[Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill)

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[Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#1 » by kalenclayton » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:55 pm

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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#2 » by bondom34 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:56 pm

I'm not totally familiar with how Merrill looked but at first glance, nice for the Bucks. Allen was pretty solid last year.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#3 » by VCfor3 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:56 pm

Getting back the 2nds we used to move up for Santi.

EDIT: For MIL, I think this a great pickup for the price. Allen was a low end starter on our team last year. Getting him for two 2nds is nice and he'll be a RFA next offseason if they want to keep him long term.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:56 pm

Bucks getting work done. Love this for them. Memphis deals some depth for futures I guess.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#5 » by Mavrelous » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:57 pm

Great move for the Bucks, Allen is a headcase, but he's talented and can fill for the Forbes role, even better than him.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#6 » by psman2 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:57 pm

VCfor3 wrote:Getting back the 2nds we used to move up for Santi.


Is this confirmed? I hate the deal if it is for Bucks 2nds.

It's Bane Time....
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#7 » by VCfor3 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 6:59 pm

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VCfor3 wrote:Getting back the 2nds we used to move up for Santi.


Is this confirmed? I hate the deal if it is for Bucks 2nds.

Its Bane Time....

Oh it'll be MIL 2nds. I just meant getting two future 2nds in order to replace two future 2nds we are sending out in a general sense.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#8 » by psman2 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:02 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
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VCfor3 wrote:Getting back the 2nds we used to move up for Santi.


Is this confirmed? I hate the deal if it is for Bucks 2nds.

Its Bane Time....

Oh it'll be MIL 2nds. I just meant getting two future 2nds in order to replace two future 2nds we are sending out in a general sense.


Ok...I wonder if we traded Allen into an exception they had? And Merrill into one of our exceptions and he is still unGTD. Be nice to be able to give him a look and waive him and save the whole cap space.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#9 » by VCfor3 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:04 pm

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Is this confirmed? I hate the deal if it is for Bucks 2nds.

Its Bane Time....

Oh it'll be MIL 2nds. I just meant getting two future 2nds in order to replace two future 2nds we are sending out in a general sense.


Ok...I wonder if we traded Allen into an exception they had? And Merrill into one of our exceptions and he is still unGTD. Be nice to be able to give him a look and waive him and save the whole cap space.

Yeah he is going into the DJ Augustin TPE per Smitty. And we now have a little extra cap space if we wanted to use it on someone.

Also I just looked and there are a couple non-MIL 2nds that could be part of the trade. Better of IND/MIA 2026 2nd for example.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#10 » by loserX » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:04 pm

Makes sense. Allen is the better win-now player, and as mentioned makes a good Forbes replacement.

For Memphis, Allen is also expiring, and with their depth there's a good chance he wouldn't have been brought back next year anyway, so get some keeper assets albeit minor ones.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#11 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:12 pm

Huge for the Bucks! Love this pick up and hes going to fit right in.

Lopez/Portis
Giannis/Semi
Middleton/Pat/Hood
DDV/Allen
Jrue/Hill

This team has legit depth now.. And now they don't need to rely on Hood at all, anything he gives is an added bonus.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#12 » by babyjax13 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:14 pm

Allen is a defensive sieve, but he can get hot, and you could do worse for a 10th or 11th man. Like it for Memphis, too. Allen should not have been taking minutes from Melton, and now he won't.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#13 » by E S V L » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:17 pm

The Bucks did great. My congrats. I wish nothing Allen but best of luck! He was great as a Grizzly.

From the Grizzlies perspective, I am not happy with the return because he is a better player than 2 2nds, but I believe that is the market. Let it be then. We need to move forward.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#14 » by psman2 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:17 pm

VCfor3 wrote:
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VCfor3 wrote:Oh it'll be MIL 2nds. I just meant getting two future 2nds in order to replace two future 2nds we are sending out in a general sense.


Ok...I wonder if we traded Allen into an exception they had? And Merrill into one of our exceptions and he is still unGTD. Be nice to be able to give him a look and waive him and save the whole cap space.

Yeah he is going into the DJ Augustin TPE per Smitty. And we now have a little extra cap space if we wanted to use it on someone.

Also I just looked and there are a couple non-MIL 2nds that could be part of the trade. Better of IND/MIA 2026 2nd for example.


If we can waive Merrill as an UNGTD then I have us 5 million below the cap with the draft picks holds. That could be wiggle room needed to do a trade/SNT maybe using Jones or Bledsoe.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#15 » by E S V L » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm

Re Merrill, "only $500,000 guaranteed in 2021/22, HoopsHype has learned. Contract becomes fully guaranteed (1,517,981) if not waived by August 6, 2021."
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#16 » by LightTheBeam » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:21 pm

E S V L wrote:The Bucks did great. My congrats. I wish nothing Allen but best of luck! He was great as a Grizzly.

From the Memphis perspective, I am not happy with the return, but I believe that is the market.


You guys have too much depth man. They had to make some moves to keep everyone happy. What are there like 12-13 rotation level players on that team?
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#17 » by psman2 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:25 pm

E S V L wrote:Re Merrill, "only $500,000 guaranteed in 2021/22, HoopsHype has learned. Contract becomes fully guaranteed (1,517,981) if not waived by August 6, 2021."


I think he is waived then. So 4.5m under and the room exception too.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#18 » by E S V L » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:30 pm

psman2 wrote:
E S V L wrote:Re Merrill, "only $500,000 guaranteed in 2021/22, HoopsHype has learned. Contract becomes fully guaranteed (1,517,981) if not waived by August 6, 2021."


I think he is waived then. So 4.5m under and the room exception too.


He should be waived. We don`t need him.
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#19 » by E S V L » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:32 pm

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E S V L wrote:The Bucks did great. My congrats. I wish nothing Allen but best of luck! He was great as a Grizzly.

From the Memphis perspective, I am not happy with the return, but I believe that is the market.


You guys have too much depth man. They had to make some moves to keep everyone happy. What are there like 12-13 rotation level players on that team?


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Melton - Bane
Brooks - Konchar - Ziaire
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Re: [Woj] MEM - MIL (Allen for Merrill) 

Post#20 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Aug 6, 2021 7:46 pm

Love this for MIL. Allen obviously isnt replacing Tucker but he brings some of the dog that PJ did.

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