Free Agency Thread

[SO_MONEY]

Why Hart? What position is he going to play? It's a waste of money.

Right now it needs to be a PG or a PF/C. If you can't trade or sign anyone worth a damn then sit on the money and watch the waiver wire and summer leagues.

You sign the best assets you can. He can play 2 or 3 off the bench. It is not a waste of money, a waste of money is being ridgid signing only forced positional fits while only getting production value and not trade value as well.

So Hart is better than Edwards? Beasley? McDaniels? Nowell? Okoge? Prince? Because I would say, except for Okoge, the rest are better and Okoge is a push.

I have no issue with adding talent, but I will not add it when there is a surplus of equal or higher talent at that position already and a massive hole at several others

I don't know what to say to this. Hart probably has more value than most anything we can add and he is far more valuable than Okogie. He also will have opportunity for plenty of playing time... That is the benefit of positional flexibility. More importantly he will be worth something in trade any big we add most likely won't be.

[Norseman79]

You sign the best assets you can. He can play 2 or 3 off the bench. It is not a waste of money, a waste of money is being ridgid signing only forced positional fits while only getting production value and not trade value as well.

So Hart is better than Edwards? Beasley? McDaniels? Nowell? Okoge? Prince? Because I would say, except for Okoge, the rest are better and Okoge is a push.

I have no issue with adding talent, but I will not add it when there is a surplus of equal or higher talent at that position already and a massive hole at several others

I don't know what to say to this. Hart probably has more value than most anything we can add and he is far more valuable than Okogie. He also will have opportunity for plenty of playing time... That is the benefit of positional flexibility. More importantly he will be worth something in trade any big we add most likely won't be.

Do I think he may be one of the better bargain fa available, yes. Do I like his fit, no. He is not the defender Okoge is, but is better on offense. I call them a wash.

[wolves_89]

I like Josh Hart, but there is just no place for him to get minutes. Unless the Wolves off-load multiple wings, they are set at SG/SF and I don't see Hart breaking into the rotation. Depth is nice, but when there is a gaping hole at PF I can't justify using limited money on wing.

[SO_MONEY]

I like Josh Hart, but there is just no place for him to get minutes. Unless the Wolves off-load multiple wings, they are set at SG/SF and I don't see Hart breaking into the rotation. Depth is nice, but when there is a gaping hole at PF I can't justify using limited money on wing.

Hart is probably our backup SF so I disagree with your assessment.

[TheProdigy]

Let's sign DJ Wilson to a 1 year minimum deal. He's worth taking a flyer on.

[Note30]

I like Josh Hart, but there is just no place for him to get minutes. Unless the Wolves off-load multiple wings, they are set at SG/SF and I don't see Hart breaking into the rotation. Depth is nice, but when there is a gaping hole at PF I can't justify using limited money on wing.

Hart is probably our backup SF so I disagree with your assessment.

We have Ant, Daniels, Prince, Okogie, Bolmaro at that spot.

Even if Ant plays exclusively the 2 and Beasley only plays 18 minutes a game, you still have 3 people backing up that position.

Don't get me wrong Hart is the way go, but we'd need to get some offloaded talent.

[SO_MONEY]

I like Josh Hart, but there is just no place for him to get minutes. Unless the Wolves off-load multiple wings, they are set at SG/SF and I don't see Hart breaking into the rotation. Depth is nice, but when there is a gaping hole at PF I can't justify using limited money on wing.

Hart is probably our backup SF so I disagree with your assessment.

We have Ant, Daniels, Prince, Okogie, Bolmaro at that spot.

Even if Ant plays exclusively the 2 and Beasley only plays 18 minutes a game, you still have 3 people backing up that position.

Don't get me wrong Hart is the way go, but we'd need to get some offloaded talent.

Like I said backup SF.

[Note30]

Hart is probably our backup SF so I disagree with your assessment.

We have Ant, Daniels, Prince, Okogie, Bolmaro at that spot.

Even if Ant plays exclusively the 2 and Beasley only plays 18 minutes a game, you still have 3 people backing up that position.

Sure so long as we move Prince and Okogie

Don't get me wrong Hart is the way go, but we'd need to get some offloaded talent.

Like I said backup SF.

[slick21]

Millsap would be a good signing (at the right price). There was an interview I listened to towards the end of the season with Vanderbilt where he talked about his time with DEN and what a valuable influence Millsap had on him.

Sign Millsap, Vando, and JMac. Keep scouring the trade market with teams looking for expiring deals (Prince, Layman, Culver, Juancho, perhaps Okogie).

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[Nick K]

Pass in Milsap. Hart would be a good add, there are a couple/few of wings we could go after in a S&T, but I have Winslow and basically any prospect including Vando ahead of Milsap at this point.


Find value where we can, shed what we don't want if we can, accumulate desirable things that can be used to address needs.

Why pass on Millsap?? Strong defensive rebounding veteran presence. He could be good for a year or two at our budget.

Because I don't think he is the most attractive piece to other teams we could sign. And we need assets to address PF long-term.

Who cares if he's attractive to other teams? We need a guy to do what he does well and a veteran at that. We have him here for a year or two while we develop who we have, Vando and Knight. We can always move off him if someone comes available.

[Calinks]

I think this means that the Spurs were lying? If no, someone please translate this into old guy for me.

Aging guy here who still slums it with the kids online. My old eyes thought those were water droplets in the forum post so I thought it was a reference to "Water is wet" as in "duh". Then I went to the actual tweet and saw they were hats. I then highlited the hat emoticon and saw it was a baseball cap. Having recently been hit with a deluge of the slang term "Cap" in the last 6 months I have previously already inferred and confirmed through research that cap essential means lie. No cap=No Lie=No Joke, etc.

So translated literally the agent is saying this info is false. However, the agent may be an out-of-touch old guy and thought he was saying "No cap: which would imply the tweet is accurate. Its best to assume the agent knows what he is doing and the former meaning is what is intended.

The fact we need a translation for this at all is beyond moronic.

I legitimately worry about humanity sometimes.

I'm sure when you were a teen/early 20's there were some phrases you said or knew, if not you, your generation, that some older fold didn't know. I know that was the case for me. When I was a little kid there were terms like "Def" "Radical" "Raw" Etc. that a lof of people were scratching their head overs, it's just the way of the world.

[SO_MONEY]

Why pass on Millsap?? Strong defensive rebounding veteran presence. He could be good for a year or two at our budget.

Because I don't think he is the most attractive piece to other teams we could sign. And we need assets to address PF long-term.

Who cares if he's attractive to other teams? We need a guy to do what he does well and a veteran at that. We have him here for a year or two while we develop who we have, Vando and Knight. We can always move off him if someone comes available.

You sign the most valuable piece you can. You don't sign filler that doesn't have value because you might not be able to move it. Accumulate assets, move said assets to address needs.

[wolves_89]

I don't expect the Vanderbilt RFA situation to be resolved until Minnesota makes some sort of other move. With the Wolves having $8M (or $10M if Bolmaro doesn't sign) under the luxury tax line teams are unlikely to give him an offer sheet knowing that any remotely reasonable offer will be matched. Unless Rosas makes a trade that puts the team close to the luxury tax line, I expect Vanderbilt to remain a free agent.

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[Folklore]

Because I don't think he is the most attractive piece to other teams we could sign. And we need assets to address PF long-term.

Who cares if he's attractive to other teams? We need a guy to do what he does well and a veteran at that. We have him here for a year or two while we develop who we have, Vando and Knight. We can always move off him if someone comes available.

You sign the most valuable piece you can. You don't sign filler that doesn't have value because you might not be able to move it. Accumulate assets, move said assets to address needs.

Stop... just stop. Someone get this guy out of here.

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[KGdaBom]

Millsap would be a good signing (at the right price). There was an interview I listened to towards the end of the season with Vanderbilt where he talked about his time with DEN and what a valuable influence Millsap had on him.

Sign Millsap, Vando, and JMac. Keep scouring the trade market with teams looking for expiring deals (Prince, Layman, Culver, Juancho, perhaps Okogie).

I'm trying to think of a player who would not be a good signing at the right price? If it's not a good signing then the price isn't right.