MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

[Wiltside]

Need to wait and see how the rest of the bench fills out.

If it were me, I’d be hoping to bring back Dipo on a cheap “prove it” deal, sign Yurt to a 3yr with team option on the 3rd year, sign Wingod to sure up the wing.

Lowry / Oladipo / Vincent
Robinson / Herro / Strus
Butler / Winslow
Morris / Tucker
Adebayo / Dedmon / Yurtseven

[dean456]

One thing is for sure - Spo better make this team a top 3 defensive team next year.

Because I can see us being a bottom 3 offense.

If only we were back in 1998 - Would've been a great way to win big.

It's hard to say. Last season we averaged 107ppg as a team and were ranked 25th and 22nd in efficiency.

The year before we averaged 111.5ppg for 16th and 7th in offensive efficiency.

I think a lot of our struggles came from inconsistencies in availability We never really had a good stretch of games where we were all healthy at the same time. I think we can get somewhere in between those two numbers.

I'm not sure that will really even matter though. I mean we were 7th in opposing team scoring at 106ppg last season with Nunn and Ariza playing PG and PF replace those guys with Lowry and Tucker/Morris then I think we look even better defensively. If we can score around 108-109ppg and hold teams around 104ppg we should win more games than we won last season.

Really makes me wish we could have added a healthy Oladipo to this squad though, would be a nasty combo of players.

[3ballbomber]

Kinda intersting comparing Lakers Offseason with ours :


Big move : Lowry Vs WestBrook

following moves Heat : We paid Tucker 7.5 and Morris got vet Min, lost Nunn for nothing, Kept Duncan.

following moves Lakers : They paid Ariza the Min, Bazmore the min, Howard the min, Monk the min, Melo the min, Nunn got 5Mil. Lost Caruso, Kept THT.


Looks like they went all offense, got real shooters/scorers and got a lot of guys very cheap.

We went all defense, added just 3 guys - overpaid 2 of them (by a lot IMO).

Yeah Lakers defense is very suspect. Not only do they have no good defenders outside AD and Lebron they also have a very old squad. They better hope AD and Lebron stay healthy because they going to have to carry the load.

I like that they picked up both empty stats Westy & dense-cap Melo - both career nba losers. They ain't winning jack sh*t w/ those 2. They'll also realise Nunn will disappoint when it counts.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

We have to retain Dipo, nothing to lose and everything to gain by letting him rehab and then adding a backup G around midseason if his return timeline gets delayed. If Dipo can be back on the floor and in game shape by the Allstar break in February, you could start integrating him into the lineup throughout late February and March to have our playoff rotation ready to go in April

If Dipo is part of that rotation... that's an enormous boost

[BenoUdrihFTL]

And honestly, I think load management is gonna be a lowkey reality of our regular season. So bringing a G/F like Dipo back into the mix during the season would be a good excuse to give Lowry and Butler some nights off

[RexBoyWonder]

We have to retain Dipo, nothing to lose and everything to gain by letting him rehab and then adding a backup G around midseason if his return timeline gets delayed. If Dipo can be back on the floor and in game shape by the Allstar break in February, you could start integrating him into the lineup throughout late February and March to have our playoff rotation ready to go in April

If Dipo is part of that rotation... that's an enormous boost

If we can keep Dipo I would get over the Nunn dumping.

Dipo if healthy can give us what Nunn would've + better defense.

[dean456]

Kinda intersting comparing Lakers Offseason with ours :


Big move : Lowry Vs WestBrook

following moves Heat : We paid Tucker 7.5 and Morris got vet Min, lost Nunn for nothing, Kept Duncan.

following moves Lakers : They paid Ariza the Min, Bazmore the min, Howard the min, Monk the min, Melo the min, Nunn got 5Mil. Lost Caruso, Kept THT.


Looks like they went all offense, got real shooters/scorers and got a lot of guys very cheap.

We went all defense, added just 3 guys - overpaid 2 of them (by a lot IMO).

Yeah Lakers defense is very suspect. Not only do they have no good defenders outside AD and Lebron they also have a very old squad. They better hope AD and Lebron stay healthy because they going to have to carry the load.

Are they really older then us?

They're building exactly opposite from us - going all in on shooting and offense trusting that in playoffs everyone gives 110% energy and defense will be respectful enough.

We're trying to stop teams from scoring, believing we could generate enough offense despite having multiple non shooters/limited offense players. Every bucket could be a grind unless Herro and Lowry have great scoring seasons.

I mean don't get me wrong we are a old team too. But I wouldn't say that we really got much older. We got rid of Iggy turning 38yo in Jan, Ariza just turned 36yo and Dragic turning 36yo next May and replaced them with more able bodied dudes in Lowry 35yo and Tucker 36yo and Morris who's turning 32yo. The only young guys we lost were Nunn and Precious and Precious wasn't really a contributing piece to the team.

With that being said I do hope we add some guys in the 27-30yo range with our last few roster spots that give us some more punch off the bench.

[twix2500]

So here we sit

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[HeatFanLifer]

We have to retain Dipo, nothing to lose and everything to gain by letting him rehab and then adding a backup G around midseason if his return timeline gets delayed. If Dipo can be back on the floor and in game shape by the Allstar break in February, you could start integrating him into the lineup throughout late February and March to have our playoff rotation ready to go in April

If Dipo is part of that rotation... that's an enormous boost

If we can keep Dipo I would get over the Nunn dumping.

Dipo if healthy can give us what Nunn would've + better defense.

C’mon Rex, you know he isn’t going to be healthy. Setting yourself up to be let down. Don’t do this to yourself.

[twix2500]

So here we sit

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At the All-Star break hope Oladipo is well enough to play and wait to see if Kevin Love is bought out

[zgope1]

Dipo just harpooned our season with his body not right.

Stupid to try the same thing again.

Without his athleticism he’s not much of a player so there’s no point

[HEATVols865]

Dipo just harpooned our season with his body not right.

Stupid to try the same thing again.

Without his athleticism he’s not much of a player so there’s no point

Unless you’re a doctor or a physical therapist, you saying Dipo is done is the same as Trump saying the elections were stolen…


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[twix2500]

What point guards are out there?

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[IceColdCubano]

On the Dipo, front. We will get first go at him when he is ready. Miami will be monitoring his progress I am sure he will be using our facility to recover and work out. At that point we will release whomever we need to to sign him if we feel he is worth it.
Yurtseven looked very promising, he is tailor made to play our system as a shooting center. Loved the fact it wasn't just corner threes, dude is hitting 4 feet outside the top of line and even hitting the mid range shot as well. Would make a great pairing with Bam if Spo is willing to play them. He still needs more playing time to sharpen some of the rough edges but he will get there.

[eddieheatfan]

Dipo just harpooned our season with his body not right.

Stupid to try the same thing again.

Without his athleticism he’s not much of a player so there’s no point

Unless you’re a doctor or a physical therapist, you saying Dipo is done is the same as Trump saying the elections were stolen…


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yes the elections were indeed stolen

[AirP.]

So basically there are 2 differences between Miami operating over the cap vs having cap space for this year ended up being...

1- (PJ Tucker) vs (Dragic) - Dragic's option declined, released his cap hold to sign Lowry, signed Dragic with MLE for 2 years.
2- (Kept Precious + any other asset they send for Lowry) vs (Oladpo's Bird rights).

So if Oladipo and Miami have an understanding to get paid after he's healthy and when Miami isn't hard capped, Miami has it's "scorer" for this team whenever he's back. They can get away with a "prove it" contract when he comes back on a 1+1 minimum and if he's near back by next offseason Miami can pay and retain him.

So it's possible Miami goes into the playoffs like...
Starters - Lowry, Butler, Robinson, Tucker, Bam
Bench - Oladipo, Herro, Morris, Dedmon, Stus

Next year
Starters - Lowry, Oladipo, Butler, Tucker, Bam
Bench - Robinson, Herro, Morris, Dedmon, Strus

A Butler window key is Oladipo getting healthy by the 2nd half of next season or by the season after, he's the "scorer" that is missing and should be able to take the scoring load allowing Lowry, Butler and even Bam to not work as much on offense. Herro's development as a scorer is also key here too.

[zgope1]

Dipo just harpooned our season with his body not right.

Stupid to try the same thing again.

Without his athleticism he’s not much of a player so there’s no point

Unless you’re a doctor or a physical therapist, you saying Dipo is done is the same as Trump saying the elections were stolen…


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I’m English speaking and heard him say it’s been two years and his quad (the one he would go on to injure again) was still weak as p&3s. Best case sounds like he’ll get back to mildly athletic within 6 months. He doesn’t have the skills to make up for it

[AirP.]

Dipo just harpooned our season with his body not right.

Stupid to try the same thing again.

Without his athleticism he’s not much of a player so there’s no point

Unless you’re a doctor or a physical therapist, you saying Dipo is done is the same as Trump saying the elections were stolen…


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I’m English speaking and heard him say it’s been two years and his quad (the one he would go on to injure again) was still weak as p&3s. Best case sounds like he’ll get back to mildly athletic within 6 months. He doesn’t have the skills to make up for it

I'm looking more of 2022-2023 season for Oladipo to be back. It'll be a nice bonus if he can come back this year in the 2nd half of the year in a bench role while he's still trying to get back to his old self.

Retaining Oladipo is about the only way to get another substantial talent during the Lowry/Butler/Tucker window.

[dean456]

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I swear to god if the Mavs are the third team here and screw us again... From this point on they should be blacklisted from dealing with Miami for life.

Once Luka's a free agent we need to steal him from Dallas.

[Vertical Limit]

I need to know… are we really going to let omer get talked to by other teams ? Give the man a contract…