2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Rapsfan07]

i think theres a good opportunity to make a trade with the blazers. They are desperate to add talent to prevent Dame from leaving and we can probably get a good return of unprotected picks and Nassir Little/Antfernee Simons from them for Siakam

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I'd much rather the Warriors package, if that ever was actually on the table.

[Apz]

Dragic to Dallas makes a lot of sense;
However, it seems the media has attached the consideration that because Powell is Canadian he somehow becomes an asset to us, but he has 2/23 left on his deal and isn't terrible healthy or all that great when he is.

Lifting his salary is a favor to the Mavs, If Powell is coming along with the Mavs 2025 FRP, sure
But if the Raps are liquidating an asset like Dragic it shouldn't be for junk like Powell.

He is only guaranteed 6M on 2022/23, but there should definitely be an asset attached to him, due to his lack of production last year.

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There us, Precious is that asset. Maybe somethibg like a 2028 2nd can be negotiated but there really is zero chance kleber get moved. He is mavs only 4. Its just not happening that mavs take on more money, gives asset while gettibg an more injuryprone player, just to help heat that stole lowry get the deal thru.

Its miami that should pay tho, its their mess imo. I wonder what will happen if it doesnt get solved tho? All capspace for teams will be gone and lowry will be FA

[Steven1562]

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We need to tank for this kid. Next great scorer in the draft. Hardy/Barnes will lead us to the next chip.

[Mattatron]

Yet the Mavericks are being hardheaded, as is their typical wont. On the Lowe Post today Tim MacMahon said, ”[the Mavericks] feel like there will be some natural growth in that roster.” At the moment the Mavericks very clearly don’t want to pay the $19 million salary for Dragic and MacMahon said so.

Tim Cato of The Athletic also notes that the Mavericks could trade for Dragic by sending Dwight Powell, Willie Cauley-Stein, or a prospect like Josh Green or Tyrell Terry, but they don’t want to do that. Cato specifically cites that “Dallas wouldn’t want to do that because Powell is beloved around the organization” and that losing two centers would be hard.

This reads as if the Mavericks are being either cheap or difficult and it’s very confusing as to why. Powell’s been a great Maverick and human being for a long time, but he’s not part of the future core. Being unwilling to part with Terry or Green makes some sense but it’s still a bit frustrating.

[LoveMyRaps]

I could see this team pursuing KAT as well.

[Godaddycurse]

Dallas trades: Porzingis, Green
Dallas receives: Harris

Philly trade: Harris
Philly receives: Dragic, Boucher

Toronto trades: Dragic, Boucher
Toronto receives: Porzingis, Green

Why for Dallas: get a much more durable/reliable forward
Why for Philly: clear cap for a max contract next offseason aka beal. Dragic provides roster balance and boucher is a good stopgap PF. Also get about a 10M TPE
Why for Toronto: Gamble on KP as solution to C and get another young prospect

[Blood Orange]

Frank Ntlikina??

Can we fix him?

Nah, he broke fam.

[will]

Frank Ntlikina??

Can we fix him?

Nah, he broke fam.

Frankie Smokes is the French Australian guy who was supposed to be amazing when the Jazz drafted him.

Forgot his name, he is that memorable.

[Blood Orange]

Frank Ntlikina??

Can we fix him?

Nah, he broke fam.

Frankie Smokes is the French Australian guy who was supposed to be amazing when the Jazz drafted him.

Forgot his name, he is that memorable.

Haha, he's been in the league 4 years and has only managed to play a full season once, his first year. His health seems to be a major concern in picking him up though he's still relatively young 24 and talented but perhaps he was drafted to the wrong situation (NYK).

[will]

Nah, he broke fam.

Frankie Smokes is the French Australian guy who was supposed to be amazing when the Jazz drafted him.

Forgot his name, he is that memorable.

Haha, he's been in the league 4 years and has only managed to play a full season once, his first year. His health seems to be a major concern in picking him up though he's still relatively young 24 and talented but perhaps he was drafted to the wrong situation (NYK).

Ah Dante Exum is the guy.

Frankie may be worth a look, however he many want to go to a team where he may have more of an opportunity for playing time.

[Blood Orange]

Frankie Smokes is the French Australian guy who was supposed to be amazing when the Jazz drafted him.

Forgot his name, he is that memorable.

Haha, he's been in the league 4 years and has only managed to play a full season once, his first year. His health seems to be a major concern in picking him up though he's still relatively young 24 and talented but perhaps he was drafted to the wrong situation (NYK).

Ah Dante Exum is the guy.

Frankie may be worth a look, however he many want to go to a team where he may have more of an opportunity for playing time.

True. I was a big fan of Dennis Smith Jr. prior to being drafted in the NBA but he hasn't been able to secure a home in the league. I hope we take a gamble with him. I think he'd be worth a look.

[Rapsfan07]

How much to we have to add to Vanvleet in a package to add Levert and Turner? Boucher for sure but I still feel like it needs something else going to Indiana.

Also the issue with moving FVV is finding a starting PG is hard. The only thing I can think of is using Dragic's deal in a potential S&T for Dinwiddie, which would allow us to move FVV but I'm not sure about Dinwiddies health and using Dragic in a S&T means we have less salary to add to a potential deal.

Would love to add Markkanen for the full MLE. Our bench would be pretty nice with Flynn, Trent, Barnes, Markkanen and a cheap big. Maybe Birch? But I think he can do better than the BAE and that's all we'll have to offer.

Could just have Markkanen play C and let Precious play PF. Flynn/Trent/Barnes/Precious/Markkanen

[DangerZone13]

I have a weird feeling we may end up with Oladipo on a 1 year prove me contract. Mid level. Big upside if healthy. Him and Masai are tight. I wouldn't be mad at it.

Guard rotation of FVV, Oladipo, Flynn and Trent Jr. Is pretty solid especially if Oladipo comes back hard.

I think you're on to something there. With Pascal reported to be out to start the year, and Oladipo rehabbing, this lets the young guns get some reps early, then our "trade deadline acquisitions" Siakam and Oladipo come in to elevate things. Dipo on the MLE, Birch on the LLE . I don't hate it.

[Rodrickle]

Dragic to Dallas makes a lot of sense;
However, it seems the media has attached the consideration that because Powell is Canadian he somehow becomes an asset to us, but he has 2/23 left on his deal and isn't terrible healthy or all that great when he is.

Lifting his salary is a favor to the Mavs, If Powell is coming along with the Mavs 2025 FRP, sure
But if the Raps are liquidating an asset like Dragic it shouldn't be for junk like Powell.

He is only guaranteed 6M on 2022/23, but there should definitely be an asset attached to him, due to his lack of production last year.

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There us, Precious is that asset. Maybe somethibg like a 2028 2nd can be negotiated but there really is zero chance kleber get moved. He is mavs only 4. Its just not happening that mavs take on more money, gives asset while gettibg an more injuryprone player, just to help heat that stole lowry get the deal thru.

Its miami that should pay tho, its their mess imo. I wonder what will happen if it doesnt get solved tho? All capspace for teams will be gone and lowry will be FA

There may be another asset (KZ or a pick) if we can't unload Dragic right away. I'm saying that of we take Powell, based on his contract and lack of production last year, the mavs should attach an asset, like Green or a pick.

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[C-R-E-A-M-]

Miami: Lowry

Dallas: Dragic

Toronto: Precious Achuiwa, Josh Green, Tyrell Terry, Dwight Powell

[Sal 21]

If we don't think we can win now and contend.

Given the Nets and Bucks, and given how we don't have a top center this year, like last, why not go the quick rebuild route and contend in 2-3 years? If so, the Siakam to Golden State trade can be revisited, and spruced up.

Siakam + Boucher for Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody, and Oubre sign and trade.

Notes: Don't want Oubre, but it probably makes it easier for GS if they can keep Wiggins (money aside).
Notes: We can add young guys, eg. Johnson, Banton, if GS wants someone to develop. Or, we could include Achiuwa, if needed, if Masai considers Kuminga and Moody superior prospects. With so many young guys Achiuwa wouldn't get much chance to play anyway.

Why for the Warriors?
The frontcourt catches up to the backcourt, they have one of the best starting lineups in the league. Boucher is, as always, a perfect 6th man. Solid bench. Contender.

Green / Boucher
Siakam / Boucher / Achiuwa (?)
Wiggins / Porter
Klay / returning guys
Steph / Mannion


Why for the Raptors?
We rebuild on the fly with high-upside 20-year olds, while keeping the young vet core of OG and Trent, with Fred VV the steady hand who holds the ship together and shows the kids how to play. Birch is a hard-working vet who can help Wiseman's development. The key to the whole trade is, of course, Wiseman. If you don't think he's going to turn out to be much, then you'd nix the trade. The 20-year old core of Wiseman, Barnes, Kuminga and Moody could be special in 2-3 years though.

Wiseman / Birch / Powell
Anunoby / Barnes / (Achiuwa?)
Oubre / Kuminga / (Green?)
Trent / Moody / (Johnson?)
Van Vleet / Flynn / (Banton?)

We may also have Johnson, Banton, Achiuwa, possibly Green from Dallas in the Dragic trade (which gets us Powell, I assume).
Oubre can start because of his experience, but we can look to trade him at the deadline.
At some point Barnes will get some starts, I imagine.
There are a ton of young guys, but if needed we can consolidate for the better players in trades (e.g. Green or Achiuwa or Johnson/Banton to GS for Kuminga and Moody).

[Morris_Shatford]

Frank Ntlikina??

Can we fix him?

It depends on the role you see him in;

With the caveat that he just turned 23 and you never know what he may do under a different coaching methodology and system;
The issues are that he never really rounded out that passing game and given his size his defense isn't where it should be after four seasons of NBA coaching and practices. The biggest issue is that given the limited minutes he played he seemed to chalk up a lot of bad fouls.

The one thing that caught my eye is that he shot well from 3 this last season, but on greatly reduced minutes and attempts.
I would happily give him a look with the 905s but I think he needs a lot of work before he gets anywhere near being rotational.

[douggood]

can someone get bamba off the magic

looks like they have an extension for wendel carter agreed to
signed robin lopez
signed moe wagner

[Dyehardrapsfan]

Is Damarcus Cousins a free agent?

If so let’s get him on a one year deal?

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Is Damarcus Cousins a free agent?

If so let’s get him on a one year deal?

Great locker room influence for the young players.