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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#121 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:01 pm

closg00 wrote:Honestly, I don’t remember much of his game, is he worth $20M per year?
He's a really good player, worth the $20M. If this deal falls through it's no big deal.

I think adding Dennis Smith for cheap is an even better alternative.

Tell Brooklyn go f themselves for trying to extort. If Bradley Beal gets all in his feelings because they can't acquire Spencer Dinwiddie; then trade Beal.

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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#122 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:16 pm

Wizards probably could of just got Kemba for vet min if they weren’t screwing around with this Dinwiddie fiasco.
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Post#124 » by 80sballboy » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:25 pm

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Post#125 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:27 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Wizards probably could of just got Kemba for vet min if they weren’t screwing around with this Dinwiddie fiasco.

It's doubtful that he is being signed by NY for just the vet minimum. If that were the case, OKC wouldn't have let him go in a buyout.

Kemba was owed $36M this year and $37M next year. Chances are, NY agreed on contract terms for his new contract, and that price was knocked off his old contract during buyout negotiations with OKC. So, if NY was willing to pay Kemba $12M a year, then OKC would have bought him out for $49M (the $73M he was owed over the next two years minus the $24M NY was going to pay him over the next two years).

The bottom line is that we don't yet know what Kemba is being paid, but it's a sure bet that it's more than the minimum. It's probably more than the MLE.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#126 » by Rafael122 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:30 pm

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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Wizards probably could of just got Kemba for vet min if they weren’t screwing around with this Dinwiddie fiasco.

It's doubtful that he is being signed by NY for just the vet minimum. If that were the case, OKC wouldn't have let him go in a buyout.

Kemba was owed $36M this year and $37M next year. Chances are, NY agreed on contract terms for his new contract, and that price was knocked off his old contract during buyout negotiations. So, if NY was willing to pay Kemba $12M a year, then OKC would have bought him out for $49M (the $73M he was owed over the next two years minus the $24 NY was going to pay him).

The bottom line is that we don't yet know what Kemba is being paid, but it's a sure bet that it's more than the minimum. It's probably more than the MLE.


$8 mil per.

I'm almost certain OKC is involved, I believe they're the team with the most cap space remaining, and have to reach the cap floor or else they pay the difference out to their players.

I'm guessing Jordan or Bertans gets moved there, and I think Shep does the favors of removing the protections on the 2023 pick.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#128 » by Frichuela » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:33 pm

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nate33 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Wizards probably could of just got Kemba for vet min if they weren’t screwing around with this Dinwiddie fiasco.

It's doubtful that he is being signed by NY for just the vet minimum. If that were the case, OKC wouldn't have let him go in a buyout.

Kemba was owed $36M this year and $37M next year. Chances are, NY agreed on contract terms for his new contract, and that price was knocked off his old contract during buyout negotiations. So, if NY was willing to pay Kemba $12M a year, then OKC would have bought him out for $49M (the $73M he was owed over the next two years minus the $24 NY was going to pay him).

The bottom line is that we don't yet know what Kemba is being paid, but it's a sure bet that it's more than the minimum. It's probably more than the MLE.


$8 mil per.

I'm almost certain OKC is involved, I believe they're the team with the most cap space remaining, and have to reach the cap floor or else they pay the difference out to their players.

I'm guessing Jordan or Bertans gets moved there, and I think Shep does the favors of removing the protections on the 2023 pick.


This would be very silly indeed. A bad job if Tommy does that...
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Post#129 » by 80sballboy » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:37 pm

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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#130 » by Rafael122 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:39 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:
nate33 wrote:It's doubtful that he is being signed by NY for just the vet minimum. If that were the case, OKC wouldn't have let him go in a buyout.

Kemba was owed $36M this year and $37M next year. Chances are, NY agreed on contract terms for his new contract, and that price was knocked off his old contract during buyout negotiations. So, if NY was willing to pay Kemba $12M a year, then OKC would have bought him out for $49M (the $73M he was owed over the next two years minus the $24 NY was going to pay him).

The bottom line is that we don't yet know what Kemba is being paid, but it's a sure bet that it's more than the minimum. It's probably more than the MLE.


$8 mil per.

I'm almost certain OKC is involved, I believe they're the team with the most cap space remaining, and have to reach the cap floor or else they pay the difference out to their players.

I'm guessing Jordan or Bertans gets moved there, and I think Shep does the favors of removing the protections on the 2023 pick.


This would be very silly indeed. A bad job if Tommy does that...


It's either that or trade a pick to Brooklyn and now you're out 2 first round picks.

OKC makes a ton of sense b/c they need to add salary and I reckon Bertans would have a lot more value around the league than Jordan so they could always trade him at the deadline for another pick.
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Post#131 » by Rafael122 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:47 pm

It's a lot of math. What Ernie would have done was attach 2 picks with Bertans and ship him out so he can get under the cap and not deal with this.
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Post#132 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:48 pm

Rafael122 wrote:It's a lot of math. What Ernie would have done was attach 2 picks with Bertans and ship him out so he can get under the cap and not deal with this.


Probably so he could go "scout" in Europe.
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Post#133 » by Frichuela » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:50 pm

Benjammin wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:It's a lot of math. What Ernie would have done was attach 2 picks with Bertans and ship him out so he can get under the cap and not deal with this.


Probably so he could go "scout" in Europe.


And the 2 picks surely 1st rounders and unprotected :banghead:

He really was a lazy operator...
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#134 » by payitforward » Wed Aug 4, 2021 8:53 pm

I'm starting to wish more than ever that we had managed to get McBride (& another prospect) instead of Todd. We can't afford to give away R1 picks (or R2 picks for that matter) to make this deal work.
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Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#135 » by Paradise » Wed Aug 4, 2021 9:27 pm

closg00 wrote:Honestly, I don’t remember much of his game, is he worth $20M per year?

Yes. In today’s market if a guy like Fournier commands 78M. He deserves 90.

He’s one of the best isolation scorers in the league prior to the injury and one of the best PnR lob passers in the league.

He’s a very good closer at the end of games but he does have moments of too much hero ball but I’m pretty sure he will have a breakout season next year considering he’s been healthy and he could’ve played in the Finals if we got past Milwaukee.

He’ll be a multi time all-star as a Wizard now that he’s back into a similar role that he had with LeVert and Russell.

The Nets would’ve easily kept him but he’s asking for a max deal while the Nets are preparing to extend Harden, Kyrie and KD which will total our luxury tax to over 500M alone. We’d be pushing unprecedented luxury tax numbers further by paying him $125M as a perennial 6th man.
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Post#140 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:00 pm

I don't like the sound of a "draft swap" to be honest. Hopefully, it's heavily protected.

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