.

True, there is much change to East this season compared to last. But I was trying to say that the rest of the Eastern Conference looks stronger in 2021-22 than in the 2019-20 season when Dinwiddie played with the Nets when they made the playoffs.

[NatP4]

I’d expect to see some lineups featuring Beal, Dinwiddie and Holiday. This will be a particularly effective lineup if Holiday can get his 3pt shooting back up to around 39%.

Though only 6-0 Holiday is long and physical and can hold his own defensively.

If it comes down to trading one of them, I’m moving Harrell, not Bryant. I’m curious to see how the Gafford/Bryant duo at C works out.

Harrell is significantly better than Bryant. Harrell is probably one of the best role players in the NBA. His on/off impact is star level.

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[Hidden Eye]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

That team wouldn't go anywhere in the playoffs.

KCP isn't gonna be able to guard the Wings in the East.

[dckingsfan]

If Toronto would trade Siakam for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma, it would sure be interesting. I'm guessing they can get more elsewhere.

It would leave us with:

PG Dinwiddie/Holiday
SG Beal/Kispert
SF KCP/Avdija
PF Siakam/Bertans
C Gafford/Bryant

Heck, we could even include Kispert and just replace him in the lineup with Mathews.

That team wouldn't go anywhere in the playoffs.

KCP isn't gonna be able to guard the Wings in the East.

It would be terrific to Swap KCP for Rui and have him start as your SF. But I guess that wouldn't happen. They probably wouldn't go for Rui + Harrell + Kuzma so almost certainly not for KCP + Harrell + Kuzma.