Possible reasons for the Lowry S&T hold up (Powell, WCS from DAL for Dragic)

[StopitLeo]

The deal is Lowry for Dragic + other stuff. The deal is not Lowry for Dragic moved to a third team + other stuff.

Toronto would have known that one outcome was having to keep Dragic. Miami would have known that if Toronto couldn’t find a third team for Dragic they would have to send more compensation. Simple as that. Nothing has been botched or whatever else people are suggesting.

[c3luong]

The deal is Lowry for Dragic + other stuff. The deal is not Lowry for Dragic moved to a third team + other stuff.

Toronto would have known that one outcome was having to keep Dragic. Miami would have known that if Toronto couldn’t find a third team for Dragic they would have to send more compensation. Simple as that. Nothing has been botched or whatever else people are suggesting.

Thanks Masai, didn't know you posted on this forum.

[douggood]

Can this thing be wrapped up by tonight? When is the deadline

deals can start becoming official at aug 6th 12:01 am est

but this still might drag on for a day or 2 longer, unless raptors prefer achiuwa in summer league

I mean if Dallas really isn't playing ball on this...I dont know what the hold-up might be.

Unless they're trying to find another team to take Dragic? But I doubt it there are nay other teams out ther who are willing to play ball on this one

i am just saying there is no reason not to; outside of releasing a press statement/have an introductory press conference for Lowry.

if it takes a day or 2 longer it doesnt hurt miami; and for the raptors there is small opportunity to make the TPE from lowry bigger with a move. (according to hollinger; i am vell versed in CBA but wired tpe loopholes like this i am not)

there is not opportunity cost lost from either side by taking a day or 2 longer.

pelicans are one team i would think might play ball out of desperation, they have royally screwed up this offseason imo.

[StopitLeo]

The deal is Lowry for Dragic + other stuff. The deal is not Lowry for Dragic moved to a third team + other stuff.

Toronto would have known that one outcome was having to keep Dragic. Miami would have known that if Toronto couldn’t find a third team for Dragic they would have to send more compensation. Simple as that. Nothing has been botched or whatever else people are suggesting.

Thanks Masai, didn't know you posted on this forum.

If the deal was contingent on Dragic being moved it would have been reported as such.

[c3luong]

The deal is Lowry for Dragic + other stuff. The deal is not Lowry for Dragic moved to a third team + other stuff.

Toronto would have known that one outcome was having to keep Dragic. Miami would have known that if Toronto couldn’t find a third team for Dragic they would have to send more compensation. Simple as that. Nothing has been botched or whatever else people are suggesting.

Thanks Masai, didn't know you posted on this forum.

If the deal was contingent on Dragic being moved it would have been reported as such.

Please link which report you are referring to. I haven't seen any reporting confirming the full deal yet.

[ATLTimekeeper]

The deal is Lowry for Dragic + other stuff. The deal is not Lowry for Dragic moved to a third team + other stuff.

Toronto would have known that one outcome was having to keep Dragic. Miami would have known that if Toronto couldn’t find a third team for Dragic they would have to send more compensation. Simple as that. Nothing has been botched or whatever else people are suggesting.

Thanks Masai, didn't know you posted on this forum.

If the deal was contingent on Dragic being moved it would have been reported as such.

I doubt that other compensation is in play. What would stop Toronto from telling Dallas to turn down the deal so that they could get "preferred player" from Miami and then arrange a buyout?

[StopitLeo]

i am just saying there is no reason not to; outside of releasing a press statement/have an introductory press conference for Lowry.

if it takes a day or 2 longer it doesnt hurt miami; and for the raptors there is small opportunity to make the TPE from lowry bigger with a move. (according to hollinger; i am vell versed in CBA but wired tpe loopholes like this i am not)

there is not opportunity cost lost from either side by taking a day or 2 longer.

pelicans are one team i would think might play ball out of desperation, they have royally screwed up this offseason imo.

Didn’t NOP sign Devonte’ Graham to start at PG?

[c3luong]

deals can start becoming official at aug 6th 12:01 am est

but this still might drag on for a day or 2 longer, unless raptors prefer achiuwa in summer league

I mean if Dallas really isn't playing ball on this...I dont know what the hold-up might be.

Unless they're trying to find another team to take Dragic? But I doubt it there are nay other teams out ther who are willing to play ball on this one

i am just saying there is no reason not to; outside of releasing a press statement/have an introductory press conference for Lowry.

if it takes a day or 2 longer it doesnt hurt miami; and for the raptors there is small opportunity to make the TPE from lowry bigger with a move. (according to hollinger; i am vell versed in CBA but wired tpe loopholes like this i am not)

there is not opportunity cost lost from either side by taking a day or 2 longer.

pelicans are one team i would think might play ball out of desperation, they have royally screwed up this offseason imo.

Agreed, I think the real question is why would they announce a deal now? Might as well wait another day to see if another team wants to join in on the trade.

[OAKLEY_2]

Raps aren't desperate to move Dragic other than to say "we tried". Welcome to the Rapz K-Zee.

[c3luong]

I can't see a world where Dragic doesn't have value at the deadline for a contending team.

[Yeezus_]

just hold on to Dragic, I'm sure a contender will want his expiring contract AND he still can be a good spark off the bench.

[djsunyc]

I can't see a world where Dragic doesn't have value at the deadline for a contending team.

plot twist...we're the contending team!

[douggood]

just hold on to Dragic, I'm sure a contender will want his expiring contract AND he still can be a good spark off the bench.

LA clippers; beverly upgrade
beverly for dragic works salary wise.

how much of an upgrade is he and whats that worth to us/clippers.

[c3luong]

just hold on to Dragic, I'm sure a contender will want his expiring contract AND he still can be a good spark off the bench.

I'm not sure where his minutes will come from on the Raps.

[StopitLeo]

Thanks Masai, didn't know you posted on this forum.

If the deal was contingent on Dragic being moved it would have been reported as such.

I doubt that other compensation is in play. What would stop Toronto from telling Dallas to turn down the deal so that they could get "preferred player" from Miami and then arrange a buyout?

I’m thinking draft compensation, not a player.

[c3luong]

This whole contingency stuff seems convoluted to me. Like why not just check with the Mavs first to see what they are offering.

[Boardbreaker]

I can't see a world where Dragic doesn't have value at the deadline for a contending team.

Just have to keep him on the Kawhi load management plan and there'll be suitors at the deadline

[YelloC]

The good thing about the current makeup of the League with Superteams that are Superold or Superinjury prone is there will be a lot of teams trying to maximize their window which for many of these teams is about 3 years.
I’d be inclined to hold onto Dragic until the trade deadline when older point guards might be injured/resting.
Teams that didn’t trade for Lowry and disappointed in the playoffs might see Dragic as a similar piece and won’t want to miss out again.
Trade deadline trade probably makes it more likely that decent draft picks will be in play.

[phanman]

People keep saying Precious can't shoot, but have they watched him play? Heat fans have said Riley/Spoelstra forced him into a Bam role but he's shown to have a mid-ranger and a developing 3pt shot, and I've seen highlights from the Olympics where he makes a seldom 3. That at least that tells me there's something to work with there.

In terms of Dragic, I don't think anyone is refuting that he sucks or washed, it's just that real prize of the trade was picks/Achiuwa with a good side addition of Okpala. Dragic really doesn't move the needle for this team from hopeful playoff contender to serious ECF contender, and he's definitely not young enough to join the youth movement...unless he pulls something like this in training camp...

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Yeah.. everybody is refuting this statement man. He doesn't suck nor is washed. It was only a year ago that he was a major piece in helping the Heat reach the finals

[mihaic]

Come February we'll peddle Dragic to Philly instead of Lowry. Pressure would be on Morey, that would be epic. Dragic was not washed playing for Slovenia NT