Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie

80sballboy · Post #201 » by **80sballboy** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 12:42 am

And Neto is back according to Shams.

payitforward · Post #202 » by **payitforward** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 12:46 am

Don't see that so much the last couple of years. GMs are starting to see the value there. That's how it looks anyway....

prime1time · Post #203 » by **prime1time** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 12:56 am

nate33 wrote:
nate33 wrote:
prime1time wrote:A 2025 pick swap could end up burning us. But we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

I'm assuming it's a 2nd round pick swap, not a first round. That would be nuts.

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This is great news!

gambitx777 · Post #204 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:30 am

No first rounders burned. I'll take it and run with it.

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HardenGoat · Post #205 » by **HardenGoat** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:30 am

nate33 wrote:In hindsight, that Aaron Holiday acquisition is looking pretty bad. If we refrained from doing it, we would have had a TPE large enough to absorb all of Dinwiddie's salary, and thereby save whatever 2nd round pick we just sent to San Antonio.

So basically, Aaron Holiday, with just 1-year remaining on his contract, cost us Hutchison, 9 slots in the draft (from 22 to 31), and a future 2nd round pick.

Just here to congratulate you guys on Dinwiddie. I think Marks genuinely helped him get to where he wanted to go and play with Beal. I think you will be really happy with him. I highlighted above just to point out you can’t use a TPE to absorb a player under the S+T rules. Anyways I hope you guys enjoy your new team. You got a really good future and Westbrook returned some great players for that FRP it cost to the Rockets.

TGW · Post #206 » by **TGW** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:35 am

So John Wall and a protected FRP for Dinwiddie, Kuzma, KCP, Harrell, Holiday, and Todd. I’d say it’s about an even trade considering. Still hate the trade down to get Holiday and Todd…that was ass IMO.

J-Ves · Post #207 » by **J-Ves** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:48 am

TGW wrote:So John Wall and a protected FRP for Dinwiddie, Kuzma, KCP, Harrell, Holiday, and Todd. I’d say it’s about an even trade considering. Still hate the trade down to get Holiday and Todd…that was ass IMO.

I don't think its even. Wall was considered the most unmovable contract in the league and we end up with a number of useful expirings, Kuzma and a young prospect in Todd. I wasn't thrilled about the Kuzma addition but it seems like he actually has some trade value around the league. We might be able to get an expiring deal and a 2nd for him if the Wiz aren't interested in paying him for the next 3 years.

Overall its a miracle the Wiz don't have Wall on their payroll currently

J-Ves · Post #208 » by **J-Ves** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:51 am

One thing that I'm thankful for: Dinwiddie doesn't take long 2s. After years of pulling my hair out because Wall/Westbrook love the most inefficient shot in the game I can watch some modern basketball

CntOutSmrtCrazy · Post #209 » by **CntOutSmrtCrazy** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:02 am

TGW wrote:So John Wall and a protected FRP for Dinwiddie, Kuzma, KCP, Harrell, Holiday, and Todd. I’d say it’s about an even trade considering. Still hate the trade down to get Holiday and Todd…that was ass IMO.

In what world is that even? Just give credit where it is due. That doesn't even go into the flexibility with all the smaller pieces too.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #210 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:05 am

Ok ... So I'm glad Neto is coming back, the kid has heart.

If nothing else seems we have some depth...

Bryant, Kuzma, KCP, Beal, Dimwit
Gafford, Bertans, Rui, Kispert, Holiday
Harrell, Todd, Deni, Mathews, Neto

Gil, Hutchison, Homesly, Winston ???

Paradise · Post #211 » by **Paradise** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:15 am

J-Ves wrote:One thing that I'm thankful for: Dinwiddie doesn't take long 2s. After years of pulling my hair out because Wall/Westbrook love the most inefficient shot in the game I can watch some modern basketball

Actually, he had a history of hitting game winners with long 2s in 2019. He hit the game winner at the Lakers in the final game before the pandemic from the same spot.

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payitforward · Post #212 » by **payitforward** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:22 am

Winston will be 2 way. Presumably Homesley too? Hutchison went in the Dinwiddie deal -- wish him well.

Gil seems like the odd man out. But... it's early August. More moves may be coming....

80sballboy · Post #213 » by **80sballboy** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:23 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Ok ... So I'm glad Neto is coming back, the kid has heart.

If nothing else seems we have some depth...

Bryant, Kuzma, KCP, Beal, Dimwit
Gafford, Bertans, Rui, Kispert, Holiday
Harrell, Todd, Deni, Mathews, Neto

Gil, Hutchison, Homesly, Winston ???

Hutch is gone in the Dinwiddie multi-team deal.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #214 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:27 am

payitforward wrote:Winston will be 2 way. Presumably Homesley too? Hutchison went in the Dinwiddie deal -- wish him well.

Gil seems like the odd man out. But... it's early August. More moves may be coming....

Yeah thanks, just saw the Huchison inclusion.... I liked him, wish he got more run with us last year, thought he played well when given the chance.

Still gotta like our depth. Wes is going to have a challenge as a new Head Coach managing egos, and sorting out PT, rotations and roles with this roster.

DCZards · Post #215 » by **DCZards** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:37 am

Dinwiddie announces the trade…this is cool.

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Post #216 » by **nate33** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:52 am

HardenGoat wrote:
nate33 wrote:In hindsight, that Aaron Holiday acquisition is looking pretty bad. If we refrained from doing it, we would have had a TPE large enough to absorb all of Dinwiddie's salary, and thereby save whatever 2nd round pick we just sent to San Antonio.

So basically, Aaron Holiday, with just 1-year remaining on his contract, cost us Hutchison, 9 slots in the draft (from 22 to 31), and a future 2nd round pick.

Just here to congratulate you guys on Dinwiddie. I think Marks genuinely helped him get to where he wanted to go and play with Beal. I think you will be really happy with him. I highlighted above just to point out you can’t use a TPE to absorb a player under the S+T rules. Anyways I hope you guys enjoy your new team. You got a really good future and Westbrook returned some great players for that FRP it cost to the Rockets.

It's not really a TPE. It was a "virtual TPE". My point stands. With Aaron Holiday out of the transaction, there would have been room to absorb Dinwiddie into the Westbrook trade.

Post #217 » by **nate33** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 3:47 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Ok ... So I'm glad Neto is coming back, the kid has heart.

If nothing else seems we have some depth...

Bryant, Kuzma, KCP, Beal, Dimwit
Gafford, Bertans, Rui, Kispert, Holiday
Harrell, Todd, Deni, Mathews, Neto

Gil, Hutchison, Homesly, Winston ???

Mathews hasn't been signed yet.

AFM · Post #218 » by **AFM** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 4:13 am

Team has incredible depth. If somehow we could figure out how to play all 14 guys at once, we might be able to actually compete.

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #219 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 4:20 am

DCZards wrote:Dinwiddie announces the trade…this is cool.

Read on Twitter

Love this ! :wizard:

SUPERBALLMAN · Post #220 » by **SUPERBALLMAN** » Thu Aug 5, 2021 4:28 am

nate33 wrote:
SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Ok ... So I'm glad Neto is coming back, the kid has heart.

If nothing else seems we have some depth...

Bryant, Kuzma, KCP, Beal, Dimwit
Gafford, Bertans, Rui, Kispert, Holiday
Harrell, Todd, Deni, Mathews, Neto

Gil, Hutchison, Homesly, Winston ???

Mathews hasn't been signed yet.

Bryant, Kuzma, KCP, Beal, Dimwit
Gafford, Bertans, Rui, Kispert, Holiday
Harrell, Todd, Deni, Neto, Winston

Maybe Gil sticks while Bryant starts season on IR, then he's waived once Bryant is ready?