Tokyo Olympic Basketball Tournament Discussion

[bravor]

Well, sad for Slovenia but it was a great game, props to France.

I guess the winner here Will be the NBA considering USA and France rosters.

So I hope Nando De Colo as MVP with a great game for Poirier and Heurtel ^^

Well I am Italian and I hope you guys lose as per tradition but I am coming to France for a couple weeks vacation on the road at the end of the month and It is not the first time so I am actually a big fan I guess beautiful beautiful country my friend, and best of luck!

dude we rooted for Italy against England in football, you can do better for us now

More seriously, the better the winner. But we surely have no pressure. We'll see

[CobraCommander]

Every time Luka gets tired he starts jacking up 3s. He took too many and missed often. I suppose it was important for him to have Slovenia medal, but he really needed to work on his conditioning this offseason and his FT shooting. Now it looks like he'll enter the season the same way he was last season, which is still a great player but a flawed one at that. Jokic decided to sit out for Serbia and has been working out all offseason and looks great. His priorities are in the right place, Luka's priorities are not.

Luka's priorities are on point. He is already a national hero at 22. Just past month he took Slovenia to first ever Olympics, took us to semifinals among Top 4 teams in the world, achieved 2nd most points at Olympics and 2nd most assists at Olympics in the history of games. I'm sure you think he should be doing cardio and throwing free throws in the gym.

I think as an objective Dallas fan you can see Luka could be better if his conditioning was better—— right?


That’s not an insult. Luka came in out of shape last year and he got off to a bad start. It may be diet or something but he fades. Not taking shots at him but honestly at 22 - it’s hard to imagine dudes not chugging mountain dews, Donuts and gaming on the ps5 like his contemporaries...because that’s what I did in early 20s and I wasn’t sitting on a 200mil contract. Imagine being so good that you ain’t even in your final form and you already Luka?

[Pumpkin17]

So I hope Nando De Colo as MVP with a great game for Poirier and Heurtel ^^

Well I am Italian and I hope you guys lose as per tradition but I am coming to France for a couple weeks vacation on the road at the end of the month and It is not the first time so I am actually a big fan I guess beautiful beautiful country my friend, and best of luck!

dude we rooted for Italy against England in football, you can do better for us now

More seriously, the better the winner. But we surely have no pressure. We'll see

I think you have a great chance man, France is truly a great team...I am envious

[wolfram]

Every time Luka gets tired he starts jacking up 3s. He took too many and missed often. I suppose it was important for him to have Slovenia medal, but he really needed to work on his conditioning this offseason and his FT shooting. Now it looks like he'll enter the season the same way he was last season, which is still a great player but a flawed one at that. Jokic decided to sit out for Serbia and has been working out all offseason and looks great. His priorities are in the right place, Luka's priorities are not.

Luka's priorities are on point. He is already a national hero at 22. Just past month he took Slovenia to first ever Olympics, took us to semifinals among Top 4 teams in the world, achieved 2nd most points at Olympics and 2nd most assists at Olympics in the history of games. I'm sure you think he should be doing cardio and throwing free throws in the gym.

I think as an objective Dallas fan you can see Luka could be better if his conditioning was better—— right?


That’s not an insult. Luka came in out of shape last year and he got off to a bad start. It may be diet or something but he fades. Not taking shots at him but honestly at 22 - it’s hard to imagine dudes not chugging mountain dews, Donuts and gaming on the ps5 like his contemporaries...because that’s what I did in early 20s and I wasn’t sitting on a 200mil contract. Imagine being so good that you ain’t even in your final form and you already Luka?

Luka is great, but ofcourse not perfect. We know he is not in top shape. He may be in top shape being a role player, but for him to carry such load, having so big usage rate, he needs to be in elite shape. He is not, ok? He should lose a couple kg's. I hope he decides one summer to be all-in on conditioning. But not this summer, I guess, he needs some rest. After the playoffs and Olympics.

But never, ever I want him to miss playing for Slovenia if he's healthy. It means a lot to us and to him also. Jokic turned down playing for Serbia a couple times now when he could play. He just doesn't care for his NT as much.

[CobraCommander]

Luka's priorities are on point. He is already a national hero at 22. Just past month he took Slovenia to first ever Olympics, took us to semifinals among Top 4 teams in the world, achieved 2nd most points at Olympics and 2nd most assists at Olympics in the history of games. I'm sure you think he should be doing cardio and throwing free throws in the gym.

I think as an objective Dallas fan you can see Luka could be better if his conditioning was better—— right?


That’s not an insult. Luka came in out of shape last year and he got off to a bad start. It may be diet or something but he fades. Not taking shots at him but honestly at 22 - it’s hard to imagine dudes not chugging mountain dews, Donuts and gaming on the ps5 like his contemporaries...because that’s what I did in early 20s and I wasn’t sitting on a 200mil contract. Imagine being so good that you ain’t even in your final form and you already Luka?

Luka is great, but ofcourse not perfect. We know he is not in top shape. He may be in top shape being a role player, but for him to carry such load, having so big usage rate, he needs to be in elite shape. He is not, ok? He should lose a couple kg's. I hope he decides one summer to be all-in on conditioning. But not this summer, I guess, he needs some rest. After the playoffs and Olympics.

But never, ever I want him to miss playing for Slovenia if he's healthy. It means a lot to us and to him also. Jokic turned down playing for Serbia a couple times now when he could play. He just doesn't care for his NT as much.

Agree 1000%.

It’s hard to talk about Luka without it sounding too critical considering he is 22 years old and has done so much so soon. So if the worse thing you can say about a basketball player is he should work on conditioning - I think that’s the ultimate compliment or the worse diss possible.

It’s like watching nearly prime harden (even with the gut) but Luka is 22...there are no real 22 year old comps.

I assume you are Slovenian saying “Us” so it has to feel good to see your guy ascend to the top of the sports world...

Honestly at 22 he has already over achieved by so much that winning bronze would be icing on a cake

[Wagonband]

People trying to tell Luka how he should train is completely moronic. The guy is literally breaking all the records and all the expectations at his age in the history of basketball, and people say that he has a "poor work ethic" and needs to "get in shape".

Given how good he is, he is probably doing the right things with his trainings. There's only so much hours one can train. Why put priority on conditioning when you are the best in the world in your age group and a top 5 NBA player. Clearly what he is doing works. People think he was born with this amount of talent. But talent is like 5% of your success, 95% is work.

Don't get me wrong, he should try and get in better shape in the future, but i'm pretty sure he did everything optimally so far given how good he is. I'd rather have an exhausted Luka that makes teams that have no bussiness being in the position they are in on the verge of winning against a Clippers team with a terrible Dallas roster and coming 1pt away of a finals of the Olympics with a 2mil people nation, than a Luka who's team gets blown out by 40 but he isn't tired when the game ends.

[a-French-Fan]

At 78-78 it seems that TLC had a block, not after the ball touched the board, but after it touched below on the slice. So what is the rule? (ball goes from the slice to the flour)

[Sedale Threatt]

At 78-78 it seems that TLC had a block, not after the ball touched the board, but after it touched below on the slice. So what is the rule? (ball goes from the slice to the flour)

That specific scenario doesn't seem to be listed in the FIBA rulebook, but it does say that goaltending no longer applies after "the ball no longer has the possibility to enter the basket." We've all seen shots that you could tell weren't going in on replay that were still called good via goaltending, but laying the ball into the bottom of the backboard is a completely different circumstance. IMO that was good judgement by the officials and the dude was absolutely out of his mind to complain about it at all, let alone to the point of getting a technical foul in the fourth quarter of a close game in the Olympic semis.

[a-French-Fan]

At 78-78 it seems that TLC had a block, not after the ball touched the board, but after it touched below on the slice. So what is the rule? (ball goes from the slice to the flour)

That specific scenario doesn't seem to be listed in the FIBA rulebook, but it does say that goaltending no longer applies after "the ball no longer has the possibility to enter the basket." We've all seen shots that you could tell weren't going in on replay that were still called good via goaltending, but laying the ball into the bottom of the backboard is a completely different circumstance. IMO that was good judgement by the officials and the dude was absolutely out of his mind to complain about it at all, let alone to the point of getting a technical foul in the fourth quarter of a close game in the Olympic semis.

When I see the french action then, (we clearly see and ear Fournier's shot hitting the rim, but refs didn't see or ear hit, De Colo had to take a bad shot and then there is a tech for France) I thought "****, it is the karma". But I was wrong, TLC did not a block and it was not a goal tanding

[a-French-Fan]

So I hope Nando De Colo as MVP with a great game for Poirier and Heurtel ^^

Well I am Italian and I hope you guys lose as per tradition but I am coming to France for a couple weeks vacation on the road at the end of the month and It is not the first time so I am actually a big fan I guess beautiful beautiful country my friend, and best of luck!

dude we rooted for Italy against England in football, you can do better for us now

More seriously, the better the winner. But we surely have no pressure. We'll see

About our legendary consideration of England:
"England, that colony which turned so badly"
George Clémenceau (free translation, sorry)

[DCasey91]

Umm have you seen the talent difference?

I have what Luka is doing right now as way harder then Durant.

If the US don’t get the gold comfortably it’s a massive choke job.

Without Durant, the talent difference is far far smaller.

The heck you smoking mang?

Which other Olympic teams have Tatum and Lavine waiting to check in on the bench?

Whoop dee doo they beat Patty and Joe.

Take KD out they still should win gold comfortably anything less is a chokejob.

[Statlanta]

Jokic decided to sit out for Serbia and has been working out all offseason and looks great. His priorities are in the right place, Luka's priorities are not.

Jokic is in his prime Doncic is not. Different situations. Maybe Jokic thinks the Nuggets can push for a title or that this is his last chance to get any awards for himself, while Luka hasn't had the glory of international competition and is young. Maybe this is what Doncic needs to get better, more reps to consider what his weaknesses are.

[Mamba81p]

Jokic decided to sit out for Serbia and has been working out all offseason and looks great. His priorities are in the right place, Luka's priorities are not.

Jokic is in his prime Doncic is not. Different situations. Maybe Jokic thinks the Nuggets can push for a title or that this is his last chance to get any awards for himself, while Luka hasn't had the glory of international competition and is young. Maybe this is what Doncic needs to get better, more reps to consider what his weaknesses are.

luka won 1 eurobasket. jokic didn't win anything on international level. I think he is like Scola: he really enjoys playing in these tournaments.

[art_tatum]

Dont matter, usa blowing out france or solvenia. Doncic lucky he doesnt have to get locked

[sixers4real]

Why do they have Gold medal game way ahead of Bronze medal game? Seems so weird.

[CjayC]

Why do they have Gold medal game way ahead of Bronze medal game? Seems so weird.

Yeah it's so anti-climatic.

[sixers4real]

Why do they have Gold medal game way ahead of Bronze medal game? Seems so weird.

Yeah it's so anti-climatic.

I wonder is that because of soccer and volleyball Gold medal schedule or what?
Or maybe because of USA time zone, so they Americans can watch Gold Medal game on late Friday evening.

[Babylove]

Why do they have Gold medal game way ahead of Bronze medal game? Seems so weird.

My guess (and I haven’t seen the actual times) is that the NBC wanted the gold medal match at a particular time for their broadcast and they worked the schedule around that. They seem to have had a huge influence on the schedule in a lot of sports this Olympics.

[Yuri36]

Every time Luka gets tired he starts jacking up 3s. He took too many and missed often. I suppose it was important for him to have Slovenia medal, but he really needed to work on his conditioning this offseason and his FT shooting. Now it looks like he'll enter the season the same way he was last season, which is still a great player but a flawed one at that. Jokic decided to sit out for Serbia and has been working out all offseason and looks great. His priorities are in the right place, Luka's priorities are not.

I didn't point numerous times for nothing that Luka's lack of confitionning would be a big problem in the future, much more than his lack of athleticism and jump

[Chuck Diesel]

Why do they have Gold medal game way ahead of Bronze medal game? Seems so weird.

Yeah it's so anti-climatic.

Are they gonna even do the three team medal ceremony pn the podium? Can’t imagine the gold & silver winners are going to want to wait around 48 more hours for the conclusion of the bronze game.