2021 Summer League

[rmfc]

Casey says Cade and Killian are 1A and 1B both will share PG duties and both will play off the ball as well... both will run pick and roll basketball to create for others. Hoping to play "position-less basketball" and not worry about labeling someone a PG, SG or SF.

Bey comments on Cade being able to play 3 positions, feels like he is a "vet" on the summer league team and he is trying to help everyone out. Says he hasn't normally been a vocal leader and has always been more of a lead by example guy.

Talk is cheap. I'd really like to see Casey show faith and confidence in youngsters (especially with Killian) and let them learn from their mistakes. He is quick to bench rookies/young players (seen consistently during his time with the Pistons). A lot of times it felt like a knee-jerk reaction fan was coaching the rookies last year.

[bstein14]

Cunningham's comments about Summer League reflected leadership and a desire to win. As I listened to him, I couldn't help but think of Green's completely opposite comments on draft night about how he's getting rookie of the year. Cade is awesome to listen to talk ball.

Darko talked about wanting to win over individual accomplishments in his pre-draft interview, and Carmelo said he would "rather be an all-star on a lottery team than 6th man on a championship team" .... May have partly led to us drafting Darko over Melo. And we all know how that turned out. I wouldn't put too much stock into a player coming in with a chip on their shoulder thinking they are the best player and should have been the #1 pick. I actually think Green is more likely to score 20+ PPG this year than Cade as it seems Cade is wanting to come in and fill a role rather than step in and be "the man" on day one. He might his first few seasons closer resemble those of Jason Tatum than many of of here would like.

[Tecmo]

Cunningham's comments about Summer League reflected leadership and a desire to win. As I listened to him, I couldn't help but think of Green's completely opposite comments on draft night about how he's getting rookie of the year. Cade is awesome to listen to talk ball.

Darko talked about wanting to win over individual accomplishments in his pre-draft interview, and Carmelo said he would "rather be an all-star on a lottery team than 6th man on a championship team" .... May have partly led to us drafting Darko over Melo. And we all know how that turned out. I wouldn't put too much stock into a player coming in with a chip on their shoulder thinking they are the best player and should have been the #1 pick. I actually think Green is more likely to score 20+ PPG this year than Cade as it seems Cade is wanting to come in and fill a role rather than step in and be "the man" on day one. He might his first few seasons closer resemble those of Jason Tatum than many of of here would like.

Eh, the Darko and Melo comparison is the past and not the same; it's anecdotal. All of these players are different people with different talents. I'm impressed with Cade in his interviews and hope his talent excels in the NBA.

[bstein14]

Cunningham's comments about Summer League reflected leadership and a desire to win. As I listened to him, I couldn't help but think of Green's completely opposite comments on draft night about how he's getting rookie of the year. Cade is awesome to listen to talk ball.

Darko talked about wanting to win over individual accomplishments in his pre-draft interview, and Carmelo said he would "rather be an all-star on a lottery team than 6th man on a championship team" .... May have partly led to us drafting Darko over Melo. And we all know how that turned out. I wouldn't put too much stock into a player coming in with a chip on their shoulder thinking they are the best player and should have been the #1 pick. I actually think Green is more likely to score 20+ PPG this year than Cade as it seems Cade is wanting to come in and fill a role rather than step in and be "the man" on day one. He might his first few seasons closer resemble those of Jason Tatum than many of of here would like.

Eh, the Darko and Melo comparison is the past and not the same; it's anecdotal. All of these players are different people with different talents. I'm impressed with Cade in his interviews and hope his talent excels in the NBA.

Cade definitely always says the right thing. He's very well coached and prepared for this entire experience of being a top draft pick in the NBA. He certainly seems mature beyond his age.

[buzzkilloton]

Darko talked about wanting to win over individual accomplishments in his pre-draft interview, and Carmelo said he would "rather be an all-star on a lottery team than 6th man on a championship team" .... May have partly led to us drafting Darko over Melo. And we all know how that turned out. I wouldn't put too much stock into a player coming in with a chip on their shoulder thinking they are the best player and should have been the #1 pick. I actually think Green is more likely to score 20+ PPG this year than Cade as it seems Cade is wanting to come in and fill a role rather than step in and be "the man" on day one. He might his first few seasons closer resemble those of Jason Tatum than many of of here would like.

Tatum played on a much better team then Cade as a rookie. 2017-18 Boston had Hayward/Horford/Kyrie/Morris/Smart/Brown. Cade is going to have a much higher usage then what Tatum had which is going to lead to better counting stats. On the same token Cade will be less efficient esp as a rookie as he learns the speed of the game plays better athletes etc. Green will likely score more ppg but I think Cade will have more all around numbers and is going to be the ROY fav. That said Green/Mobley/Suggs will all have a chance to be ROY and someone else could surprise us.

I'm ultra geeked for summer league. This is are most exciting summer league ever.

[7r5ur]

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[ComboGuardCity]

Sekou, bey, and Killian all playing. Alongside Cade, summer league championship or bust.

[mattao313]

If Cade is as good as projected and the lead shot creator he will still need a good secondary crearor. This is why he and Killian can be such a good fit together(if they develop to reach their potential). Even ball dominant player driven teams like the Mavericks are looking for another shot creator to lighten the load. I am hoping Cade and Killian can grow to fit that model.

Killian is the xfactor here if he comes back looking like last year then he's a lost cause but if he shows some development him and Cade can be special.

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Bingo! If Hayes lives up to his billing/potential, this team is going to go places really, really fast. It's easy to dismiss Hayes because of his rookie season, but we all saw glimpses and if he puts it together, he and Cade(of he as well is what he seems to be)will be a killer combo both offensively, and defensively.

The trajectory could be more upwards then any of us expect.

Yup Killian is the guy Im really hoping progreses he has the size and passing that can really be special his shooting and ball handling is something that needs to be better.

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[MotownMadness]

Our SL team in theory should be kicking ass at this point

[tmorgan]

Cade is such a good dude, man. So proud to have him on my favorite team. Sure hope he turns into a monster.

[BJK1]

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[tmorgan]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

[zeebneeb]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

[Uncle Mxy]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

I think COVID-19 screwed up Sekou and Hayes' development. Forklifting foreign teens to the NBA is tough enough without a pandemic. I'm hoping a more-normal season will do them good.

[ComboGuardCity]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

I think COVID-19 screwed up Sekou and Hayes' development. Forklifting foreign teens to the NBA is tough enough without a pandemic. I'm hoping a more-normal season will do them good.

Hayes isn’t really a “foreign” player

[Obe1ball]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

I think COVID-19 screwed up Sekou and Hayes' development. Forklifting foreign teens to the NBA is tough enough without a pandemic. I'm hoping a more-normal season will do them good.

Having The G-League team, right in their backyard, will make a huge difference for Sekou and all of the young guys.

[bstein14]

This summer league is likely the last look Weaver gets at Sekou before he has to decide if he is worth paying $5 million to for the 22-23 season or if they decide to decline his 4th year and let him become q FA. Sekou is playing for a lot of money this summer.

[Obe1ball]

This summer league is likely the last look Weaver gets at Sekou before he has to decide if he is worth paying $5 million to for the 22-23 season or if they decide to decline his 4th year and let him become q FA. Sekou is playing for a lot of money this summer.

What's the deadline for the QO? That's when he has until.

[Invictus88]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

So I know I've stated this before but let's recap Sekou's offseasons as a Pistons:

1. Drafted June 20, 2019 as a clear project. 18 years old.
2. Plays in summer league starting July 13th before that season but like all rookies really doesn't get much preparation before the season starts.
3. Largely ignored for much of the first half of the season until injuries forced him into action right after the New Year
4. Covid hits. Season ends early for the Pistons.
5. 2020 offseason spent trying to be with family and just figure out what to do in covid. No organized activities. No sustained development.
6. 2021 season - No G League. Sekou has difficulty finding sustained playing time; struggles at times and loses confidence but regains it slightly by the end of the season as he starts to do more at what he is naturally good at.

So he was a project coming into his first year and really hasn't had an offseason to work on skills.
He had one G League season again when he was very young but nothing after that.

He's still only 20 years old.

I'd agree with the Get your **** together pal comment if it was a polished player (not a project) who had all of the standard development assistance his first couple of years in the league. Neither is true in Sekou's case.

I won't start saying that until after this season.

[Piston Pete]

On Sekou: sounds like training camp BS. But I sure hope not,

Well, its Sekou's third year, so its put up, or shut up time.

If I'm being honest, I've grown tired of him. I mean I hope he puts its together, but I'm not hopeful. Flashes going into your second year is one thing, third year? Get your **** together pal.

So I know I've stated this before but let's recap Sekou's offseasons as a Pistons:

1. Drafted June 20, 2019 as a clear project. 18 years old.
2. Plays in summer league starting July 13th before that season but like all rookies really doesn't get much preparation before the season starts.
3. Largely ignored for much of the first half of the season until injuries forced him into action right after the New Year
4. Covid hits. Season ends early for the Pistons.
5. 2020 offseason spent trying to be with family and just figure out what to do in covid. No organized activities. No sustained development.
6. 2021 season - No G League. Sekou has difficulty finding sustained playing time; struggles at times and loses confidence but regains it slightly by the end of the season as he starts to do more at what he is naturally good at.

So he was a project coming into his first year and really hasn't had an offseason to work on skills.
He had one G League season again when he was very young but nothing after that.

He's still only 20 years old.

I'd agree with the Get your **** together pal comment if it was a polished player (not a project) who had all of the standard development assistance his first couple of years in the league. Neither is true in Sekou's case.

I won't start saying that until after this season.

Agreed.