Official: DeRozan! Player of the Week p69

[Jcool0]

Not a fan at all, I don’t think DeRozan moves the needle offensively (not a huge floor spacer) and not even close to impacting the floor defensively.

I will say, it makes the Bulls more interesting.

7 asts and 7 ftas. One of most efficiency slashers in the league. I would say all of that helps our offense. We have plenty of guys that can shoot 3s.

Again, his work will be in the same area where Vuc will want to operate and you are paying him to score. He is the quintessential, “needs the ball to score effectively”. Let’s not get into his lack of defensive, well anything.

Are you telling me a NBA player needs the ball to score?

[ChiefILL53]

Just watched a video by Mike Korzemba and he mentioned that Demar played like 69% of his minutes for the spurs last season at PF...so maybe Paw stays at the 3 and Demar starts at the 4 for us?

[mtron32]

Six months ago, I didn't want Nikola Vucevic. Six months ago, I didn't want Lonzo Ball. Six months ago, I didn't want Demar Derozan.

Now they're all here on big contracts and three first rounders gone. Well…at least I can't say Karnisovas isn't trying stuff, unlike last summer.

I am not a fan particularly of any of the acquisitions myself. I would have never targeted those guys myself. Maybe Ball because of fit. That being said the collective of players aren’t on the worst contracts and the talent floor has been raised. Let’s see if this mish mash can play together. We have some depth now but Vuc hasn’t panned out yet to a positive on a small sample size, let’s see what this squad looks like after a training camp. Considering options available it wasn’t the worst play… better than sitting on the hands GarPax woukd do (or they woukd strike out on waiting for Kawhi and max Ball out and call it a year)

Nah, they'd max out Schroeder and call it a year.

[Rowland Garrett]

On a smaller level, Michael Reinsdorf deserves credit for getting rid of legacy hires, bringing in smart outsiders, and getting the hell out of their way.

YES!

Make that hell yes. I am so far behind reading up, but I was thinking about a post saying we need to hear "MICHAEL, MICHAEL, MICHAEL" at the UC this year. And I don't mean God Michael. MR has allowed this to Happen!

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Imagine thinking a guy that put up 22, 7, 4 on 50% from the field, 59% TS% is going to be bad for the offense of the team that ranked 21st in the league in ppg.

Who hurt some of you? This team is a top 10 offense at worst next year. They’re going to punish teams, who won’t know who to defend for 48 minutes.

[FriedRise]

We now have THREE 20+ppg efficient scorers who have completely different skillsets and can score in a variety of ways. Our team is so stacked that our big free agent all star level talent signing is gonna be the THIRD option on this team.

I'm still in shock since just one year ago we literally only had Zach and a bunch of Titos.

[VolumePoster]

Let’s not pretend the fit is perfect. But damn, there is serious talent on this team. 1-5, serious talent. It’s conceivable that, at some point, every one of our starters may make or have made an allstar team.

[WindyCityBorn]

Just watched a video by Mike Korzemba and he mentioned that Demar played like 69% of his minutes for the spurs last season at PF...so maybe Paw stays at the 3 and Demar starts at the 4 for us?

I just watched that too. A PF that only average 4 rebounds is pretty bad though. And he obviously cannot guard a real PF inside either.

[DJhitek]

7 asts and 7 ftas. One of most efficiency slashers in the league. I would say all of that helps our offense. We have plenty of guys that can shoot 3s.

Again, his work will be in the same area where Vuc will want to operate and you are paying him to score. He is the quintessential, “needs the ball to score effectively”. Let’s not get into his lack of defensive, well anything.

Vuc can score from anywhere. He will still get his post opportunities.

Sure, he also slows the pace of the offense. I mean, if there is no concern offensively, then is there a concern defensively?

[WindyCityBorn]

Let’s not pretend the fit is perfect. But damn, there is serious talent on this team. 1-5, serious talent. It’s conceivable that, at some point, every one of our starters may make or have made an allstar team.

We get two all-stars this year. Probably Zach and Vuc again. Possibly Derozan over Vuc, but the competition on the perimeter is much more fierce than at C.

[DJhitek]

Are you telling me a NBA player needs the ball to score?

A novel concept I know.

[BigUps]

This is a town that loves team defense. We have a team of awful defenders. Caruso and Williams can defend, the rest is incredibly questionable.

That’s my only complaint with the Derozen signing. His defense is really poor. The guy can score, but he can also give up a ton of points.

[FriedRise]

Just watched a video by Mike Korzemba and he mentioned that Demar played like 69% of his minutes for the spurs last season at PF...so maybe Paw stays at the 3 and Demar starts at the 4 for us?

Both those guys and also Lonzo are so similarly sized that the 2, 3, and 4 spots will be interchangeable. Zach will be the shortest starter we have at 6'5.

[WindyCityBorn]

Again, his work will be in the same area where Vuc will want to operate and you are paying him to score. He is the quintessential, “needs the ball to score effectively”. Let’s not get into his lack of defensive, well anything.

Vuc can score from anywhere. He will still get his post opportunities.

Sure, he also slows the pace of the offense. I mean, if there is no concern offensively, then is there a concern defensively?

Yes defense is absolutely a concern. Hopefully we address the lack of defensive bigs or just bigs in general next..

[VolumePoster]

Let’s not pretend the fit is perfect. But damn, there is serious talent on this team. 1-5, serious talent. It’s conceivable that, at some point, every one of our starters may make or have made an allstar team.

We get two all-stars this year. Probably Zach and Vuc again. Possibly Derozan over Vuc, but the competition on the perimeter is much more fierce than at C.

I just meant “at some point in their careers”. Agreed Zach and Vuc the best bets. A lot will depend on team success.

I am ready for the season.

[bad knees]

Coming from a Raptors fan whose followed him from basically day 1:

You guys basically got a PG in DD. He’s also a top 3 iso scorer in the league (primarily from the post). His playmaking is really damn good especially when it comes to finding shooters. So while he won’t shoot threes (don’t fall for it if he shoots a few to start the year, he will revert to completely avoiding them), he still generates lots of 3’s. He’s also playing with 4 shooters so it don’t really matter.

His defence is really bad but if he’s not having to carry your offence he can be slightly below average at best.

Your team will be fun to watch. But the Bulls would be better off putting the ball in DD’s hands over Lavine in crunch time as playmaker imo. That will let Zach dominate off the catch. DeRozan isn’t a threat off ball. Also, Lonzo is perfect playing off DD as a secondary playmaker.

Fun addition.

I am inclined to take this Raptors fan's advice regarding crunch time - put the ball in DD's hands and use Lavine off ball. I know Zach has improved in clutch situations but his ballhandling still limits his effectiveness. Let DD work off a screen and then get the ball to Zach with some space. Bulls will be much improved at the end of games.

Billy is going to have to manage a lot of egos/expectations/roles to make this work. I am inclined at this point to say that DD and ZL are our key initiators, with both Lonzo and Vuc looking at smaller roles than they probably would like. I know that the Lonzo stans want him to develop into an all-star, and I certainly hope he does, but I am not interested in giving him unearned opportunities to develop his ability to be an on ball playmaker. Vuc will continue to play a key role offensively, but if I were BD, I would be limiting his post isos. We should not be routinely feeding him down low - very inefficient scoring. We also need to make sure that our pace is high, notwithstanding Vuc's presence. We slowed down a lot after acquiring him last year. With Lonzo and the other additions, we need to be running at every opportunity.

[Jcool0]

This is a town that loves team defense. We have a team of awful defenders. Caruso and Williams can defend, the rest is incredibly questionable.

That’s my only complaint with the Derozen signing. His defense is really poor. The guy can score, but he can also give up a ton of points.

Lonzo can defend. Williams didnt defend well last year.

[Leslie Forman]

If you can name some better potential fits that we could have acquired for similar assets I feel free to inform me. Stand pat with what had is not a viable alternative to me either.

The AAV for Devonte Graham and Richaun Holmes combined costs less than Derozan and barely more than Lonzo.

[NecessaryEvil]

We now have THREE 20+ppg efficient scorers who have completely different skillsets and can score in a variety of ways. Our team is so stacked that our big free agent all star level talent signing is gonna be the THIRD option on this team.

Having this new found talent plus a front office like AK and ME, whom which give me Daryl Morey vibes, I can’t help but be an extremely excited Bulls fan again.


Can’t imagine how Zach feels. Imagine how much better he’ll be with all those weapons besides him

Sheesh ….

[WindyCityBorn]

This is a town that loves team defense. We have a team of awful defenders. Caruso and Williams can defend, the rest is incredibly questionable.

That’s my only complaint with the Derozen signing. His defense is really poor. The guy can score, but he can also give up a ton of points.

Ball isn’t really questionable.