Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[HEZI]

All that crying about the 19th pick

Deservedly so.
If we wanted to save 2 million we could have either shaved a little off the deals we just gave out or just cut Vildoza.

But I don't think it was about saving 2 million. I think it was about assets for a superstar. Not sure if that happens.
You don't do that from this last draft, just too strong.

It was about not paying two first round rookies salaries when they didn’t have to and already a high chance that they one first round rookie was going to struggle finding minutes in the rotation . We took the guys we wanted at the cheapest available slots where we felt they could still be had. Picked up future assets in the process. Nothing more nothing less

[moocow007]

Kemba for 35 minutes a night, Rose for 35 minutes a nights..no bueno..Kemba for 25 minutes and Rose for 23 minutes is spectacular..A+

Agreed. Rose definitely isn't any more than a 23-25 minute a night guy. And he's likely the one guy whos minutes need to be managed the most. Kemba? Not familiar with how bad his knees are but I would also imagine that he won't be playing more than about 30 minutes max a night (25-28 minutes probably is what it will be at least early on). I think the goal is to have at least either him or Rose out there as the "shot creating" guard at any point in the game to address the Knicks biggest need from last season. I don't think they'll be playing a lot together at least not during the regular season.

[F N 11]

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This was just a few month's ago.

He's hurt, not dead.

[bronxknicksfan1]

Yeah what about the first half? Minutes are minutes for young players totally irrelevant that he finally was embarrassed into reducing Paytons minutes.




Good lord some of you are drowning in the MSG Kool Aid. He wasn't even a league average efficiency player. He put up counting stats playing berserk minutes on a 7 or 8 seed roster in a normal year. Legit MVP?

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Lillard
Kawhi
LeGM
AD
Young
Tatum
Mitchell
Booker
Harden
Healthy KD
Healthy Kyrie

are all a wide margin better than Randle. MVP caliber is insane.

First half I believe Payton played 22mpg. Still not starters minutes as you claimed. You didn't counter one example I mentioned about Thibs keeping the young guys down. RJ, Mitch, Quickley, the young guys that mattered, all played significant minutes and played well. Knox and Frank are barely NBA players.

And yes, Randle was clearly an MVP CALIBER player last year. I never said he was better than any of those guys.

How the F is he MVP caliber if he isn't better than any of these dudes? MVP of the Knicks ... sure. Instead of using the MVP hyperbole just say he's a good player.

Just because he’s not better than those players doesn’t mean he didn’t have an MVP caliber season lol.

He finished 7th in MVP voting and 2nd Team ALL-NBA.

[BKlutch]

Dude what's the downside here?

It's not the downside. It's the posters shooting their loads like we got a desirable talent. There is downside in that it's another example of prioritizing the back page and the tickets on sale posters instead of prioritizing young (guard) player development. Kemba isn't a bad guy or a unskilled player. He has an incurable knee condition. I really wish him well. But if any team thought he could play 20 minutes at his prior level he wouldn't be free.

I'm curious, what's his incurable knee condition? Does he have a degenerative condition in his knee such as chronic arthritis? I tried to research his injury history and I couldn't find anything outside of a medial meniscus tear a few years ago which required a subsequent arthroscopic procedure to clean up debris a year afterward. Also late last season he had a bone bruise but in the other leg.

Maybe I missed something on the injury history but if it's just a meniscal tear he didn't recover from properly (i.e. came back too early when he should be rehabbing,) than this seems like something he can work through. There's plenty of players that have had meniscal tears like Russell Westbrook and there are also plenty of athletes that tore their meniscus that just had it removed entirely without getting it repaired so they could come back earlier.

I'm just curious about his knee condition(s) because I didn't see anything from a bunch of websites when I tried to research his injury history outside of a meniscal tear in his left knee.

Even my 75 year old aunt was able to dunk after her bilateral knee replacement surgery.

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[HerSports85]

Yeah what about the first half? Minutes are minutes for young players totally irrelevant that he finally was embarrassed into reducing Paytons minutes.




Good lord some of you are drowning in the MSG Kool Aid. He wasn't even a league average efficiency player. He put up counting stats playing berserk minutes on a 7 or 8 seed roster in a normal year. Legit MVP?

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Lillard
Kawhi
LeGM
AD
Young
Tatum
Mitchell
Booker
Harden
Healthy KD
Healthy Kyrie

are all a wide margin better than Randle. MVP caliber is insane.

First half I believe Payton played 22mpg. Still not starters minutes as you claimed. You didn't counter one example I mentioned about Thibs keeping the young guys down. RJ, Mitch, Quickley, the young guys that mattered, all played significant minutes and played well. Knox and Frank are barely NBA players.

And yes, Randle was clearly an MVP CALIBER player last year. I never said he was better than any of those guys.

How the F is he MVP caliber if he isn't better than any of these dudes? MVP of the Knicks ... sure. Instead of using the MVP hyperbole just say he's a good player.

Well he finished 8th in votes so technically, Randle was a MVP caliber player LAST YEAR regardless of your opinion. He was above “good”

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[F N 11]

Leon Rose reverse hoodwinked me. If it fails, we have tradeable expiring contracts except Evan that teams would want, All our young players, and our picks.

[Jay10]

Who knows, Thibs won't let them fail. He wants to beat the Tatum-less Celtics in December so bad his ass hurts. Knox and Frank don't look great but they were shooting 39-40% from 3 on the team the was routinely facing zone defense while the opposing coaches laughed. IQ, Obi got **** for minutes while Randle led the league in minutes and Thibs played the worst point guard in the league starter minutes. I get that what I think should happen won't happen with this fake win coach.

Payton played 18mpg in the second half. Definitely not starters minutes. Starting him was stupid, but he didn't play much at all.

Yeah what about the first half? Minutes are minutes for young players totally irrelevant that he finally was embarrassed into reducing Paytons minutes.

Randle led the league in minutes because he was a legit MVP caliber player last year.

Good lord some of you are drowning in the MSG Kool Aid. He wasn't even a league average efficiency player. He put up counting stats playing berserk minutes on a 7 or 8 seed roster in a normal year. Legit MVP?

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Lillard
Kawhi
LeGM
AD
Young
Tatum
Mitchell
Booker
Harden
Healthy KD
Healthy Kyrie

are all a wide margin better than Randle. MVP caliber is insane.

Why do you think Tom Thibodeau won Coach of the Year? It was because of what he was able to get out of a team of lesser talent compared to the other head coaches in the league.

Julius was "MVP caliber" because of what he was able to do with the lesser talent around him compared to the players on your list.

[DickGrayson]

Guys....we have Vildoza and Fournier too.

We are stacked af

PG - Walker/Rose/McBride
SG - Fournier/Quickley/Vildoza
SF - Barrett/Burks/Grimes
PF - Randle/Toppin/Knox
C - Robinson/Noel/Sims

Taj?

Taj would be the 3rd string C

Totally forgot we resigned him.

Yo ctorres mi bori from nykfanpage. Its PRGuy. I'm in luquillo rn training. Hope you been well.

[moocow007]

Payton played 18mpg in the second half. Definitely not starters minutes. Starting him was stupid, but he didn't play much at all.

Yeah what about the first half? Minutes are minutes for young players totally irrelevant that he finally was embarrassed into reducing Paytons minutes.

Randle led the league in minutes because he was a legit MVP caliber player last year.

Good lord some of you are drowning in the MSG Kool Aid. He wasn't even a league average efficiency player. He put up counting stats playing berserk minutes on a 7 or 8 seed roster in a normal year. Legit MVP?

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Lillard
Kawhi
LeGM
AD
Young
Tatum
Mitchell
Booker
Harden
Healthy KD
Healthy Kyrie

are all a wide margin better than Randle. MVP caliber is insane.

Why do you think Tom Thibodeau won Coach of the Year? It was because of what he was able to get out of a team of lesser talent compared to the other head coaches in the league.

Julius was "MVP caliber" because of what he was able to do with the lesser talent around him compared to the players on your list.

Yeah. Thibs absolutely got the most out of the least and deserved the COY.

[TwitterFingers]

This obviously makes our offseason look a lot better. The perimeter defense did take a hit and there are injury concerns, but this has potential to be a year in which we are competitive and maybe a tough first round out.

[F N 11]

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Kemba was about to come with Khris Middleton

[DaGawd]

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Kemba was about to come with Khris Middleton

I remember him saying that himself in an interview

[nedleeds]

Kind of odd to be calling people deluded sheep, feeling bad for them as clowns and flashing some X-rays that the guy will never walk again. What’s wrong with a little hope. A lot of athletes are moving towards stem cell treatment.

Because thoughts and prayers don't grow cartilage. Because Boston traded him for a wretched contract and had his medicals, they know what the poor guy is dealing with. His left knee is cooked. He's tried everything, I don't doubt his work ethic or competitive spirit. If you have bone bruises its a bad sign, and having less or no cartilage is just never (currently) something that gets better. I'd rather just play the young guards we drafted last year and this year. He'll play 25-30 minutes, get hurt and you'll all act surprised, meanwhile our young players will just drone away on the bench and end up not even getting extensions.

Name the last Knicks draft pick to sign a second contract here?

Charlie Watd!

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[KnixtapeH20]

Kind of odd to be calling people deluded sheep, feeling bad for them as clowns and flashing some X-rays that the guy will never walk again. What’s wrong with a little hope. A lot of athletes are moving towards stem cell treatment.

Because thoughts and prayers don't grow cartilage. Because Boston traded him for a wretched contract and had his medicals, they know what the poor guy is dealing with. His left knee is cooked. He's tried everything, I don't doubt his work ethic or competitive spirit. If you have bone bruises its a bad sign, and having less or no cartilage is just never (currently) something that gets better. I'd rather just play the young guards we drafted last year and this year. He'll play 25-30 minutes, get hurt and you'll all act surprised, meanwhile our young players will just drone away on the bench and end up not even getting extensions.

Name the last Knicks draft pick to sign a second contract here?

Charlie Watd!

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Chaaaaarrrrrrrllliiiiiiieeeeee WAAARRRRRRDDDDD

[nedleeds]

First half I believe Payton played 22mpg. Still not starters minutes as you claimed. You didn't counter one example I mentioned about Thibs keeping the young guys down. RJ, Mitch, Quickley, the young guys that mattered, all played significant minutes and played well. Knox and Frank are barely NBA players.

And yes, Randle was clearly an MVP CALIBER player last year. I never said he was better than any of those guys.

How the F is he MVP caliber if he isn't better than any of these dudes? MVP of the Knicks ... sure. Instead of using the MVP hyperbole just say he's a good player.

Just because he’s not better than those players doesn’t mean he didn’t have an MVP caliber season lol.

He finished 7th in MVP voting and 2nd Team ALL-NBA.

Thibs was coach of the year too!

[BKlutch]

Willing to bet Kemba gets injured before the season and won't play a single game

Now thats the kind of positive thinking we need around here! good job

You're kind of obligated to say that kind of shyt if your name is Gabage lo.

[F N 11]

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Kemba was about to come with Khris Middleton

I remember him saying that himself in an interview

I knew that but i didnt know who the failed 2nd guy was.

[BKlutch]

Willing to bet Kemba gets injured before the season and won't play a single game

⬇︎

[nedleeds]

Payton played 18mpg in the second half. Definitely not starters minutes. Starting him was stupid, but he didn't play much at all.

Yeah what about the first half? Minutes are minutes for young players totally irrelevant that he finally was embarrassed into reducing Paytons minutes.

Randle led the league in minutes because he was a legit MVP caliber player last year.

Good lord some of you are drowning in the MSG Kool Aid. He wasn't even a league average efficiency player. He put up counting stats playing berserk minutes on a 7 or 8 seed roster in a normal year. Legit MVP?

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Lillard
Kawhi
LeGM
AD
Young
Tatum
Mitchell
Booker
Harden
Healthy KD
Healthy Kyrie

are all a wide margin better than Randle. MVP caliber is insane.

Why do you think Tom Thibodeau won Coach of the Year?

Because of covid and he is coaching in New York.

Julius was "MVP caliber" because of what he was able to do with the lesser talent around him compared to the players on your list.

Rack up wins against regular season teams that packed it in or lost half their roster to covid all on below league average efficiency playing max minutes? Only to look like Tony Campell in the playoffs when a team tried. How about the simpler answer. He's not MVP caliber.