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Re: Offseason 

Post#201 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:51 pm

Snell must really be passive and selectively picking his shots to have that sort of efficiency at that low volume. Most coaches would push more and more through a player who is shooting like that until their efficiency goes down closer to the mean. Wonder how his defense will look too.

Maybe Billups can unlock him and get some more ppg from him while keeping him acceptably efficient.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#202 » by red_power » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:55 pm

Snell isn't undersized for SF spot so I do not understand the last signing completely. Unless Olshey views him as a backup bigman though.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#203 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:02 pm

under stress...Olshey always returns to his comfort zone: dumpster diving for injury-prone white centers and 6'3 guards
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Re: Offseason 

Post#204 » by Soulyss » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:14 pm

red_power wrote:Snell isn't undersized for SF spot so I do not understand the last signing completely. Unless Olshey views him as a backup bigman though.


Snell couldn't sniff minutes for ATL in the Playoffs... if he is anything more than the 12th man on the bench we're in deep ****.

Let's be honest, we know that the only chance of Improvement for this team is via Trade. They seem unlikely to use the TP-MLE because of the hard-cap being so close.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#205 » by TBFan4Life » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:15 pm

This better be a precursor to a cj trade or this will be one of the most underwhelming off-season in recent memory!!
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Re: Offseason 

Post#206 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:18 pm

Soulyss wrote:
red_power wrote:Snell isn't undersized for SF spot so I do not understand the last signing completely. Unless Olshey views him as a backup bigman though.


Snell couldn't sniff minutes for ATL in the Playoffs... if he is anything more than the 12th man on the bench we're in deep ****.

Let's be honest, we know that the only chance of Improvement for this team is via Trade. They seem unlikely to use the TP-MLE because of the hard-cap being so close.


Why are we hard capped?
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Re: Offseason 

Post#207 » by Soulyss » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:25 pm

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red_power wrote:Snell isn't undersized for SF spot so I do not understand the last signing completely. Unless Olshey views him as a backup bigman though.


Snell couldn't sniff minutes for ATL in the Playoffs... if he is anything more than the 12th man on the bench we're in deep ****.

Let's be honest, we know that the only chance of Improvement for this team is via Trade. They seem unlikely to use the TP-MLE because of the hard-cap being so close.


Why are we hard capped?


Maybe I am misunderstanding, but using the TP-MLE will trigger us with teh hard cap which will make trades more difficult... so I doubt they will use it.
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Post#208 » by JasonStern » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:34 pm

Honestly surprised the Blazers didn't make a run at Malik Monk. Reclamation project and a 6'3" shooting guard all in one.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#209 » by red_power » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:40 pm

But Olshey can still make a push for Isaiah Thomas!
Don't forget this guy has an all-star appearance on his palmares, so it might finally be the right move to convince Dame that things are going in the right direction.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#210 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:03 pm

Soulyss wrote:Maybe I am misunderstanding, but using the TP-MLE will trigger us with teh hard cap which will make trades more difficult... so I doubt they will use it.


that is not correct

using any amount of the MLE OVER the tax-MLE triggers the hard cap. Just hitting the highest level of the tax-MLE does not

the other ways a team gets hard-capped is if they use the BAE or accept a player in a S&T
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Re: Offseason 

Post#211 » by Case2012 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 10:24 pm

I am extremely confused as to how we have so little cap space when the Lakers, warriors and nets seem to have unlimited amounts. Meanwhile we dumpster dive for mimimum deals.. Just trade Dame. I really think the goal is to move the team to Seattle anyways, so **** it.


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Re: Offseason 

Post#212 » by Norm2953 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 11:11 pm

I think Portland was one of the teams offering their MLE to Otto Porter but spurned these offers to sign a minimum deal with the GSW.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#213 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue Aug 3, 2021 11:27 pm

I have always really liked Snell so this works for me.

But we are still just treading to keep out heads above water and our butts in the playoffs. Short of big more, this team isnt going to see any Dame Time past the upcoming season. He is gone summer 2022.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#214 » by Wizenheimer » Tue Aug 3, 2021 11:48 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I have always really liked Snell so this works for me.

But we are still just treading to keep out heads above water and our butts in the playoffs. Short of big more, this team isnt going to see any Dame Time past the upcoming season. He is gone summer 2022.


may very well be the case

I swear, about the only way any of this makes any sense is if A) Olshey believes Dame is bluffing or B) Olshey secretly wants to trade Dame and is trying to force that demand
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Re: Offseason 

Post#215 » by Case2012 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 11:57 pm

I think Neil is doing this to spite the city. Jody and the Vulcans condone it because they want to move the team to Seattle. It's pretty obvious. They might as well, there's nothing to like about the franchise anymore except Dame, who will be gone soon anyways.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#216 » by whatchaknow » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:19 am

TBFan4Life wrote:This better be a precursor to a cj trade or this will be one of the most underwhelming off-season in recent memory!!


Oh come on don’t tell me you’ve forgotten the Mario hezonja and Kent bazemore off season. Or the nik stauskas and Seth curry off season fresh off a 1st round sweep. This is literally Neil Olshey. This is what he does, absolutely underwhelms even when the expectations are low. Of course there are things preventing us from being extremely aggressive and active (much caused by him as well)but the stuff he adds to the team are basically rinse and repeat of prior off seasons.

We talk about it with players after so many seasons, “you are what you are”. This guy is what he is, he knows no other way to do it. It’s embarrassing the amount of job security he has. Obviously there’s still lots of time in the offseason so I’m not gonna go on a complete rant about how much he sucks at his job, but he sucks at his job :lol: . At this point I don’t think there’s a way to appease dame and keep him happy, at least it’s hard for me to see it. At the very least can we get some big man depth? I don’t wanna see covington having to defend centers ever again, it’s not fair to him or the fans
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Re: Offseason 

Post#217 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:52 am

Case2012 wrote:I think Neil is doing this to spite the city. Jody and the Vulcans condone it because they want to move the team to Seattle. It's pretty obvious. They might as well, there's nothing to like about the franchise anymore except Dame, who will be gone soon anyways.


See, I just dont agree with this. If there were trade we missed out on, guys better than CJ or as good but better fits, then I would be dissapointed.

But really who did everyone expect us to sign in FA? What guys are looking to come to a middling playoff team, with no ring chances, in a small market, with a low tier #1 at best heading the squad? Who is taking the LAL discount to come play here? NO or not, that just doesnt happen for Portland.

We did well in FA given our limitations. I dont see much of a difference bt Reggie Bullock who got 10M AV and Tony Snell who we got for the VM. I dont see many better backup C's in the league, not on a rookie deal or making 8M+, than Zeller. I dont see many players of Powells caliber getting what can only be seen as a tremendous deal (A deal likely never to take up more than 15-16% of our cap space). NO did very in Free Agency. I truly dont know what everyone expected. I actually want to hear the players we should have signed instead?

But this isnt to say that the limitation we are working with are anything less than NOs fault. Nor to say that he should be allowed to run it back with the same squad. But we need to be realistic. We are not getting Pascal or Simmons for CJ, we are not getting starting caliber guys to take MLE level paycuts, we are not getting difference makers in FA. None of this was ever going to happen. Its a fantasy world to think otherwise. Ya, Batum is going to leave LAC, and all the other ring suitors, to come to Portland. Sure. We just are so overly optimistic because as fans we see this as the obvious team all these guys want to join. Well it isnt. Its just not. And given the city and the climate, it wont ever be.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#218 » by Matt800 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 12:55 am

Wizenheimer wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I have always really liked Snell so this works for me.

But we are still just treading to keep out heads above water and our butts in the playoffs. Short of big more, this team isnt going to see any Dame Time past the upcoming season. He is gone summer 2022.


may very well be the case

I swear, about the only way any of this makes any sense is if A) Olshey believes Dame is bluffing or B) Olshey secretly wants to trade Dame and is trying to force that demand


Could be, but also looking at the available free agents, it's hard to see too many better options that would be at all realistic for the blazers to have signed. Most either wanted/got more money, or wanted to stay with their team, or wanted to go to a team like the lakers. I think it's been generally consistent that the opportunities for the blazers to get better are internal development, reclamation projects, draft, and trades. They have some guys they could trade + draft picks, so if Olshey doesn't find a rotational upgrade in that fashion it doesn't look good.
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Re: Offseason 

Post#219 » by PDXKnight » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:08 am

whatchaknow wrote:
TBFan4Life wrote:This better be a precursor to a cj trade or this will be one of the most underwhelming off-season in recent memory!!


Oh come on don’t tell me you’ve forgotten the Mario hezonja and Kent bazemore off season. Or the nik stauskas and Seth curry off season fresh off a 1st round sweep. This is literally Neil Olshey. This is what he does, absolutely underwhelms even when the expectations are low. Of course there are things preventing us from being extremely aggressive and active (much caused by him as well)but the stuff he adds to the team are basically rinse and repeat of prior off seasons.

We talk about it with players after so many seasons, “you are what you are”. This guy is what he is, he knows no other way to do it. It’s embarrassing the amount of job security he has. Obviously there’s still lots of time in the offseason so I’m not gonna go on a complete rant about how much he sucks at his job, but he sucks at his job :lol: . At this point I don’t think there’s a way to appease dame and keep him happy, at least it’s hard for me to see it. At the very least can we get some big man depth? I don’t wanna see covington having to defend centers ever again, it’s not fair to him or the fans


I cannot see the nba approving a move to seattle when the arena & market (only non mls pro team) is pretty solid

It’s pretty apparent to me seattle would get an expansion team more than likelu
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Re: Offseason 

Post#220 » by whatchaknow » Wed Aug 4, 2021 1:13 am

Honest question do you think Olshey actually is planning on Kenneth faried and/or Michael Beasley making this team?

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