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2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1121 » by PT416 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:27 pm

Washington finally wins a trade and Beal wants out.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1122 » by Mattatron » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:28 pm

Washington now better than the Raptors. Nets, Bucks, Heat, Sixers, Hawks, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, Wizards, Raptors, Hornets... Play In is the ultimate high.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1123 » by Bruin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:29 pm

Klaw22 wrote:Washington now better than the Raptors. Nets, Bucks, Heat, Sixers, Hawks, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, Wizards, Raptors, Hornets... Play In is the ultimate high.

Play in for what. Give me Paolo :nod:
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1124 » by Bruin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:39 pm

cancel the Baynes waiving. We need to tank hard

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1125 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:42 pm

PrinceAli wrote:cancel the Baynes waiving. We need to tank hard

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1126 » by Bruin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:44 pm

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PrinceAli wrote:cancel the Baynes waiving. We need to tank hard

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Bruh..lol damn

That’s such a dumb rule
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1127 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:46 pm

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Post#1128 » by Rebel INS » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:46 pm

Pericles wrote:However, to be fair and honest, missing out on free agency entirely, when you have prepared to have cap room to spend for years, in a year when there were several excellent targets at a position of need is an enormous blunder.


I think those plans for free agency and cap space went out the window the second Giannis resigned

I think people need to come to terms with the reality that we're probably closer to a 1-2 year 'soft rebuild' (something short of complete blow up/tank) than a 'kawhi trade' away situation where rounding out the roster with Jarrett Allen types makes sense
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1129 » by Zeno » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:54 pm

Getting a picks package from the Wiz would be much more valuable. I think they make a Chicago like Vuc trade to get Beal to sign his extension in October.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Post#1130 » by vulture » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:55 pm

Damn that Westbrook trade gave the wizards 5 decent players. They should be better this season if Beal stays.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1131 » by BillNyeBballGuy » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:01 pm

Rebel INS wrote:
Pericles wrote:However, to be fair and honest, missing out on free agency entirely, when you have prepared to have cap room to spend for years, in a year when there were several excellent targets at a position of need is an enormous blunder.


I think those plans for free agency and cap space went out the window the second Giannis resigned

I think people need to come to terms with the reality that we're probably closer to a 1-2 year 'soft rebuild' (something short of complete blow up/tank) than a 'kawhi trade' away situation where rounding out the roster with Jarrett Allen types makes sense

You should always have a plan B. Pretty short sighted and wreckless to not have a backup plan.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1132 » by Kinger95 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:01 pm

8 team trade

Toronto- McCollum & bagley
Sacramento-Siakam
Dallas- dragic&boucher
Miami-Lowry
Portland- porzingis
Golden state-Simmons
Washington-wiggins
Philadelphia-Beal


Plus 47 picks exchanged in the deal
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1133 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:02 pm

Kinger95 wrote:8 team trade

Toronto- McCollum & bagley
Sacramento-Siakam
Dallas- dragic&boucher
Miami-Lowry
Portland- porzingis
Golden state-Simmons
Washington-wiggins
Philadelphia-Beal


Plus 47 picks exchanged in the deal


this deal fkin sucks A**
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1134 » by Kinger95 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:07 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
Kinger95 wrote:8 team trade

Toronto- McCollum & bagley
Sacramento-Siakam
Dallas- dragic&boucher
Miami-Lowry
Portland- porzingis
Golden state-Simmons
Washington-wiggins
Philadelphia-Beal


Plus 47 picks exchanged in the deal


this deal fkin sucks A**


I thought the pick part at the bottom made it clear it was a joke but I guess not….
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1135 » by RaptorPride » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:07 pm

The more and more I look at it seems like Raptors might really be in tank mode next year. But then again our team has always been about development and internal growth since the DeMar Lowry days. Let's see what Fred, Pascal and OG add to their games this year.
DeMar and Lowry were always counted out by everyone to start the season. People always predicted us to be bottom of the east with them and we always out performed. Let's see if these guys can do the same.
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Post#1136 » by Rebel INS » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:09 pm

BillNyeBballGuy wrote:
Rebel INS wrote:
Pericles wrote:However, to be fair and honest, missing out on free agency entirely, when you have prepared to have cap room to spend for years, in a year when there were several excellent targets at a position of need is an enormous blunder.


I think those plans for free agency and cap space went out the window the second Giannis resigned

I think people need to come to terms with the reality that we're probably closer to a 1-2 year 'soft rebuild' (something short of complete blow up/tank) than a 'kawhi trade' away situation where rounding out the roster with Jarrett Allen types makes sense

You should always have a plan B. Pretty short sighted and wreckless to not have a backup plan.


Plan B is stealth tank, go into the season with a worse roster than last years and aim for another top 10 pick. Keep developing young cheap players into starters, reload the roster through development, and either hit on a superstar in the lotto or at least get us closer to that 'superstar trade away' tier

I think management is more realistic about the ceiling of this team than fans have been. Clearly they aren't making win now moves, and I don't think they see a path to contention without taking a step back to take a step forward. If that's the case, I much rather have another losing development season then chasing a 4th or 5th seed
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Post#1137 » by Rebel INS » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:11 pm

RaptorPride wrote:The more and more I look at it seems like Raptors might really be in tank mode next year. But then again our team has always been about development and internal growth since the DeMar Lowry days. Let's see what Fred, Pascal and OG add to their games this year.
DeMar and Lowry were always counted out by everyone to start the season. People always predicted us to be bottom of the east with them and we always out performed. Let's see if these guys can do the same.


I feel all signs point to tank as well, though I think if Masai learned anything from the aborted Lowry Knicks deal its that sometimes you gotta evaluate. I think they give them 20-30 games to see if they surprise and outperform expectations, but if not then Pascal and/or Fred get traded and they move on from this core and go full on rebuild
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1138 » by DG88 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:14 pm

RaptorPride wrote:The more and more I look at it seems like Raptors might really be in tank mode next year. But then again our team has always been about development and internal growth since the DeMar Lowry days. Let's see what Fred, Pascal and OG add to their games this year.
DeMar and Lowry were always counted out by everyone to start the season. People always predicted us to be bottom of the east with them and we always out performed. Let's see if these guys can do the same.

Been saying this since Lowry got traded to the Heat we're going to build through youth now. Our window to compete closed.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1139 » by BillNyeBballGuy » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:17 pm

Rebel INS wrote:
BillNyeBballGuy wrote:
Rebel INS wrote:
I think those plans for free agency and cap space went out the window the second Giannis resigned

I think people need to come to terms with the reality that we're probably closer to a 1-2 year 'soft rebuild' (something short of complete blow up/tank) than a 'kawhi trade' away situation where rounding out the roster with Jarrett Allen types makes sense

You should always have a plan B. Pretty short sighted and wreckless to not have a backup plan.


Plan B is stealth tank, go into the season with a worse roster than last years and aim for another top 10 pick. Keep developing young cheap players into starters, reload the roster through development, and either hit on a superstar in the lotto or at least get us closer to that 'superstar trade away' tier

I think management is more realistic about the ceiling of this team than fans have been. Clearly they aren't making win now moves, and I don't think they see a path to contention without taking a step back to take a step forward. If that's the case, I much rather have another losing development season then chasing a 4th or 5th seed

To me it looked like they stumbled into a tank rather than it being a pre meditated act. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1140 » by aligator » Wed Aug 4, 2021 11:18 pm

RaptorPride wrote:The more and more I look at it seems like Raptors might really be in tank mode next year. But then again our team has always been about development and internal growth since the DeMar Lowry days. Let's see what Fred, Pascal and OG add to their games this year.
DeMar and Lowry were always counted out by everyone to start the season. People always predicted us to be bottom of the east with them and we always out performed. Let's see if these guys can do the same.


No chance they are tanking.

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