Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[Worst_to_First]

Hmmm so Kemba and Fournier had a net rating of +30.8 with Kemba saying they had instant chemistry. Nice.

[BugginOut]

Bro, Leon and Wes have eyes and ears everywhere. Big agents? Like who? Dame?
What splash last year and this year did you want?

Leon was head of CAA, he probably has every agent in the business on speed dial. Who is to say he didn’t work with Kemba’s agent to get him out of OKC, where Kemba obviously did not want to play? There was a lot that went on behind the scene before OKC decided to let Kemba go for free.

You buggin’?

Leon’s not allowed to have involvement in Kemba’s buyout. That would be tortious interference with an existing contractual relationship.

Yeah and NBA contracts aren’t discussed before the 6pm start time too

A lot goes on behind the scene. The Knicks obviously were involved/aware of Kemba’s buyout because they had a deal in place the exact time he was bought out.

[Big Chan]

I highly doubt Presti was even thinking of buying out Kemba but things changed fast when he realized Kemba would be willing to give up atleast 16 mill. I haven’t seen it reported yet but Kemba definitely gave up what he’s being paid by us, plus probably a little more. That NEVER happens with buyouts, guys almost always sign somewhere for the minimum and give up very little in the buyout. When presti realized he could get out of that contract at a huge discount he jumped.

The only way Presti knew this is if we straight up went to him and asked or if we called Kembas agent, i would assume it was the agent route.

[aggo]

Hmmm so Kemba and Fournier had a net rating of +30.8 with Kemba saying they had instant chemistry. Nice.

Lonzo Ball!

[N8isScofield]

Vildoza is not needed now .. send him + Knox to GS in S&T for Oubre?

Oubre is a clown. Whether it can contend or not, this roster is full of serious, basketball first dogs(except maybe Mitch). We don't need to ruin that homogeneity. Unless you're obliterating Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain to win us a ring, I do not want you to be better known for your swag than your game.

[HarthorneWingo]

Leon was head of CAA, he probably has every agent in the business on speed dial. Who is to say he didn’t work with Kemba’s agent to get him out of OKC, where Kemba obviously did not want to play? There was a lot that went on behind the scene before OKC decided to let Kemba go for free.

You buggin’?

Leon’s not allowed to have involvement in Kemba’s buyout. That would be tortious interference with an existing contractual relationship.

Yeah and NBA contracts aren’t discussed before the 6pm start time too

A lot goes on beyond the scene. The Knicks obviously were involved/aware of Kemba’s buyout because they had a deal in place the exact time he was bought out.

You're just speculating in order to give credit to Leon when you have no factual reason to believe that. How could Leon have conceivably influenced Kemba's buyout from OKC?

Btw, let me remind you that I'm the only person here who has had personal and direct confrontational business interaction with Leon that went on for over a year.

[nykinoz]

Terrific news, if this was announced first, then all the signings second, we would be giving the Knicks an A+ for the off season.

Leeeeggggooooooo!

Oz, I haven't seen you in like 12 years. How you been?

LTK! Same old same old, i'm here, post occasionally, read everyday.
Whats good?

[Appleshampoo]

You buggin’?

Leon’s not allowed to have involvement in Kemba’s buyout. That would be tortious interference with an existing contractual relationship.

Yeah and NBA contracts aren’t discussed before the 6pm start time too

A lot goes on beyond the scene. The Knicks obviously were involved/aware of Kemba’s buyout because they had a deal in place the exact time he was bought out.

You're just speculating in order to give credit to Leon when you have no factual reason to believe that. How could Leon have conceivably influenced Kemba's buyout from OKC?

Btw, let me remind you that I'm the only person here who has had personal and direct confrontational business interaction with Leon that went on for over a year.

It's a simple inference based off announcement of OKC buy out and Knicks signing at the same time. It's probably correct. There's back channel communication through agents. You have no reason to believe the business interaction would be illegal. It must happen all the time. Kemba wanted to be a Knick and nobody saw it coming. Leon Rose and Sam Presti probably had a better idea than you or I.

[Appleshampoo]

I highly doubt Presti was even thinking of buying out Kemba but things changed fast when he realized Kemba would be willing to give up atleast 16 mill. I haven’t seen it reported yet but Kemba definitely gave up what he’s being paid by us, plus probably a little more. That NEVER happens with buyouts, guys almost always sign somewhere for the minimum and give up very little in the buyout. When presti realized he could get out of that contract at a huge discount he jumped.

The only way Presti knew this is if we straight up went to him and asked or if we called Kembas agent, i would assume it was the agent route.

That's significant. The front office didn't luck into Kemba Walker if it was negotiated.

[bronxknicksfan1]

The Knicks did whatever they could to clear cap space to have as much available as possible. So Leon had to know that Kemba was going to be available. It was partially luck, but good business and dare I say...competent FO management.

[Fury]

Knicks aren’t lucky because they prepared for this moment. They had the cap space necessary to make the move.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I highly doubt Presti was even thinking of buying out Kemba but things changed fast when he realized Kemba would be willing to give up atleast 16 mill. I haven’t seen it reported yet but Kemba definitely gave up what he’s being paid by us, plus probably a little more. That NEVER happens with buyouts, guys almost always sign somewhere for the minimum and give up very little in the buyout. When presti realized he could get out of that contract at a huge discount he jumped.

The only way Presti knew this is if we straight up went to him and asked or if we called Kembas agent, i would assume it was the agent route.

That's significant. The front office didn't luck into Kemba Walker if it was negotiated.

we must have made it happen by having a solid amount of cap space to eat into the remaining OKC responsibility. they probably don't waive him if it's just to save vet min off of the deal when someone inevitably picks him up. the next team is under no obligation to pay more after a team has already decided to part ways with a player.

if the knicks convinced OKC to do the buyout by helping with the financial responsibility, that's hard.

[Appleshampoo]

I highly doubt Presti was even thinking of buying out Kemba but things changed fast when he realized Kemba would be willing to give up atleast 16 mill. I haven’t seen it reported yet but Kemba definitely gave up what he’s being paid by us, plus probably a little more. That NEVER happens with buyouts, guys almost always sign somewhere for the minimum and give up very little in the buyout. When presti realized he could get out of that contract at a huge discount he jumped.

The only way Presti knew this is if we straight up went to him and asked or if we called Kembas agent, i would assume it was the agent route.

That's significant. The front office didn't luck into Kemba Walker if it was negotiated.

we must have made it happen by having a solid amount of cap space to eat into the remaining OKC responsibility. they probably don't waive him if it's just to save vet min off of the deal when someone inevitably picks him up. the next team is under no obligation to pay more after a team has already decided to part ways with a player.

if the knicks convinced OKC to do the buyout by helping with the financial responsibility, that's hard.

It's rare if they do.

[HarthorneWingo]

Yeah and NBA contracts aren’t discussed before the 6pm start time too

A lot goes on beyond the scene. The Knicks obviously were involved/aware of Kemba’s buyout because they had a deal in place the exact time he was bought out.

You're just speculating in order to give credit to Leon when you have no factual reason to believe that. How could Leon have conceivably influenced Kemba's buyout from OKC?

Btw, let me remind you that I'm the only person here who has had personal and direct confrontational business interaction with Leon that went on for over a year.

It's a simple inference based off announcement of OKC buy out and Knicks signing at the same time. It's probably correct. There's back channel communication through agents. You have no reason to believe the business interaction would be illegal. It must happen all the time. Kemba wanted to be a Knick and nobody saw it coming. Leon Rose and Sam Presti probably had a better idea than you or I.

Sure. Kemba wanted to come to the Knicks. Do you really think Leon work some magic to make this happen? It was the most natural fit of any free agency move this off season.

Look, I’m happy with this off season so far. I think we’ve improved the team without making any of the dumb moves of the past, see e.g. McDyess, Melo, Bargnani. That said, Leon and WWW were advertised as having all the connections to bring in The Big Kahunas. Clearly, they are not that … yet.

[Appleshampoo]

You're just speculating in order to give credit to Leon when you have no factual reason to believe that. How could Leon have conceivably influenced Kemba's buyout from OKC?

Btw, let me remind you that I'm the only person here who has had personal and direct confrontational business interaction with Leon that went on for over a year.

It's a simple inference based off announcement of OKC buy out and Knicks signing at the same time. It's probably correct. There's back channel communication through agents. You have no reason to believe the business interaction would be illegal. It must happen all the time. Kemba wanted to be a Knick and nobody saw it coming. Leon Rose and Sam Presti probably had a better idea than you or I.

Sure. Kemba wanted to come to the Knicks. Do you really think Leon work some magic to make this happen? It was the most natural fit of any free agency move this off season.

Look, I’m happy with this off season so far. I think we’ve improved the team without making any of the dumb moves of the past, see e.g. McDyess, Melo, Bargnani. That said, Leon and WWW were advertised as having all the connections to bring in The Big Kahunas. Clearly, they are not that … yet.

It doesn't have to be magic. It's competence and crafty.

I don't care if Leon and WWW didn't convince flaky Kawhi to rehab with us $40m this season and d*** us around the next two. They didn't convince Beal or Lilliard to demand a trade in time for Knicks to deliver a James Harden ransom. They're not paying Demar DeRozan $30m next year. Good.

The connections must have a lot to do with knowing where to trade back to collect assets and still get players they like. A bad front office would be stuck paying Kemba's full contract next season. It's okay to give Leon Rose and the Knicks credit.

[Riot Randolph]

You're just speculating in order to give credit to Leon when you have no factual reason to believe that. How could Leon have conceivably influenced Kemba's buyout from OKC?

Btw, let me remind you that I'm the only person here who has had personal and direct confrontational business interaction with Leon that went on for over a year.

It's a simple inference based off announcement of OKC buy out and Knicks signing at the same time. It's probably correct. There's back channel communication through agents. You have no reason to believe the business interaction would be illegal. It must happen all the time. Kemba wanted to be a Knick and nobody saw it coming. Leon Rose and Sam Presti probably had a better idea than you or I.

Sure. Kemba wanted to come to the Knicks. Do you really think Leon work some magic to make this happen? It was the most natural fit of any free agency move this off season.

Look, I’m happy with this off season so far. I think we’ve improved the team without making any of the dumb moves of the past, see e.g. McDyess, Melo, Bargnani. That said, Leon and WWW were advertised as having all the connections to bring in The Big Kahunas. Clearly, they are not that … yet.

or maybe our team culture and system doesnt involve big kahunas.....system ball

[cgmw]

It's a simple inference based off announcement of OKC buy out and Knicks signing at the same time. It's probably correct. There's back channel communication through agents. You have no reason to believe the business interaction would be illegal. It must happen all the time. Kemba wanted to be a Knick and nobody saw it coming. Leon Rose and Sam Presti probably had a better idea than you or I.

Sure. Kemba wanted to come to the Knicks. Do you really think Leon work some magic to make this happen? It was the most natural fit of any free agency move this off season.

Look, I’m happy with this off season so far. I think we’ve improved the team without making any of the dumb moves of the past, see e.g. McDyess, Melo, Bargnani. That said, Leon and WWW were advertised as having all the connections to bring in The Big Kahunas. Clearly, they are not that … yet.

or maybe our team culture and system doesnt involve big kahunas.....system ball

Or maybe just maybe you’re both right and Leon is building “culture” as the necessary first step to “Make NY Cool Again” so he can pull off his signature CAA/WWW maneuver.

[FreeSpiritNY]

It’s funny if this happened earlier Kemba probably would have gotten 10-12 million a year I mean look at the free agent class.

I guess that trading of the first round pick really was for a reason.

People complaining we didn’t gut the team for a star.

Y’all are funny how much luck have we had when we did that.


This is the most complete team we’ve had in 20 years and your mad?
Your mad we upgraded our weaknesses with out locking ourself for 5 years your made we signed contracts that are trade able. Your mad we kept our rookies.


You know who is going to benefit from learning from rose and Kemba rj and quickley I can’t wait to see there new moves. I’m sure randel will take obi under his wing as well and then taj with Noel and Mitch bro we got leadership and shooting handle defense craftiness my god we are stacked

[NotDikembeSayNo]

Terrific news, if this was announced first, then all the signings second, we would be giving the Knicks an A+ for the off season.

Leeeeggggooooooo!

Oz, I haven't seen you in like 12 years. How you been?

LTK! Same old same old, i'm here, post occasionally, read everyday.
Whats good?

Well look at this love fest!

[BKlutch]

I think it’s awful how we traded all those assets for him and paid him such a huge contract! Typical Knicks!!!!!

I don't care either way. Anything is better than Payton, but people are shooting their loads like we're getting anything resembling Kemba Walkers prime.

He has chronic arthritis. Not a sore knee. He doesn't "keep getting hurt", he has no cartilage in his left knee.

Deluded sheep in here losing their minds and people from other boards are just laughing at our clowning over a guys swan song for a couple years at home. This is MSG ticket revenue material and nothing more. I feel bad for Kemba because he's a great teammate and a competitor but his knee just betrayed him, 4 surgeries on his left knee years of steroidal injections and now he's been trying stem cells to eek out another couple years.

If he could play he wouldn't be a Knick right now, he'd be on the 76ers or some competitive team. Nice story that he gets to play a few games at home, can't wait for the coming home redux.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

Do you enjoy sounding like a bot or something? Stop pushing a BS narrative no one actually believes. We're well aware Kemba isn't the same player he used to be. The important thing to note here is the knicks are *already* a competitive team. He isn't being brought in as the irrational savior or something. They also aren't paying him a ton of money so if his health ultimately fails they can move on. It's a low risk high reward move.

About time somebody called him out in this. He’s annoying but inconsequential