Possible reasons for the Lowry S&T hold up (Powell, WCS from DAL for Dragic)

[earth007]

Some of you guys really need to chill and relax. Some of us have been through Babcock, Grundwald and BC eras. Trust me those were not fun. We had Milt freaking Palachio running the point one year, and the dude could not make a layup to save his life. And how about Araoujo getting blocked by the rim or Smitch celebrating like he was a genius, after TJ made a game wining basket on an unimaginative iso play?
Current FO won us a freaking championship. And we were pretty good last two seasons as well. I think they want to do a proper rebuild now and trying to collect some assets. I think next year, they will give heavy minutes to Barnes, Precious and Co and develop them. The future is not that bleak for the Raptors. OG could very well take the next step and become the second coming of Kwahi. Barnes and Precious look like very good kids with a lot of potential. Siakam is not a bad 1B option and may actually get his mojo back this year. I hope we won't trade him while his value is at an all time low.
We are not missing out a lot with this free agency crop. It is a crap shoot to say the least. Just relax and wait. We have some competent people running the organization now. Don't need to lose sleep over this Lowry deal. I for one am glad that they are doing it right by Lowry. Those kind of things go a long way. Especially with the agents, who have a lot of say in the league.

[The Duke]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

[S.W.A.N]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic


It isn’t rocket science
'

[Apz]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

As mavs fan i agree. Its not mavs getting lowry. If raptors want more they should have demanded it from heat. Mavs lose nothing if the lowry deal dies or raptors get stuck with dragic

[The Duke]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic

It isn’t rocket science
'

Wanting someone for cheap and paying a high price is two different things. Oh and throw in the "maybe Raps are forced to buy him out" option ... or "maybe the price will come down mid season" option.

The best option for Dallas is to stand firm on offering a low package now. And it should be the same package offered at the deadline.

[Apz]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic


It isn’t rocket science
'

Actually, neither mavs or luka have said that. Draguc said he prefer dallas, probably becaude its not that far to miami. Itd not like luka and dragic got a long history. Thry played like 5 games together 4 years ago. Powell probably played more games with some raptors players.

It could happen, but if raptirs want more then powell/burke, heat will have to pay that and isnt mavs problem

[dkb9696]

Dallas is under no obligation to give us good prospects for Dragic. Honestly, I don't see why they should.

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic


It isn’t rocket science
'

Actually, neither mavs or luka have said that. Draguc said he prefer dallas, probably becaude its not that far to miami. Itd not like luka and dragic got a long history. Thry played like 5 games together 4 years ago. Powell probably played more games with some raptors players.

It could happen, but if raptirs want more then powell/burke, heat will have to pay that and isnt mavs problem

There would be no reason for the Raptors to take on an extra year of 11M on Powells contract unless they receive an asset. I would rather just keep Dragic and get the improved Heat offer and then trade him at the deadline.

[The Duke]

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic


It isn’t rocket science
'

Actually, neither mavs or luka have said that. Draguc said he prefer dallas, probably becaude its not that far to miami. Itd not like luka and dragic got a long history. Thry played like 5 games together 4 years ago. Powell probably played more games with some raptors players.

It could happen, but if raptirs want more then powell/burke, heat will have to pay that and isnt mavs problem

I would rather just keep Dragic and get the improved Heat offer and then trade him at the deadline.

Good luck to us on this "improved Heat offer" especially IF Toronto front office already agreed to Dragic + Precious (only) ... and accepted the risk if no 3rd team was found. Don't blame Lowry. Don't blame Heat. Don't blame Mavs.

[Apz]

Dallas actually wants Dragic
Luka wants Dragic


It isn’t rocket science
'

Actually, neither mavs or luka have said that. Draguc said he prefer dallas, probably becaude its not that far to miami. Itd not like luka and dragic got a long history. Thry played like 5 games together 4 years ago. Powell probably played more games with some raptors players.

It could happen, but if raptirs want more then powell/burke, heat will have to pay that and isnt mavs problem

There would be no reason for the Raptors to take on an extra year of 11M on Powells contract unless they receive an asset. I would rather just keep Dragic and get the improved Heat offer and then trade him at the deadline.

Thats fine for us. However, seems the heat boards not heard a word about any improved offer so we dont know if thats true at all.

[dkb9696]

Actually, neither mavs or luka have said that. Draguc said he prefer dallas, probably becaude its not that far to miami. Itd not like luka and dragic got a long history. Thry played like 5 games together 4 years ago. Powell probably played more games with some raptors players.

It could happen, but if raptirs want more then powell/burke, heat will have to pay that and isnt mavs problem

There would be no reason for the Raptors to take on an extra year of 11M on Powells contract unless they receive an asset. I would rather just keep Dragic and get the improved Heat offer and then trade him at the deadline.

Thats fine for us. However, seems the heat boards not heard a word about any improved offer so we dont know if thats true at all.

I believe both Precious Achiuwa and KZ Okpala are both being held out of summer league. The Raptors receive both if they are unable to trade Dragic. The Raptors have all of the leverage here and are just taking their time to get the best deal possible.

[OakleyDokely]

Dragic would be one of the best players still available if he were a FA right now. And he's only a 1 year obligation. Raps should get an asset or two for him.

If teams don't value him now, hold him into the season. When injuries happen or teams get off to disappointing starts, they will come calling.

[Apz]

Dragic would be one of the best players still available if he were a FA right now. And he's only a 1 year obligation. Raps should get an asset or two for him.

If teams don't value him now, hold him into the season. When injuries happen or teams get off to disappointing starts, they will come calling.

If he was FA, yes. For 20m and giving up assets, thats another thing. Same could be said about Kemba anf others, if FA they would be wanted. But for less then half of their current contracts

[OakleyDokely]

Dragic would be one of the best players still available if he were a FA right now. And he's only a 1 year obligation. Raps should get an asset or two for him.

If teams don't value him now, hold him into the season. When injuries happen or teams get off to disappointing starts, they will come calling.

If he was FA, yes. For 20m and giving up assets, thats another thing. Same could be said about Kemba anf others, if FA they would be wanted. But for less then half of their current contracts

We will see.

There are still teams with money to spend, looking to improve their roster.

The Raps aren't forced to move him. They can hold him. He's still a good player.

[dkb9696]

Dragic would be one of the best players still available if he were a FA right now. And he's only a 1 year obligation. Raps should get an asset or two for him.

If teams don't value him now, hold him into the season. When injuries happen or teams get off to disappointing starts, they will come calling.

If he was FA, yes. For 20m and giving up assets, thats another thing. Same could be said about Kemba anf others, if FA they would be wanted. But for less then half of their current contracts

It is laughable that the Mavericks fans think the Raptors would trade them Dragic for Powell/Burke straight up. Why would the Raptors trade the far better player and take on an extra year of salary in Powell/Burke without receiving prospects or picks back?

[rapstarter]

Honestly I think it would be better if we simply didn't deal with the Heat against Lowry's wishes,

[Preliudas]

I think it's pretty clear that Dallas wants to make Luka happy and we all know who Luka wants to see on Mavs roster (and you don't need to hear this directly from him).
If the deal not going to happen, Masai/Bobby can either keep Dragic or maybe unload him to a different team.

[Apz]

Feels like its pretty dry on the capspace front, do it pretty much would need to be a trade. Cant say for who tho. E. Gordon? Same age and same money tho so not sure why either would do that. There is always something that we cant see tho, maybe okc still got something they want to get rid off for an expiring

[Apz]

Dragic would be one of the best players still available if he were a FA right now. And he's only a 1 year obligation. Raps should get an asset or two for him.

If teams don't value him now, hold him into the season. When injuries happen or teams get off to disappointing starts, they will come calling.

If he was FA, yes. For 20m and giving up assets, thats another thing. Same could be said about Kemba anf others, if FA they would be wanted. But for less then half of their current contracts

It is laughable that the Mavericks fans think the Raptors would trade them Dragic for Powell/Burke straight up. Why would the Raptors trade the far better player and take on an extra year of salary in Powell without receiving prospects or picks back?

An extra year but pretty much the same money, for a less injuryprone player that id like 5 years younger.

Flip it. Why would mavs trade for a more injury prone, older player to just help heat get lowry?

I still wonder what happens if raptors just go **** it, and doubles back on the heat deal so it doesnt happen. I really think it would have been far better for them

[dkb9696]

If he was FA, yes. For 20m and giving up assets, thats another thing. Same could be said about Kemba anf others, if FA they would be wanted. But for less then half of their current contracts

It is laughable that the Mavericks fans think the Raptors would trade them Dragic for Powell/Burke straight up. Why would the Raptors trade the far better player and take on an extra year of salary in Powell without receiving prospects or picks back?

An extra year but pretty much the same money, for a less injuryprone player that id like 5 years younger.

Flip it. Why would mavs trade for a more injury prone, older player to just help heat get lowry?

I still wonder what happens if raptors just go **** it, and doubles back on the heat deal so it doesnt happen. I really think it would have been far better for them

The Raptors and Heat do not need the Mavericks at all to complete the trade. The Mavericks clearly want Dragic, so the Raptors are seeing if it is worth their while and they can get an asset or two from them. I am telling you that if Dragic ends up in a Mavericks uniform you are not going to be happy if you are expecting them not to being giving up picks or prospects.

[WuTang_CMB]

Dragic deal wont happen until the weekend.