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So, if we don’t reach cap floor, the rest of the money is distributed to the players on the roster, which is… interesting. Each player could get a ~$1M pay bump…
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getrichordie wrote:So, if we don’t reach cap floor, the rest of the money is distributed to the players on the roster, which is… interesting. Each player could get a ~$1M pay bump…
Okay, I am dumb. I didn't realize that if you do not renounce a cap hold, that they count against the cap and will for a long time, unless it is either renounced by the team, or the player signs a new contract.
With that being said, I see now that they don't really have any impetus to sign anyone. I updated my cap sheet (link below) to reflect all of the cap holds, not just some, and we are an estimated $3.2M below the cap floor. Sign Jeremiah Robinson-Earl/negotiate a Josh Hall contract, and that's a wrap.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbWHTopePrJuCtEyPml3TPdbmpjbORdZ_LQs8CYqN_s/edit#gid=0
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getrichordie wrote:getrichordie wrote:So, if we don’t reach cap floor, the rest of the money is distributed to the players on the roster, which is… interesting. Each player could get a ~$1M pay bump…
Okay, I am dumb. I didn't realize that if you do not renounce a cap hold, that they count against the cap and will for a long time, unless it is either renounced by the team, or the player signs a new contract.
With that being said, I see now that they don't really have any impetus to sign anyone. I updated my cap sheet (link below) to reflect all of the cap holds, not just some, and we are an estimated $3.2M below the cap floor. Sign Jeremiah Robinson-Earl/negotiate a Josh Hall contract, and that's a wrap.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbWHTopePrJuCtEyPml3TPdbmpjbORdZ_LQs8CYqN_s/edit#gid=0
Salary floor is counted against salary paid on the roster at season end so we got until deadline to sign/trade someone . Much like we did with deck last season .
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spearsy23 wrote:What weird moves/ bad value has presti made? That seems more like a 'moves I didn't like' thing to me. Outside of the trade for JRE he's gotten pretty good value on everything.
Yeap . He hasn’t made moves that harms what we perceived to be his preferred direction this upcoming season.
The buyout of kemba notwithstanding (whether anything given back by kemba or paying all in full)
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Devilanche wrote:getrichordie wrote:getrichordie wrote:So, if we don’t reach cap floor, the rest of the money is distributed to the players on the roster, which is… interesting. Each player could get a ~$1M pay bump…
Okay, I am dumb. I didn't realize that if you do not renounce a cap hold, that they count against the cap and will for a long time, unless it is either renounced by the team, or the player signs a new contract.
With that being said, I see now that they don't really have any impetus to sign anyone. I updated my cap sheet (link below) to reflect all of the cap holds, not just some, and we are an estimated $3.2M below the cap floor. Sign Jeremiah Robinson-Earl/negotiate a Josh Hall contract, and that's a wrap.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbWHTopePrJuCtEyPml3TPdbmpjbORdZ_LQs8CYqN_s/edit#gid=0
Salary floor is counted against salary paid on the roster at season end so we got until deadline to sign/trade someone . Much like we did with deck last season .
Oh, I gotcha. Damn, I suck at this haha. I'm still learning, though...
~$21M to reach salary floor roughly... assuming all non-guaranteed contracts become guaranteed and assuming we sign Mann and Giddey to rookie scale contracts AND assuming an estimation of Kemba's buyout.
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At this point, I think you could get markkanen for the MLE or under and I think he has value at that price point. 3/30 is a tradeable contract.
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Dadouv47 wrote:Btw I'm still waiting for the moment that "doing the right thing" for players gonna help us (send CP3 where he wanted, Al back to Boston, buy out Kemba etc.). At least before this buy out players knew that by playing pretty well Presti would do the best thing for them, now it's a bad precedent and they may insist on buy outs.
I think the way Presti treats players has helped us. Russ and George re-signed. Nerlens came back on a second year for cheap. We don’t hear of players refusing to work out for us. There are benefits.
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ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Btw I'm still waiting for the moment that "doing the right thing" for players gonna help us (send CP3 where he wanted, Al back to Boston, buy out Kemba etc.). At least before this buy out players knew that by playing pretty well Presti would do the best thing for them, now it's a bad precedent and they may insist on buy outs.
I think the way Presti treats players has helped us. Russ and George re-signed. Nerlens came back on a second year for cheap. We don’t hear of players refusing to work out for us. There are benefits.
PG13 staying was before Presti decided to do the right thing with stars on a bad team. I don't think it's bad Presti trying to do the best for the players but not sure we got benefits from it. Think players not refusing to work out with us is because we have a great reputation in development and being great for players (credits to Presti and all staff for that)
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basically only thing left this offseason is to sign Schroeder, Reggie Jackson and Millsap so we can hurt the Clippers...
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Wouldn't surprise me if Presti just got a package of picks/prospect to take on unwanted contracts to help teams dodge the luxury tax or reduce their tax bill.
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
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getrichordie wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Presti just got a package of picks/prospect to take on unwanted contracts to help teams dodge the luxury tax or reduce their tax bill.
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
Think Brooklyn can only trade their 2028 FRP. Looney won't cost that much for the warriors and they usually don't pay a ton of value to get rid of contracts.
Already happy we got a FRP for Favors. Most teams don't give up FRPs to get rid of bad contracts
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Dadouv47 wrote:basically only thing left this offseason is to sign Schroeder, Reggie Jackson and Millsap so we can hurt the Clippers...
You only hurting yourself if you sign them
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Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:basically only thing left this offseason is to sign Schroeder, Reggie Jackson and Millsap so we can hurt the Clippers...
You only hurting yourself if you sign them
I know...it was a joke (a bad one I guess)
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getrichordie wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Presti just got a package of picks/prospect to take on unwanted contracts to help teams dodge the luxury tax or reduce their tax bill.
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
Don’t think Jordan will be traded if this is true.
https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-spencer-dinwiddie-20210804-pfmyuk2vmvafdi2n2a7dwzonue-story.html
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Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:basically only thing left this offseason is to sign Schroeder, Reggie Jackson and Millsap so we can hurt the Clippers...
You only hurting yourself if you sign them
I know...it was a joke (a bad one I guess)
Oh.! I’m still waiting for the kemba buyout amount and the Adams TPE
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Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:You only hurting yourself if you sign them
I know...it was a joke (a bad one I guess)
Oh.! I’m still waiting for the kemba buyout amount and the Adams TPE
Didn't watch all teams but hard time to see how we can take advantage of the Adams TPE. Probably gonna use at least one of the 10 millions TPE though
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Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
I know...it was a joke (a bad one I guess)
Oh.! I’m still waiting for the kemba buyout amount and the Adams TPE
Didn't watch all teams but hard time to see how we can take advantage of the Adams TPE. Probably gonna use at least one of the 10 millions TPE though
Don’t think there’s anyone else left worth signing for a team to consider dumping salary to us but since it haven’t expire might as well hope .
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Dadouv47 wrote:getrichordie wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Presti just got a package of picks/prospect to take on unwanted contracts to help teams dodge the luxury tax or reduce their tax bill.
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
Think Brooklyn can only trade their 2028 FRP. Looney won't cost that much for the warriors and they usually don't pay a ton of value to get rid of contracts.
Already happy we got a FRP for Favors. Most teams don't give up FRPs to get rid of bad contracts
I think I read that for the Warriors, every $2.1M in salary cost them $12M due to luxury tax. That’s not cheap. That means that if they are able to give him to someone who has cap room, they would save roughly $30M.
Also, I this Schroder coming back crossed my mind and seeing other people thinking the same thing makes me think it could happen.
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1547850/
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getrichordie wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:getrichordie wrote:Wouldn't surprise me if Presti just got a package of picks/prospect to take on unwanted contracts to help teams dodge the luxury tax or reduce their tax bill.
DeAndre Jordan and Kevon Looney come to mind...
Think Brooklyn can only trade their 2028 FRP. Looney won't cost that much for the warriors and they usually don't pay a ton of value to get rid of contracts.
Already happy we got a FRP for Favors. Most teams don't give up FRPs to get rid of bad contracts
I think I read that for the Warriors, every $2.1M in salary cost them $12M due to luxury tax. That’s not cheap. That means that if they are able to give him to someone who has cap room, they would save roughly $30M.
Also, I this Schroder coming back crossed my mind and seeing other people thinking the same thing makes me think it could happen.
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1547850/
Then we had 0 reason to buy out Kemba. Schroeder makes no sense in OKC. Ball hog that wants to play as much as possible to rehab his value. Makes no sense for him or for the Thunder.
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