Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[Jeffrey]

Basically, we just hope his knees hold up for two years at around 28 mpg and he can play 70 games instead of 82

This is all on Thibs right? That's always been his criticism that he relies heavily on a tight rotation in the playoffs. He needs to manage minutes a lot better than what he has shown last playoffs and throughout his career.

[seren]

He has torn and missing cartilege in his left knee.

"Kemba Walker's injured knee and the stem cell program he's on to recover from cartilage damage next week after New Year's Day. "

He started getting on Stem Cell Therapy Winter 2020. Managed to get back for the bubble but it flared up again.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ydzur

"Boston Sports Journal’s Dr. Jessica Flynn hinted that Walker is developing arthritis in his left knee following three surgeries and various career steroidal injections. Walker received an injection to address cartilage loss in February. She expected Walker to continue to manage his knee for the rest of his career. Listening to Stevens talk it certainly sounds like the knee is an issue that is going to require maintenance.

“He’s (Walker) working exceptionally hard. The key to this whole thing with him is just strengthening the knee,” Stevens told Ryan and Goodman. “Just continuing to take this opportunity when we’re not playing, when we’re not practicing to really focus on that."

https://www.clnsmedia.com/kemba-walkers-status-uncertain-for-celtics-opening-night/

He was cooked after last Summer and as your recall couldn't get ready for the start of the year.

Again, I don't hate Kemba Walker and it's a low risk move. I'm saying, we aren't one of the 5 best teams in the East, let's play and develop some of these young guards and actually get a Knick draft pick to a second contract.

So if he gets hurt (which is what you think is going to happen), then IQ will get more minutes. What's the issue?

That we could just not sign cooked vets and show confidence in our promising young PG? Acknowledge that we aren't a contending team and join the real world. I mean isn't that pretty obvious.

The good thing is we signed zero cooked vets this off-season. All the vets we signed were raw ones.

[K_ick_God]

OMG Kanter back to Boston.

[nedleeds]

Thanks for the reply, I didn't see that procedure when I was researching his injury report. I also haven't really been watching him since he started playing for the Celtics so i don't know about any steep decline in his play. I wonder how much cartilage was damaged/torn and what therapeutic intervention(s) he can seek out to manage it for the remainder of his career.

He's tried everything. Again this is a high character, competitor, just like Brandon Roy was. But the progression to bone on bone is inevitable in impact court sports. It's just brutal. Kemba being really herky jerky, and not really playing a finesse game doesn't help either he is a high torque cat quick guard. Similar to Rose actually, though Rose's two footed leaper status makes them different.

There are a bunch of conference finals competitive teams that can desperately use a great shooting functional point guard for 30 minutes. The 76ers, the Celtics, Lakers (pre trade), Mavericks all are better than us and none of them wanted free Kemba? He's likely cooked.

The situation with his knee is more like Kobe's knee

[seren]

Kemba end up playing zero minutes for the next two years is still an improvement over what we had last year.

[ScienceOfLosing]

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Amazing find

Indeed. Maybe Knicks got wind of possible buyout, did a little research, saw the wings available, and went for Fournier with strong indication that the buyout would happen. Maybe backchannel talks with OKC, and even the pick swap of 32 for 34 and 36 kind of a handshake in the process.

Right when that 32 for 34 and 36 happened, I wondered about a handshake. or some kind of payback.
Same thing with us giving Charlotte #19. Maybe that sugar comes later...

[nedleeds]

Several people above are just assmad and pitching a fit because frank is gone, very toxic people, Kemba on one leg would give us a lot more.

A lot more what? Frank didn't play. Thibs played Payton.

[moocow007]

Basically, we just hope his knees hold up for two years at around 28 mpg and he can play 70 games instead of 82

This is all on Thibs right? That's always been his criticism that he relies heavily on a tight rotation in the playoffs. He needs to manage minutes a lot better than what he has shown last playoffs and throughout his career.

The problem is that if you give him very little talent but heck a whole lot of role players, there really isn't much choice. He had to play Randle and Barrett heavily if the goal was to make the playoffs cause outside of those two the Knicks had next to no talent. It's why many of us have been pushing heavy for talent. All the role players in the world cannot substitute for talent in today's NBA. Those that are pushing for managing minutes of guys like Randle and RJ should be in the forefront of insisting the Knicks number one objective should be to add high end talent and not to resign their role players.

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[nedleeds]

Kemba end up playing zero minutes for the next two years is still an improvement over what we had last year.

Lol. Something we can all agree one. A **** parking cone in Paytons minutes is an improvement.

[3toheadmelo]

Was reading the GB and they were mostly praising us. I am shocked lol

[moocow007]

Kemba end up playing zero minutes for the next two years is still an improvement over what we had last year.

Lol. Something we can all agree one. A **** parking cone in Paytons minutes is an improvement.

Wingo in super short shorts and a big bottle of Viagra would be an upgrade over Payton.

[KnixtapeH20]

Ancient vets? Checks notes. DRose is 32, Walker is 30, Fournier is 28, Burks is 30

people wanted us to sign the decrepit cp3 and lowry to 3 and 4 year deals. these guys are babies compared to them

Babies have a lot of cartilage though.

Lmfaooo maybe Kemba and Rose can just eat some placenta and they'll be good as new

[shtolky]

Stop signing cooked ancient vets and Thibs bathtime buddies and play and develop young players to try to build a good roster around players RJs age.

Not focus on playing players 45 minutes in February vs. the Bulls to eek out 6 more regular season wins only to get anally violated in the playoffs against better teams who rested their players and played young guys.

Use draft picks on players instead of trading them forward while mentally masturbating about trades for Dame.

How's that?

I mean you can't say they didn't try to develop Knox or Frank, and they're developing Mitch and RJ as starters.

Who knows, Thibs won't let them fail. He wants to beat the Tatum-less Celtics in December so bad his ass hurts. Knox and Frank don't look great but they were shooting 39-40% from 3 on the team the was routinely facing zone defense while the opposing coaches laughed. IQ, Obi got **** for minutes while Randle led the league in minutes and Thibs played the worst point guard in the league starter minutes. I get that what I think should happen won't happen with this fake win coach.

Payton played 18mpg in the second half. Definitely not starters minutes. Starting him was stupid, but he didn't play much at all. Randle led the league in minutes because he was a legit MVP caliber player last year. That's why Obi didn't play much (plus his effectiveness was all over the place). Randle is also just three years older than Obi. It's not like Thibs was playing a 32 year old ahead of Obi. Knox and Frank are not good basketball players, that much is clear by now. RJ was 20 and took a leap. Thibs started Mitch until he got hurt and he relied on IQ for big minutes in some games. I can see how some of the moves we've made over the past 2 years could be called into question, but this Kemba move I can't see any real argument against it. At the money, with his effectiveness in spite of his knee issues, it's an absolute no brainer. I mean we are going from Payton to Kemba as our starter. I don't care if Kemba has one good knee, it's an immeasurable upgrade. RJ is still going to get crazy minutes and IQ should get a decent amount of the backup minutes, and he's a wonderful insurance policy for the Rose/Kemba injury concerns.

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[shtolky]

Was reading the GB and they were mostly praising us. I am shocked lol

It's a rare move we've made that really has zero downside and a lot of upside. I was surprised a bit too though, those GB guys can be a bit hyperbolic at our expense.

[K_ick_God]

This reminds me of Kenny Anderson a little, different borough. But every year I'd wait to see if we could get Kenny Anderson.

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Yeah I like Lonzo but I really don't think he's good enough to invest in. Improved 3 point shot but it's still ugly. He lacks moves, not really a natural point. He's a name. I think you can def get more value than Ball on a big contract. That's not an impossible feat.

[DaGawd]

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Welp here it is. Bye RJ